Re: Reply to list vs. group reply [was: Inlclusive terminology...]

se would it be better to use "Reply-To-List". > > > > And in other cases is it also better to use "Reply-To-List". > > I know it is a hot topic here. Preferences vary by the sender, which > I can't perfectly know. > > My e-mail client honours "

Reply to list vs. group reply [was: Inlclusive terminology...]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:35:33AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: [Adjusting the topic] > For keeping that promise would it be better to use "Reply-To-List". > > And in other cases is it also better to use "Reply-To-List". I know it is a hot topic here. Preference

Re: reply-to de la liste

Le 30/07/2023 à 14:29, hamster a écrit : > En essayant je vois que la liste debian-user-french@lists.debian.org n'a > pas de champ "reply-to". Est-ce que c'est voulu ou bien est-ce que c'est > un oubli ? C'est probablement voulu par le projet Debian. Modifier le champ `Reply

Re: reply-to de la liste

@lists.debian.org n'a pas de champ "reply-to". Est-ce que c'est voulu ou bien est-ce que c'est un oubli ? X-Original-To est utilisé

Re: reply-to de la liste

pour les listes de diffusion, donc je vais peut-être dire une connerie, mais est-ce que la variable de TB mail.override_list_reply_to est positionnée à false ? Merci beaucoup, je connaissait pas. En essayant je vois que la liste debian-user-french@lists.debian.org n'a pas de champ "reply-to&

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:59:28PM +0200, Thomas Amm wrote: > On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 16:46 -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark > > [...] > > Regards > > > > Conrats! You have just made it into everybody's kill file. A somewhat

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 16:46 -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark > [...] > Regards > Conrats! You have just made it into everybody's kill file.

Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Lu, 06 sep 21, 16:46:24, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Em 06/09/2021 14:25, John Hasler escreveu: > > Curt writes: > >> I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird > >> to compose your email as plain text > > Or even as "normal" HTML. > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail

Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On 7/09/21 5:25 am, John Hasler wrote: Curt writes: I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird to compose your email as plain text Curt didn't write that; I did. Please be careful with your attributions. I'm intrigued to know how this mistake happened, however. Were you

Re: Partially Solved: OT: Why have I not received any messages from Dedeco (was: Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright))

On Tuesday, September 07, 2021 12:27:32 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can you add Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org to your > > whitelist? Or isn't it possible to use Resent-From? > > Thanks, I'll have to look into that -- that would be something I have to do > for / at google and

Re: Partially Solved: OT: Why have I not received any messages from Dedeco (was: Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright))

- i checked this before trying the command subscription. Em 07/09/2021 13:27, rhkra...@gmail.com escreveu: > Thanks for the reply, some responses interspersed below: > > On Tuesday, September 07, 2021 11:07:36 AM David Wright wrote: >> On Tue 07 Sep 2021 at 08:49:19 (-0400), rhk

Re: Partially Solved: OT: Why have I not received any messages from Dedeco (was: Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright))

Thanks for the reply, some responses interspersed below: On Tuesday, September 07, 2021 11:07:36 AM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 07 Sep 2021 at 08:49:19 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > -- I don't remember that message very well). > > Probably like: > > "In the

Re: Partially Solved: OT: Why have I not received any messages from Dedeco (was: Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright))

On Tue 07 Sep 2021 at 08:49:19 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I occasionally seem to lose other messages (I get the message from the debian- > user lists about about some (small number of) messages beeing undeliverable > in the last day or so (can't remember the term used, and maybe there

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Tue 07 Sep 2021 at 00:20:26 (-0300), Dedeco Balaco wrote: > Em 06/09/2021 23:48, Kenneth Parker escreveu: > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:58 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:46:21PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use

Partially Solved: OT: Why have I not received any messages from Dedeco (was: Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright))

I asked and then answered my own question -- google decided the messages from Dedeco were spam, with this message when I open one (in google mail): This message seems dangerous Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information. Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

Em 07/09/2021 03:28, Andrew M.A. Cater escreveu: > It has been repeated a few times in different > places that you can't jump a release straightforwardly, so it has to > be 9 -> 10 -> 11. > Yes. People in the forum also told me this. But the problem was something else. > Having remade all

