On Vi, 21 mar 14, 10:34:03, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is
locked.
Seriously? I'd find that to be a
On 2014-03-25 12:08:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Alt-SysRq-F is disabled on sid:
mar 25 12:03:28 sid kernel: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled.
But what if someone logs in, uses all the memory left (possibly not
even in a malicious way) so that this triggers the OOM killer, and
the
On 2014-03-23 21:06:55 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
Seems I'm a little bit old-fashioned ;-)
According to the man-page Xsession(5) the system scripts take care of using a
log-file, given that you indeed don't have ~/.xinitrc .
So maybe the man-page of startx(1) has to be updated, since it
On Mon 24 Mar 2014 at 12:37:36 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2014-03-23 21:06:55 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
Seems I'm a little bit old-fashioned ;-)
According to the man-page Xsession(5) the system scripts take care of using
a
log-file, given that you indeed don't have
Seems I'm a little bit old-fashioned ;-)
According to the man-page Xsession(5) the system scripts take care of using a
log-file, given that you indeed don't have ~/.xinitrc .
So maybe the man-page of startx(1) has to be updated, since it only talks about
~/.xinitrc .
Best regards,
Jörg-Volker.
On 2014-03-21 17:13:41 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
Vincent Lefevre writes:
The fact that it is multi-user doesn't mean that it will necessarily
be used by several desktop users.
You can remove spawning the getty on tty you don't want to use.
I don't know how to do this with
On 2014-03-21 13:35:37 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
To cure my paranoia of having stdout going to an unknown place, I made
the following executable /usr/local/bin/exx:
==
#!/bin/bash
startx /dev/null exit
==
I invoke
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
wrote:
I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your
laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer
In order to keep the output of the X-session when starting with the command
startx, something like the following snippet could be inserted into the file
~/.xinitrc :
sessid=${HOSTNAME:-$(uname -n)}-${DISPLAY##*:}
# Send output to file
#
logfile=${XDG_CACHE_HOME:-$HOME}/xinit-${sessid}.log
:
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote, on 03/22/2014 16:52:
In order to keep the output of the X-session when starting with the command
startx, something like the following snippet could be inserted into the file
~/.xinitrc :
sessid=${HOSTNAME:-$(uname -n)}-${DISPLAY##*:}
# Send output to file
#
On Sat 22 Mar 2014 at 17:50:11 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote, on 03/22/2014 16:52:
In order to keep the output of the X-session when starting with the command
startx, something like the following snippet could be inserted into the file
~/.xinitrc :
This is the
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 19:14 +, Brian wrote:
. . .
This is the fourth or fifth time in this thread a recommendation to use
~/.xinitrc has been made. No sensible Debian user would have such a file
in his account. A happy Debian system is one with ~/.xsession.
I'm a Debian newbie, so --
On 2014-03-22 20:14 +0100, Brian wrote:
On Sat 22 Mar 2014 at 17:50:11 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote, on 03/22/2014 16:52:
In order to keep the output of the X-session when starting with the command
startx, something like the following snippet could be inserted
On Sat 22 Mar 2014 at 15:02:58 -0500, Bill Wood wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 19:14 +, Brian wrote:
. . .
This is the fourth or fifth time in this thread a recommendation to use
~/.xinitrc has been made. No sensible Debian user would have such a file
in his account. A happy Debian
On Sat 22 Mar 2014 at 21:19:59 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2014-03-22 20:14 +0100, Brian wrote:
This is the fourth or fifth time in this thread a recommendation to use
~/.xinitrc has been made. No sensible Debian user would have such a file
in his account.
Care to elaborate why not?
On Jo, 20 mar 14, 12:44:21, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Anyone with physical access to your computer could:
a) logout of your gui session (if it's not screensaver locked), taking
them back to your command line, and depending on your settings of
/etc/sudoers tty_tickets or respectively
Andrei POPESCU writes:
3. any user, with or without root access, who doesn't lock his
workstation as needed[1] deserves his fate.
And does not uses startx; exit
You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is
locked.
--
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote:
Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12
For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke
combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1
through 12, respectively. This can be disabled with the
DontVTSwitch
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is
locked.
