Re: does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread jindam, vani
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 09:56:21AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free > in my sources.list. > > does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian > Security Advisories (DSA))? &g

Re: does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 09:56:21AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free > in my sources.list. > > does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian > Security Advisories (DSA))?

does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))

2022-11-13 Thread jindam, vani
i have only deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free in my sources.list. does apt upgrade & full-upgrade packages from Security Updates (Debian Security Advisories (DSA))? which is correct? deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main con

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread David Wright
> > > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-securitybuster/updates main contrib > > > non-free > > > > I hope there is another / between security and buster. > > You mean a space. > > > > This is what I have. But can you explain me. Why I am no

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
main contrib > > non-free > > I hope there is another / between security and buster. You mean a space. > > This is what I have. But can you explain me. Why I am not getting the > > latest security updates? What specific update did you expect to see, that you did not get

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Dan Ritter
what I have. But can you explain me. Why I am not getting the latest > security updates? Today you should be getting a new linux kernel. However, buster is the old release, and bullseye is the new stable release. Only significant security updates will be made for the old system. -dsr-

Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Dimitrios Papanikolaou
Hi, I have Debian 10 (buster) installed in my Nodes. I use the sec repo: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-securitybuster/updates main contrib non-free This is what I have. But can you explain me. Why I am not getting the latest security updates? Today I updated the Debian Nodes

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-22 Thread Keith Christian
> The OP is tilting at windmills. > > The example I posted has been used every three hours of my waking day > for the past 2½ years. It fails when my cable company fails. > > The OP has quoted some hearsay off the web, period. And not a single > reference with it. The OP calls this "pre-startup

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Feb 2022 at 13:50:20 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 06:00 -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:33 AM Tixy wrote: > > > I assume because Buster isn't in Long Term Support yet, it's still in > > > normal support by the security team. From the schedule

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-22 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 06:00 -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:33 AM Tixy wrote: > > I assume because Buster isn't in Long Term Support yet, it's still in > > normal support by the security team. From the schedule on the wiki, > > it's due to go into LTS this July. > >

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 06:00:53AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:33 AM Tixy wrote: > > I assume because Buster isn't in Long Term Support yet, it's still in > > normal support by the security team. From the schedule on the wiki, > > it's due to go into LTS this July. >

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-22 Thread Keith Christian
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:33 AM Tixy wrote: > I assume because Buster isn't in Long Term Support yet, it's still in > normal support by the security team. From the schedule on the wiki, > it's due to go into LTS this July. Thanks Tixy, I remembered that I made a copy of the original

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 04:28:33PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-02-21 15:45 UTC+0100, David Wright wrote: > > > AFAICT, running buster, nothing has yet changed. My sources.list > > is attached (ignore the first line), and as of this morning it > > yields: > And I think nothing

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 15:48 +, Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 08:16 -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > > The Buster machine I'm planning to re-activate is still powered off > > until I find the exact security update lines for sources.list. > > These won't have changed since you first

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 08:16 -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > The Buster machine I'm planning to re-activate is still powered off > until I find the exact security update lines for sources.list. These won't have changed since you first installed Buster. As I said in my other reply, Buster isn't yet

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/21/2022 10:28 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-02-21 15:45 UTC+0100, David Wright wrote: AFAICT, running buster, nothing has yet changed. My sources.list is attached (ignore the first line), and as of this morning it yields: And I think nothing will change in the future. Take the

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-02-21 15:45 UTC+0100, David Wright wrote: > AFAICT, running buster, nothing has yet changed. My sources.list > is attached (ignore the first line), and as of this morning it > yields: And I think nothing will change in the future. Take the Stretch example at

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Keith Christian
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:31 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 06:25:35AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > > My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the > > /LTS/Using page, but it contained no Buster-specific instructions. > > See also

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 21 Feb 2022 at 08:30:54 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 06:25:35AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > > My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the > > /LTS/Using page, but it contained no Buster-specific instructions. > > See also

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 06:25 -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > I plan to bring a Buster machine which has been shut down for quite a > while online again. > Before connecting it to the internet, I looked for instructions on how > to add the LTS security updates entries to sources.list. &

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 06:25:35AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the > /LTS/Using page, but it contained no Buster-specific instructions. See also which says: Q) Where do I get buster

Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Keith Christian
I plan to bring a Buster machine which has been shut down for quite a while online again. Before connecting it to the internet, I looked for instructions on how to add the LTS security updates entries to sources.list. My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the /LTS/Using

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 12:57 PM Richmond wrote: > Richmond writes: > > > Now trying: > > > > gn gen out/Default "--args=is_debug=false symbol_level=0 > > blink_symbol_level=0 v8_symbol_level=0 is_official_build=true > > chrome_pgo_phase = 0" > > > > I've built this version and it is working