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 12:20:26AM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > My issue happened (this is my conclusion) because my Debian 9 was not > updated when I followed the steps to change sources.list to those of > Debian 10. This is something that should be added in Debian > documentation, in my

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 12:20:26AM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Em 06/09/2021 23:48, Kenneth Parker escreveu: > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:58 PM Greg Wooledge > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:46:21PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > >

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:58 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:46:21PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark > > background i need, and to make it ignore the (usually default) > > background of color of all HTML messages,

Re: (HTML) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 3:47 PM Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > > Em 06/09/2021 14:25, John Hasler escreveu: > > Curt writes: > > I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird > to compose your email as plain text > > Or even as "normal" HTML. > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:46:21PM -0300, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark > background i need, and to make it ignore the (usually default) > background of color of all HTML messages, why the people in Debian User > list cannot do it? I will not

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On 06/09/2021 21:50, Dan Ritter wrote: Here is reality: Nobody here is obligated to help you. At all. If we do, it's out of the goodness of our hearts. If we don't, it could be: because we don't know the answer or because you are being rude This is a place where people send questions in

Re: (pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

Dedeco Balaco wrote: > > Em 06/09/2021 14:25, John Hasler escreveu: > > Curt writes: > >> I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird > >> to compose your email as plain text > > > > Or even as "normal" HTML. > > > > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the

(pure text) Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

Em 06/09/2021 14:25, John Hasler escreveu: > Curt writes: >> I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird >> to compose your email as plain text > > Or even as "normal" HTML. > If it is trivial to me setting my mail manager to use the dark background i need, and to make it

Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

Curt writes: > I suggest you follow the earlier advice, and set Thunderbird > to compose your email as plain text Or even as "normal" HTML. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On 2021-09-06, Dedeco Balaco wrote: >> manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. W: GPG >> error: http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease: The >> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is >> not available: NO_PUBKEY 648ACFD622F3D138

Re: Trouble upgrading Debian (reply to David Wright)

On 6/09/21 1:20 pm, Dedeco Balaco wrote: 3. Tried to do 'apt update' as root, but it does not work. GPG signature error. 21:18:54 [ 0] root@compo: /etc/apt # apt-mark hold firefox-esr firefox-esr-l10n-pt-br thunderbird thunderbird-l10n-pt-br firefox-esr set on hold. firefox-esr-l10n-pt-br set

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

for so little. In fact, I did not complained, I advised: > Ms Racicot-Summerside did not CC by mistake, she purposefully overrode > a reply-to header, it is a mistake that can have more severe > consequences than an extraneous CC, including replies getting lost or > arriving where th

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 19:17:42 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > My next mail in this thread will be to give an account of the > configuration of the printer, but it will have to wait a little that I > have upgraded the relevant host to Bullseye. Personally, I look forward to that. Please

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

le. In fact, I did not complained, I advised: Ms Racicot-Summerside did not CC by mistake, she purposefully overrode a reply-to header, it is a mistake that can have more severe consequences than an extraneous CC, including replies getting lost or arriving where they should definitely not arrive. The pu

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On 2021-08-12, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:36:46PM -, Curt wrote: >>He was also quite wrong, which you fail to point out in all your >>admirably enthusiastic rectitude > > I don't have the spoons to police every poster to the list. I'm fairly Certainly. But you did

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:36:46PM -, Curt wrote: He was also quite wrong, which you fail to point out in all your admirably enthusiastic rectitude I don't have the spoons to police every poster to the list. I'm fairly sure I've gone a few rounds with Nicolas myself, in the past. If your

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, 11 Aug 2021, Charles Curley wrote: The signal to noise ratio is getting pretty bad around here. "Around here?" Every poster brings to the list a bit of the world-at-large as they are experiencing it. This occurs quite outside of conscious control. It is pre-reflective behaviour.

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Debian is about choice Polyna. That is mine. Quit monopolizing the conversation unless you are helping the user SOLVE his/her problem. +1 -- Tony van der Hoff|

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 07:25:40 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Speaking as one user who would like to see this list go back to being > a place where howto questions are answered by folks with intimate > knowledge of how its done, an educational resource, ... Hear, hear! Well and timely said, Gene.

