Re: SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/10/2017 06:33 PM, songbird wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > ... >> I've just done: >> apt-get update >> apt-get upgrade >> apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> I no longer see the problem described in this thread. >> [just a heads up for those who haven't recently done update etc] > >

Re: SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > I've just done: > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > apt-get dist-upgrade > > I no longer see the problem described in this thread. > [just a heads up for those who haven't recently done update etc] correct, updated versions of some MATE pieces were

Re: SOLVED - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/10/2017 03:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/18/2017 11:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has >> ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot >> the problem. The salient information is: OS is

SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/18/2017 11:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot the problem. The salient information is: OS is fully updated Testing, MATE desktop environment. I have

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 08:28:52AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:55:28PM -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > > For me, though, the important aspect is will sxiv change the desktop > > background like feh will? > > If all you

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:55:28PM -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > For me, though, the important aspect is will sxiv change the desktop > background like feh will? If all you want is to set the root window (desktop/background) image, "xsetbg" from the xloadimage package will do nicely. If you

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-30 Thread Brian
On Tue 30 May 2017 at 04:15:10 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/29/2017 10:55 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > >On 05/29/2017 01:19 PM, Brian wrote: > >> > >>There are legitimate concerns about aspects of feh's behaviour, not > >>sufficient as yet to prevent my recommending it, but the topic

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/29/2017 10:55 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/29/2017 01:19 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 May 2017 at 19:13:25 +0100, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 May 2017 at 09:52:45 -0500, David Wright wrote: On Sat 27 May 2017 at 12:32:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500,

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-29 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/29/2017 01:19 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 May 2017 at 19:13:25 +0100, Brian wrote: > >> On Sat 27 May 2017 at 09:52:45 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> >>> On Sat 27 May 2017 at 12:32:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > And

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-29 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 May 2017 at 19:13:25 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 27 May 2017 at 09:52:45 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 27 May 2017 at 12:32:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > > > > And actually, the --no-xinerama flag is not

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 May 2017 at 09:52:45 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 27 May 2017 at 12:32:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > > And actually, the --no-xinerama flag is not needed, at least on my > > > system. I use feh --bg-fill ...

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-27 Thread Curt
On 2017-05-27, David Wright wrote: > > BTW I checked the error message I mentioned earlier. Feh itself > emits the incorrect error message for PNG files, but the correct > message is emitted by the spawned jpegtran program for JPGs. > Please file a wish-list bug for a

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-27 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 May 2017 at 12:32:06 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > On 05/25/2017 05:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > If I had read the man page more slowly that using the menu to set the > > > image as wallpaper was unnecessary.

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-27 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 May 2017 at 17:57:40 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > On 05/25/2017 05:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > If I had read the man page more slowly that using the menu to set the > > image as wallpaper was unnecessary. Use: > > feh --no-xinerama --bg-fill > >

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/25/2017 06:27 AM, RavenLX wrote: > On 05/21/2017 05:40 PM, David Christensen wrote: >> As I understand it: >> >> * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision >> -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g. >> icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/26/2017 09:48 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> The man page >>> _mentions_ setting wallpaper in passing my noting "Use --no-xinerama to >>>

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/25/2017 06:08 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 25-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: [snip] >> The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). >> The workaround is

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/25/2017 05:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >>> [snip] > The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). > >>> The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/26/2017 09:48 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: The man page _mentions_ setting wallpaper in passing my noting "Use --no-xinerama to treat the whole X

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-26 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: The man page _mentions_ setting wallpaper in passing my noting "Use --no-xinerama to treat the whole X display as one screen when setting

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread Brian
On Thu 25 May 2017 at 10:38:22 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 25 May 2017 at 12:18:44 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 18:57:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > > > > I installed and have been using

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread David Wright
On Thu 25 May 2017 at 12:18:44 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 18:57:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > > > > > I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian > > > repositories catch up to

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-25 Thread RavenLX
On 05/21/2017 05:40 PM, David Christensen wrote: As I understand it: * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g. icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to thunderbird 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1). * 'apt-get dist-upgrade'

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/25/2017 06:08 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 25-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). The workaround is using the feh package to

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 18:57:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > > > I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian > > repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch. > > Been working just

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 25-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). > > > > > > > > The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background image. This does work, however, it has to be done each

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/24/2017 06:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > >> I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian >> repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch. >> Been working just fine, with its

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian > repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch. > Been working just fine, with its limitations. It's better than a black > desktop. :) I

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). >> The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background >> image. This does work, however, it has

Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background image. This does work, however, it has to be done each time you log-in. It is better than nothing.

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-22 Thread David Wright
On Mon 22 May 2017 at 09:55:42 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > [...] > > > As I understand it: > > > > * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision > > -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/22/2017 02:55 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > [...] > >> As I understand it: > >> * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision >> -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g.

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:40:47PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: [...] > As I understand it: > > * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision > -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g. > icedove

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-21 Thread David Christensen
On 05/21/2017 05:55 AM, RavenLX wrote: On 05/20/2017 01:00 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/19/2017 07:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: I've been having problems with Xfce wallpaper on Debian 8.8 for a month or more. It broke after an apt-get update/ apt-get upgrade. I filed a bug report,

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-21 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust UTC Time: May 21, 2017 12:55 PM From: rave...@sitesplace.net I haven't noticed any new wallpapers (I too am running Debian 8.8 with XFCE and have my wallpaper set to one I like which I saved in ~/Pictures/Wallpaper

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > On 05/20/2017 06:33 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> >> >> On 05/20/2017 01:56 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: >>> Michael Milliman wrote: >>> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. >>>

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-21 Thread RavenLX
On 05/20/2017 01:00 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/19/2017 07:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: I've been having problems with Xfce wallpaper on Debian 8.8 for a month or more. It broke after an apt-get update/ apt-get upgrade. I filed a bug report, received one reply, tried the suggestions to

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/20/2017 06:33 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > On 05/20/2017 01:56 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: >> Michael Milliman wrote: >> >>> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has >>> ceased to be displayed. >> [...] >>> I have attempted to re-set the desktop >>> background

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/20/2017 01:56 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Michael Milliman wrote: > >> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has >> ceased to be displayed. > [...] >> I have attempted to re-set the desktop >> background via both system settings and via right-click->set desktop >>

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/19/2017 09:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 05/18/2017 09:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has >> ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot >> the problem. The salient information is: OS is

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/20/2017 01:26 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > >> If I try to change my images via either "Settings > Desktop" or right >> click on the desktop, that directory and many others are now faded >> out/washed out/blanked out in that way our systems do so that >> something is

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Mike Kupfer
Michael Milliman wrote: > I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has > ceased to be displayed. [...] > I have attempted to re-set the desktop > background via both system settings and via right-click->set desktop > background on the desktop to no effect. I don't know

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-20 Thread Mike Kupfer
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > If I try to change my images via either "Settings > Desktop" or right > click on the desktop, that directory and many others are now faded > out/washed out/blanked out in that way our systems do so that > something is not clickable.

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/19/2017 07:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 05/18/2017 09:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot the problem. The salient information is: OS is fully

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-19 Thread David Christensen
On 05/18/2017 09:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot the problem. The salient information is: OS is fully updated Testing, MATE desktop environment. I have

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/18/2017 10:27 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 5/19/17, Michael Milliman wrote: I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot the problem. The salient information

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

2017-05-18 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 5/19/17, Michael Milliman wrote: > I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has > ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot > the problem. The salient information is: OS is fully updated Testing, > MATE