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-28 Thread Richmond
Richmond writes: > Now trying: > > gn gen out/Default "--args=is_debug=false symbol_level=0 > blink_symbol_level=0 v8_symbol_level=0 is_official_build=true > chrome_pgo_phase = 0" > I've built this version and it is working well. As the problem with chromium is caused by the debian build

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-27 Thread Richmond
Christian Britz writes: > On 2022-01-24 12:44 UTC+0100, Richmond wrote: > >>> I've built Version 100.0.4845.0 (Developer Build) (64-bit) and it seems >>> to be working fine here on debian 10. >> >> Not OK actually, it is very slow. > > The reason are probably enabled debug options. > >

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-24 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-01-24 12:44 UTC+0100, Richmond wrote: >> I've built Version 100.0.4845.0 (Developer Build) (64-bit) and it seems >> to be working fine here on debian 10. > > Not OK actually, it is very slow. The reason are probably enabled debug options. Personally I am not satisfied with the

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-24 Thread Richmond
Richmond writes: > Salvatore Bonaccorso writes: > >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 07:20:26PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Jo, 20 ian 22, 00:08:52, Richmond wrote: >>> > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 >>> > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-23 Thread Richmond
Salvatore Bonaccorso writes: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 07:20:26PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Jo, 20 ian 22, 00:08:52, Richmond wrote: >> > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 >> > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 >>

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-22 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi, On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 07:20:26PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 20 ian 22, 00:08:52, Richmond wrote: > > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 > > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 > > (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 ian 22, 00:08:52, Richmond wrote: > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 > (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that mean it is out of date and has > security vulnerabilities? > >

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-20 Thread Richmond
The Wanderer writes: > On 2022-01-19 at 19:08, Richmond wrote: > >> I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 >> (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 >> (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that mean it is out of date and has >> security

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-01-19 at 19:08, Richmond wrote: > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 > (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that mean it is out of date and has > security vulnerabilities? Roughly speaking,

Re: Chromium security updates

2022-01-19 Thread harryweaver
20 Jan 2022, 10:08 by richm...@criptext.com: > I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 > (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 > (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that mean it is out of date and has > security vulnerabilities? > >

Chromium security updates

2022-01-19 Thread Richmond
I see debian 10's chromium is currently on version 90.0.4430.212 (Developer Build), whereas google-chrome is on Version 97.0.4692.99 (Official Build) (64-bit). Does that mean it is out of date and has security vulnerabilities? https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/search/label/Stable%20updates

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Gregory McPherran
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:22 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: > Hi, > > This shows the new security line form as: > DebianBullseye - Debian

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:52:18AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:22:17AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Take the opportunity to at least upgrade to Debian 9 and, ideally, 10. > > Debian 11 should be here inside a month - if you can get to 10, you'll > > have at

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:22:17AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Take the opportunity to at least upgrade to Debian 9 and, ideally, 10. Debian 11 should be here inside a month - if you can get to 10, you'll have at least a further year of security support for 10. Worth noting that skipping

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: > Hi, > > This shows the new security line form as: > DebianBullseye - Debian > Wiki > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 12 iul 21, 18:55:30, Gregory McPherran wrote: > Hi, > > This shows the new security line form as: > DebianBullseye - Debian > Wiki > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Thompson
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: >Is one of"http://security.debian.org/debian-security;or >"http://security.debian.org; the correct format ? > >Or is the "debian-security" portion optional ? I don't think `debian-security` in the URL suffix is

APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates - Documentation Discrepancy

2021-07-12 Thread Gregory McPherran
debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates Hi, This shows the new security line form as: DebianBullseye - Debian Wiki<https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBullseye?highlight=%28CategoryRelease%29#New_Features> deb http://security.debian.org/deb

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Try both and see which one works. If the wiki is wrong, edit the wiki so that it's correct. (Then hope some jerk doesn't revert your changes.) There's only one person acting like a jerk here.

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: > > This shows the new security line form as: > > DebianBullseye - Debian > > Wiki > > deb

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: > This shows the new security line form as: > DebianBullseye - Debian > Wiki > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security

APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Gregory McPherran
Hi, This shows the new security line form as: DebianBullseye - Debian Wiki deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main This shows the new security line form as:

Re: Auto install security updates only?

2021-06-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
. My guess is they are both regular stable updates, not security updates. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Auto install security updates only?