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 06:07:21AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 8/11/21 5:02 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > > > >On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > >>wrote: > > > >>Debian is about choice Polyna. That is

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:23:53PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-11, wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It > >> has rules, often violated without realizing

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

Gene Heskett wrote: > Speaking as one user who would like to see this list go back to being a > place where howto questions are answered by folks with intimate > knowledge of how its done, an educational resource, even having healthy > arguments about methods because we are social creatures

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On 8/11/21 5:02 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 11/08/2021 12:25, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2021 04:02:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Debian is about choice Polyna. That is mine. Quit monopolizing the conversation unless you are helping the user SOLVE his/her

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On 2021-08-11, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:02:14AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >>Seems like kindness or understanding on the flexibility or some rules >>are hard to understand. >> >>I've got told it is okay to act this way on this list because of the

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On 2021-08-11, wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > >> This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It >> has rules, often violated without realizing it. You come roaring in here > > Agreed. Less roaring would be... nicer.

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:25:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > This is a mailing list, one I've been subbed to for at least a decade. It > has rules, often violated without realizing it. You come roaring in here [...] Agreed. Less roaring would be... nicer. For all of us :-) Cheers -

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

they explicitly > >> request to be copied." > >> > >> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > >> > >>> I am totally aware of the use of headers. I simply hit *reply* in > >>> my mail client. > >> > >> Either you did so

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:02:14AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Seems like kindness or understanding on the flexibility or some rules are hard to understand. I've got told it is okay to act this way on this list because of the number of user who post without being subscriber.

Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

t state explicitly it is wrong. > Rules don't cover all use case of life. And must be applied with some judgements. >> The first message I've answered you was sent in CC, that's all. > > So you DID override the reply-to header that I explicitly placed. You > not only trampled the rules

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

ter unless they explicitly request to be >> copied." >> >> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ >> >>> I am totally aware of the use of headers. I simply hit *reply* in my >>> mail client. >> >> Either you did something else for my e-mail or your ma

Re: End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

, that's all. So you DID override the reply-to header that I explicitly placed. You not only trampled the rules of this mailing-list, you also showed a gross misunderstanding of how e-mail work. Here, have the last word. Have all the last words for all I care. -- Nicolas George signature.asc

End of the line [ was Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)]

they explicitly request to be > copied." > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > I am also totally aware of this rule and if you read my last message, you'll notice that I specified conditions and reason why I did so. When I know that a user is now on the mailing list, I'l

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

ists/ > >> I am totally aware of the use of headers. I simply hit *reply* in my >> mail client. > > Either you did something else for my e-mail or your mail client is > bogus. I specifically configured my headers to avoid a double reply, the > same way most mailing-lists are

Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

as wrong. Do not do it. "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied." https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > I am totally aware of the use of headers. I simply hit *reply* in my > mai

Re: in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

On June 10, 2021 12:42:26 PM GMT+02:00, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >Inget beslut är taget ännu. Jag ville bara informera att OFTC har dom >flesta av Debians övriga IRC-kanaler (och även en #debian.se), och >argumentera för att det kan vara bra att ha alla kanaler samlade på >samma server. >

Re: in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 04:44:43 +0200, Hund wrote: >>irc.debian.net är en alias för OFTC-servern. Dessutom så finns dom >>flesta Debian-kanaler på OFTC. Så det kan vara smidigt att ha svensk >>Debian-support på samma server som alla andra Debian-kanaler... > >Då är ju frågan varför du tog upp det

Re: in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

On 2021-06-10 04:44, Hund wrote: irc.debian.net är en alias för OFTC-servern. Dessutom så finns dom flesta Debian-kanaler på OFTC. Så det kan vara smidigt att ha svensk Debian-support på samma server som alla andra Debian-kanaler... Då är ju frågan varför du tog upp det och frågade vad som

Re: in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

>irc.debian.net är en alias för OFTC-servern. Dessutom så finns dom >flesta Debian-kanaler på OFTC. Så det kan vara smidigt att ha svensk >Debian-support på samma server som alla andra Debian-kanaler... Då är ju frågan varför du tog upp det och frågade vad som var ett bra val från början om

