Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: You can also use nmcli to take down and bring up your NIC. Can you show a usage of bringing up/down the network? With this in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile [ifupdown] managed=false That does mean that

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has switched away from ifupdown

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: You can also use nmcli to take down and bring up your NIC. Can you show a usage of bringing up/down the network? With this in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main]

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has switched away from ifupdown and over to NetworkManager

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not matter why it might be. The NM developers haven't done themselves any favors by not providing server-type features like bonding... No, it's also controversial for other reasons. In my case, I have issues with it because it

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:37 -0500, Tom H wrote: (...) NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not matter why it might be. The NM developers haven't done themselves any favors by not providing server-type features like bonding... (...) Just a quick okay, but

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile [ifupdown] managed=false That does mean that ifupdown is not in charge .. right? No. It means that ifupdown is in charge rather than NM - as long as you have the interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces. See my

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Dan B.
Bob Proulx wrote: Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: ... How does one take an interface down on squeeze? The expected tool on a GNOME system would be by using the NetworkManager GUI with the mouse or as Tom writes, 'nmcli' from the command line. Something like this: # nmcli conn down id 'Auto

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Dan B.
Tom H wrote: ... NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not matter why it might be. ... So are you lumping people who oppose having things break out from under them, such as, say, someone installing a new release and finding that standard Unix(?)/Linux networking

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Dan B. d...@kempt.net wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). When ifconfig lists an interface eth0, neither ifdown eth0 nor ifdown eth takes the interface down.  The attempts yield:  ifdown:

Re: How to ifdown ... on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has switched away from ifupdown and over to NetworkManager because GNOME by default specifies