2021-06-22 Thread Dick Visser
Hi I'm looking for a way to auto install security updates only. To this end have configured unattended-upgrades like this: Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern { "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename},label=Debian-Security"; }; Unattended-Upgrade::Package-Blacklist {

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 04 iun 21, 16:24:32, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 07:59:31AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > 3) Calling "systemctl disable" only works for *services*, > > That not how it works, actually. > systemctl disable can be used to disable any timer, but you have to >

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread David Wright
On Fri 04 Jun 2021 at 12:40:26 (+0200), Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 6:02 PM > > From: "Thomas D. Dean" > > > > I use Ubuntu. I removed the ubuntu desktop and installed vanilla gnome. > > Google: > > 'Converting Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to Vanilla Gnome3' > > According to

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread David Wright
On Fri 04 Jun 2021 at 08:35:38 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-06-04 7:59 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 02:15:24AM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > >> Output of systemctl list-timers | grep apt > >> > >> Thu 2021-06-03 20:29:30 GMT 9h leftThu

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 07:59:31AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 02:15:24AM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Output of systemctl list-timers | grep apt > > > > Thu 2021-06-03 20:29:30 GMT 9h leftThu 2021-06-03 09:18:00 GMT 1h > > 17min ago

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-04 7:59 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 02:15:24AM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: >> Output of systemctl list-timers | grep apt >> >> Thu 2021-06-03 20:29:30 GMT 9h leftThu 2021-06-03 09:18:00 GMT 1h >> 17min ago apt-daily.timer

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 02:15:24AM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Output of systemctl list-timers | grep apt > > Thu 2021-06-03 20:29:30 GMT 9h leftThu 2021-06-03 09:18:00 GMT 1h > 17min ago apt-daily.timer apt-daily.service > Fri 2021-06-04 06:51:16 GMT 20h left Thu

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thomas > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 6:02 PM > From: "Thomas D. Dean" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > I use Ubuntu. I removed the ubuntu desktop and in

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 6/3/21 11:15 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote: Hi Thomas Thank you for your help and time. I really appreciate it. Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 10:23 AM From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of softwar

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 04 iun 21, 02:03:10, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Tom > > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 4:18 AM > > From: "Tom Browder" > > Don't get me wrong Tom. I'm perfectly fine with receiving emails in > HTML format. It's just that a few years ago, when I sent emails with > HTML formatting,

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-04 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thomas Thank you for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 10:23 AM > From: "Thomas D. Dean" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? &g

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 6/3/21 5:15 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote: Hi Greg Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 9:55 AM From: "Greg Wooledge" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates? I gave some alternatives that will r

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Greg > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 9:55 AM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > > I gave some alternatives that will reveal more i

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Tom > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 4:18 AM > From: "Tom Browder" > To: "Stella Ashburne" > Cc: "debian-user mailing list" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > > Unfort

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 03:18:31PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > This time i'm replying from my laptop so it **should** be plain text. It is.

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 20:48 Stella Ashburne wrote: ... > On a different topic, I noticed that you composed your email with HTML > formatting. I didn't know > it is allowed by Debian User Mailing List. Unfortunately I mostly use email from my iPad (gmail app) and I haven't found a way to get

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 3:03 AM > From: "Linux-Fan" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > >

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-03 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi, Thanks for your help and effort. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 4:02 AM > From: l0f...@tuta.io > To: "Debian User" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > Cannot remem

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 03:54:01AM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > From: "Reco" > > The most important parts of "systemctl list-timers" (your problem > > considered) are UNIT and ACTIVATES columns, and your result lacks them > > for some reason. > > > What does "your result lacks them for some

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Reco Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 12:33 AM > From: "Reco" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? >

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Tom Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it.     Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 3:53 AM From: "Tom Browder" To: "Stella Ashburne" Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread l0f4r0
Stella, Cannot remember if you have Gnome installed but you should have a look at  https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/594287, especially ALL the associated comments (click on "Show 7 more comments"). HTH l0f4r0

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:25 Stella Ashburne wrote: > My OS is Debian 10.9 and has the kernel version: How did you get the installation originally? Was it from a fresh install of Buster or an upgrade from 9 or older version? -Tom

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 09:03:23PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > alias systemctl='systemctl -l --no-pager' > alias journalctl='journalctl --no-pager' Hmm, that's handy because it preserves the underline/boldface terminal markup, unlike the |cat trick. > > systemctl list-timers | grep apt

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Linux-Fan
Greg Wooledge writes: On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 07:33:32PM +0300, Reco wrote: >Hi. > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Output of systemctl list-timers [...] > > 6 timers listed. > > Pass --all to see loaded but inactive timers, too. > > The most

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 07:33:32PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Output of systemctl list-timers > > > > > > NEXT LEFT LAST > > PASSED > > Wed 2021-06-02 16:24:55

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Output of systemctl list-timers > > > NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED > Wed 2021-06-02 16:24:55 GMT 4min 34s left n/a n/a > Thu 2021-06-03

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 at 7:49 PM > From: l0f...@tuta.io > To: "Debian User" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > What about the f

