Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Lionel VICTOR
Steve Lamb a écrit : Paul Johnson wrote: Yup. If every other system you're supporting is Linux, then SSH is all you need (and it's X11 forwarding option is your friend). If not, you'll have to go with the much slower, much more insecure VNC. Much slower? Erm on the LAN I've switched to

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Lionel VICTOR wrote: Now I'm speaking theoretically 'cos I've never needed to try this out but... SSH can compress data. So, as the CPU is not the problem (i.e.: [SNIP] Well given that, the difference between theory and practice is that practice works... theoretically. As any gamer knows

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:32:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:45:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at home. Yup. If every

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Pigeon wrote: I say this because I've just broken a remote box doing an apt-get upgrade - security upgrades to woody - which Isn't Supposed To Happen. Don't know exactly how, because ssh is one of the things that broke... If you can get access to the box or walk someone through access on the

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 01:41:44PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Pigeon wrote: I say this because I've just broken a remote box doing an apt-get upgrade - security upgrades to woody - which Isn't Supposed To Happen. Don't know exactly how, because ssh is one of the things that broke... If

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 03:38:22AM -0300, Cristian Gutierrez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: You can always tunnel the VNC connection through SSH. And make already sloth VNC more like

Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread speaker11
I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at home. I have been reading about VNC and wondered about its security and speed. I went to tightvnc and see info about using SSH as well. Anyone using a setup

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Benedict Verheyen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at home. I have been reading about VNC and wondered about its security and speed. I went to tightvnc and see info about using SSH as

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:45:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at home. Yup. If every other system you're

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:45:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at home. Yup. If every other system you're supporting is Linux, then SSH

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Joshua Ferraro
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:45:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about remote access. One of my co-workers wants to know if I could provide support for there small network of PC's at

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Yup. If every other system you're supporting is Linux, then SSH is all you need (and it's X11 forwarding option is your friend). If not, you'll have to go with the much slower, much more insecure VNC. Much slower? Erm on the LAN I've switched to using VNC for access to

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: You can always tunnel the VNC connection through SSH. And make already sloth VNC more like sitting through all 3 hours of Titanic: Slow and painful with lots of high-pitched shrieking

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:46:34PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Much slower? Erm on the LAN I've switched to using VNC for access to my X desktop because X was slower than VNC. I can't imagine SSH+X would be faster than VNC. :P What are

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:46:34PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Yup. If every other system you're supporting is Linux, then SSH is all you need (and it's X11 forwarding option is your friend). If not, you'll have to go with the much slower, much more insecure VNC. Much

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:46:34PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Much slower? Erm on the LAN I've switched to using VNC for access to my X desktop because X was slower than VNC. I can't imagine SSH+X would be faster than VNC. :P What are you doing to it that X is slower

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:00:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Running applications. That shouldn't make it slow, X is window-oriented, instead of just-take-a-jpeg-of-the-screen-and-cram-it-over-the-network-oriented. What are you doing that is

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:00:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Running applications. That shouldn't make it slow, X is window-oriented, instead of just-take-a-jpeg-of-the-screen-and-cram-it-over-the-network-oriented. Unfortunately as of a few months ago anything built on

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: You can always tunnel the VNC connection through SSH. And make already sloth VNC more like sitting through all 3 hours of Titanic: Slow and painful with lots of high-pitched shrieking in the middle. Be sure

RE: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Joyce
-Original Message- From: Roberto Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2004 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Remote access PC support Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: You can always

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Joshua Ferraro wrote: You can always tunnel the VNC connection through SSH. It's what I do for those unfortunate times I stuck on a windows machine (since the VNC viewer and PuTTY are monolithic executables that don't require administrative privileges to install). Could you expand on how exactly

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:10:58PM -0800, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:00:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Running applications. That shouldn't make it slow, X is window-oriented, instead of

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Cristian Gutierrez
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:39:21PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: You can always tunnel the VNC connection through SSH. And make already sloth VNC more like sitting through all 3 hours of Titanic: Slow and painful with lots of high-pitched shrieking

Re: Remote access PC support

2004-02-17 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:46:38PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: I've worked with VNC and several other technologies (radmin, WTS, and another which fails to come to mind...). For intermittent support work, they are acceptable. Wouldn't want to work on 'em full time though. I'm working on a