Re: in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 20:33:45 +0200, Hund wrote: >> Nu har det gått mer än en vecka sedan jag postade det här, och det >> enda svar som har skickats håller med om att det räcker med att länka >> OFTC-kanalen. Så därför kommer jag att utföra detta om ingen kommer >> med några protester. (Låt säga

in-reply-to=%3C20210604174014.513c0fee@debian-i7%3E=Re:%20Re:%20Debian%20svensk%20IRC-kanal

> Nu har det gått mer än en vecka sedan jag postade det här, och det enda > svar som har skickats håller med om att det räcker med att länka > OFTC-kanalen. Så därför kommer jag att utföra detta om ingen kommer med > några protester. (Låt säga att jag ger det en vecka till). > > Intresset verkar

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On Monday, September 28, 2020 08:42:03 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 29/09/20 12:40 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, September 28, 2020 01:28:01 AM Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 26/09/20 2:47 pm, David Wright wrote: > >> > If you make yourself a member of the adm group, you can read

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 01:42:03 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote: > On 29/09/20 12:40 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, September 28, 2020 01:28:01 AM Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 26/09/20 2:47 pm, David Wright wrote: > >> > If you make yourself a member of the adm group, you can read your

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On 29/09/20 12:40 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, September 28, 2020 01:28:01 AM Richard Hector wrote: >> On 26/09/20 2:47 pm, David Wright wrote: >> > If you make yourself a member of the adm group, you can read your logs >> > as a normal user. You'd need to type into any terminal >> >

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On Monday, September 28, 2020 01:28:01 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 26/09/20 2:47 pm, David Wright wrote: > > If you make yourself a member of the adm group, you can read your logs > > as a normal user. You'd need to type into any terminal > > > > $ sudo addgroup myloginname adm > > > >

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On 26/09/20 2:47 pm, David Wright wrote: > If you make yourself a member of the adm group, you can read your logs > as a normal user. You'd need to type into any terminal > > $ sudo addgroup myloginname adm > > replacing myloginname as appropriate, but you will need to login again > before the

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

, it`s a nightmare. I`ll likely be back asking for help with this. Regards. Anthony John. On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 03:48, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 11:19:40 (+0100), anthony gennard wrote: > > My email has gone haywire and I cannot reply to two of the messages. > &

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 11:19:40 (+0100), anthony gennard wrote: > My email has gone haywire and I cannot reply to two of the messages. > Fortunately, I had made copies of them. > Greg Wooledge said to me > >"How are you `looking at ` the file? > >I would suggest usi

Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

My email has gone haywire and I cannot reply to two of the messages. Fortunately, I had made copies of them. Greg Wooledge said to me >"How are you `looking at ` the file? >I would suggest using less. >You get out of less by pressing p Greg, I was using less. What I did was:- Op

Re: Reply semantics, yet again (was Re: Zoom- best practice?)

e non-list behavior. That would allow you to click on it always, without having to take notice. > Don't get me wrong; my original position on this, which I'd still prefer > a solution that makes possible, is that the basic Reply function should > do "smart" detection of the

Reply semantics, yet again (was Re: Zoom- best practice?)

er-mailing-list basis. Otherwise, I'd >> probably have done this years ago, unless other considerations >> (e.g., UI for when I want to do this vs. when I really do want to >> reply to the sender or to all recipients) took precedence. > > With Mutt, I use this: > > sen

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 09:01:35 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > > If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the > > > message, so as not to disturb the "evidence" or "scene of the crime". > > > > I

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On Apr 20, 2020, Russell L. Harris wrote: > [...] > Neo-mutt documentation led me to believe that there is a "b" command > (or something of the sort) for BOUNCE; but I did not find it, perhaps > because I use the "Classic Dvorak" keymap. I then discovered that > commands not tied to a key can be

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > > If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the > > message, so as not to disturb the "evidence" or "scene of the crime". > > I remain unconvinced. If you forward an email as an attachment, then > its

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: In addition, if the original email contained a malicious gotcha, you expose the recipient of the bounced email to the same risk that you presumably have just avoided. I am no expert on the matter. However, my approach has been to