Seriously? I'd find that to be a severe bug in the said locking
application.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 09:24:21 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote:
Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12
For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke
combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1
through 12,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:52:03AM +, Brian wrote:
In an xterm (with or without using DontVTSwitch):
brian@localhost:~$ chvt 4
Couldn't gat a file descriptor referring to the console
Doubt no longer. :)
Try via sudo. (risk reduced to: X session left open, terminal left open,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is
locked.
Seriously? I'd find that to be a severe bug in the said locking
application.
It's a
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 10:24:54 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:52:03AM +, Brian wrote:
In an xterm (with or without using DontVTSwitch):
brian@localhost:~$ chvt 4
Couldn't gat a file descriptor referring to the console
Doubt no longer. :)
Try
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote:
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
Maybe, maybe not. Console access doesn't have to mean complete access.
The
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 11:18:19 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote:
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
Maybe, maybe
Le 20.03.2014 02:44, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less
command-prompt
comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI via the desktop
manager. But when setting it up for myself or for people technically
sharp enough to log in and then type
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes:
Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout?
H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Would you forgive me if I
don't do the test right now and continue to do the work I am paid for
:) ?
--
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Le 21.03.2014 13:54, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes:
Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout?
H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Would you forgive me if
I
don't do the test right now and continue to do the work I am paid for
:) ?
Currently,
On 21 March 2014 11:18, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote:
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
Maybe,
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk ha scritto nel messaggio
news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx exit'
prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT+FN etc gets
console access?
I've always used startx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes:
Le 21.03.2014 13:54, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes:
Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout?
H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc .
Me _idiot_! (despite the triple expresso shot).
I should have
On Friday 21 March 2014 11:06:03 Robin wrote:
If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
The default on Debian since I have been using it is that the root
password is required for access via single user
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:25:14 +0100, Valerio Vanni wrote:
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk ha scritto nel messaggio
news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx exit'
prevent the termination of an X session even
On 2014-03-21 10:34:03 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is
locked.
Seriously? I'd find that to be a
On 2014-03-21 11:41:29 +, Brian wrote:
For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx exit'
prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT+FN etc gets
console access?
Doing the exit immediately can have some side effects in some
configurations. For instance, my
Vincent Lefevre writes:
The fact that it is multi-user doesn't mean that it will necessarily
be used by several desktop users.
You can remove spawning the getty on tty you don't want to use.
I don't know how to do this with systemd... With init you had some
nice and well commented entries in
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:24:21 +
Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote:
Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12
For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke
combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:06:03 +
Robin rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com wrote:
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
change the root password?
Unless you have a BIOS password or encrypted root
Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com writes:
I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your
laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer
with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink
with the command prompt.
Easier and
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:25:14 +0100
Valerio Vanni vale...@valeriovanni.com wrote:
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk ha scritto nel messaggio
news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx
exit' prevent the termination
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:06:03 +
Robin rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com wrote:
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your
machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your
laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer
with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink
with
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your
laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer
with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink
with
On 2014-03-20 12:44:21 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
When logging in at the Linux console (on current kernels at least),
then running startx, there is a security problem:
Anyone with physical access to your computer could:
a) logout of your gui session (if it's not screensaver locked),
On 2014-03-20, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
For instance, type:
sleep 2; exit
and Ctrl-C just after. The sleep 2 is interrupted, but exit
isn't run.
You could still do exec startx, but this may not be OK if you
want *logout files to be sourced for clean-up.
Not using sudo
On Thu 20 Mar 2014 at 12:44:21 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less command-prompt
comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI via the desktop
manager. But when setting it up for myself or for people technically
sharp enough to log
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 22:48:49 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:44:21 +1100
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
SO: what to do?
What I did for a while was:
a) log in to Linux console
b) startx; exit
Outstanding! I'm going to start doing
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less command-prompt
comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI via the desktop
manager. But when setting it up for myself or for people technically
sharp enough to log in and then type startx (and people you can
trust with the
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:44:21 +1100
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less
command-prompt comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI
via the desktop manager. But when setting it up for myself or for
people technically
On 3/20/14, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com litt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:44:21 +1100
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less
command-prompt comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI
via the desktop
On 3/20/14, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
On 3/20/14, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com litt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:44:21 +1100
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less
command-prompt comfortable
On 20/03/14 13:48, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:44:21 +1100
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less
command-prompt comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI
via the desktop manager. But
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