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

the time. […] > As I understand it, BOUNCING or REDIRECTION relays a message in the > most pristine form available, preserving the header, whereas > FORWARDING allows you to make changes to the message. This is (or > should be) true, irrespective of the mail user agent. I cannot speak

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 07:36:40PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >>Oh, this was explicitly about Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"? > >>I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read. > > >If this is so, then : must be an

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

der, whereas FORWARDING allows you to make changes to the message. This is (or should be) true, irrespective of the mail user agent. I cannot speak with authority regarding the difference between REPLY and FORWARD. If I receive spam and wish to report it to my ISP, I BOUNCE the message, so as no

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

ng "exec". I see no mention of : in that role on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts so we need some clarification. > > However, if you wish to make additions or modifications to the > > message, you use forward. Forward is like a reply, except it is >

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

t Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"? I > missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read. I don't think it was. >> However, if you wish to make additions or modifications to the >> message, you use forward. Forward is like a reply, except it is >> sent to a

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On 2020-04-20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "back to the sender" makes me unsure now: does ":exec bounce-message" > let you choose the target, or is it just "back to sender"? > What did I tell you?

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

On 2020-04-20, elvis wrote: > > On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote: >>> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >> [...] >> Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is *not* forwarding (should

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

bird's ":exec bounce-message"? I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read. > However, if you wish to make additions or modifications to the > message, you use forward. Forward is like a reply, except it is > sent to a third party, rather than back to the sender. "back

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(Extraneous quoted misattribution removed for clarity, after having reviewed the thread to determine who actually wrote what.) On 2020-04-20 at 05:15, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: > Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? > >

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his thread. But briefly, bounce sends the message, intact, complete with attachments, if any, just as if you were a relay station. However, if you wish to make additions or modifications to the message, you use forward. Forward is like a reply, except it is sent to a third party, rather than back to the sender. RLH

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:15:32AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: > >>>On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >>>Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? > > Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message". Oh, wow. Thanks for

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".

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On 2020-04-19, wrote: > >> My half-assed understanding of bouncing is this: When you get a >> message that wasn't really meant for you, and you know where it ought >> to go, then you should "bounce" it there [...] > > Correct. This was bounce's original purpose. It has the property > that it

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On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is *not* forwarding (should probably mention this in the wiki).U In over 25

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:09:28PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400 > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email > > from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) > > Yes, you are wrong.

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email > from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) Yes, you are wrong. There are plenty of legitimate users in the Netherlands. -- Does anybody read

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On 4/19/20 4:59 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: /snip/ This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) --doug

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:28:08PM +, davidson wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote: > >> > >>I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". > > > >I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific

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rsonal name and e-mail address of the person you are bouncing a message to. Resent-Cc: The Cc field of the original message that was bounced. Resent-Reply-To: The Reply-To field of the person bouncing the message. Hope this helps. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_forwarding#Forwarding_ver

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On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote: > > I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instructions explicitly mention mutt as an example. As far as I can tell it is what Wikipedia calls "remailing"[1], though I

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On Du, 19 apr 20, 13:27:40, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> > >> Ah, I see. I was betting on "forwarding", but later it occurred to me > >> that this would wrap the original message (probably without headers > >> :-( into a part of a multi-part MIME. Drats. Probably you are

Re: Forwarding to report-listspam.d.o vs bounce [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> As far as I know "forwarding as attachment" does not affect the >>> original message (though this may depend on the client), however it >>> is *not* appropriate for this particular

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and > >>> it

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Hallo! Du (Andrei POPESCU) hast geschrieben: > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org Please see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#Methods_to_Nominate_Spam_for_the_Review-Process > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail

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Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and >>> it involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another >>> address.

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:07:50PM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > >>On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>>On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: >

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On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server. Just

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Am 19.04.20 um 12:38 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works, and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-) You need to install an add on to have this feature in Thunderbird and it's forks: https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/ Maybe there

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] > >>Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server. > >Just to avoid misunderstandings: how are

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:51:27AM +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote: [...] > I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". The vast majority of > spam reporting agencies I have worked with ask for either headers, or the > whole of the offending message sent as an attachment. No email client

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