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread l0f4r0
2 juin 2021, 13:03 de rewe...@gmx.com: >> Can you provide us with the output of the following commands? >> > Output of crontab -l > > No crontab for username > > > Output of sudo crontab -l > > No crontab for root > > > Output of cat /etc/crontab > > # /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab > # Unlike

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 at 3:01 PM > From: l0f...@tuta.io > To: "Debian User" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > NB: You do not ne

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-02 Thread l0f4r0
Hi Stella, >> NB: You can still filter `apt-cache rdepends` results with some other >> switches like `--no-pre-depends`,  `--no-recommends`,  `--no-suggests`,  >> `--no-conflicts`,  `--no-breaks`, `--no-replaces` and `--no-enhances`. >> > > Thanks for the above tip. > > Can I do something like

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Joe
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 19:19:23 +0200 Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 at 9:26 PM > > From: "Joe" > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > > software/

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jun 01, 2021 at 07:27:22PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > I'm curious what will be shown in this configuration by: > > > > apt-config dump | grep Periodic > > > One kind person has already asked me for the output of My bad. I haven't followed this thread closely until now.

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Stella Ashburne wrote: > As you can see from the screenshot, my OS has surreptitiously downloaded > software/security updates without my manual intervention. This behavior is > not what I like and it's the subject of my original post. > > > > > The devil is in

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 at 9:39 PM > From: "Reco" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > As you can see from the screenshot, my OS has surreptitiously downloade

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 at 9:26 PM > From: "Joe" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > First of all, id you surf using the link to the screenshot? Here's th

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jun 01, 2021 at 02:26:50PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > Automatic downloads of software/security downloads took place today, > > June 1, 2021. > > > > Please click the link to the screenshot: https://ibb.co/5xP7r5t > > > > Please see below for the details: > > > >

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Joe
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 13:15:30 +0200 Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi > > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 at 8:05 PM > > From: l0f...@tuta.io > > To: "Debian User" > > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > > software/secur

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-06-01 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 at 8:05 PM > From: l0f...@tuta.io > To: "Debian User" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > 28 mai 2021, 13:43 de l0f...@tuta.io: > > > I think you wo

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Question: Is it a prerequisite (pre-condition) that to set up a cron job to > download updates at a fixed time every day, the OS must have the installed > package "unattended-upgrades"? > No. apt install apticron will get you a customizable cron job that will: -

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 30 May 2021 13:08:18 +0200 Stella Ashburne wrote: > My knowledge of computing, Linux and Debian is elementary and hence I > won't know how to set up a cron-apt or use apticron. > > Question: Is it a prerequisite (pre-condition) that to set up a cron > job to download updates at a fixed

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 01:08:18PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Question: Is it a prerequisite (pre-condition) that to set up a cron job to > download updates at a fixed time every day, the OS must have the installed > package "unattended-upgrades"? Nope. You can write your own cron job to

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:00 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: "Stella Ashburne" > Cc: "Greg Wooledge" , debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? >

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 5:29 PM > From: l0f...@tuta.io > To: "Debian User" > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > NB: You can s

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread tomas
On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 12:45:13PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: [...] > Thanks for your observation about tasksel and autoremove. > > About the only time that I encountered tasksel was during the installation of > Debian. > > Since you mentioned tasksel in your reply, how do you invoke

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Andrei > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 3:06 PM > From: "Andrei POPESCU" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > aptitude was deprecated for some very specific

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Greg, > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 8:58 PM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > > tasksel will also perform an autoremove for you wit

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
> Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > > software/security updates? > > > > Removing files belonging to a package is typically frowned upon, as this > > can under specific circumstances be like pulling the rug from underneath > > a package (or w

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-29 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hello Andrei Thank you for your advice and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 2:49 PM > From: "Andrei POPESCU" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security up

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 09:49:06AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In the case of configuration files (basically everything that is under > /etc and a few other places) it can cause unexpected or even unsafe > behaviour as the software might revert to built-in defaults that could > be wrong for

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-29 Thread l0f4r0
`--no-enhances`. 29 mai 2021, 01:32 de rewe...@gmx.com: > Oh my God, are you telling me that we are not done with this "whatever thing > you may call it"? I thought I could close this matter..lol > > Based on your vast experience of using Linux in general and Debian in

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 28 mai 21, 20:40:23, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Question: Instead of using "aptitude why unattended-upgrades" command, > can I use "apt why unattended-upgrades"? I was told many years ago > that the command "aptitude" was deprecated. aptitude was deprecated for some very specific uses

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 28 mai 21, 02:44:30, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > The reason is that I find it too drastic a step. I chose to disable by > doing sudo systemctl disable unattended-upgrades. I did delete the > package called 50unattended-upgrades (as mentioned in my original > post.) Installing packages

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

2021-05-28 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hello, Thanks for your help and time. I really appreciate it. > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 2:51 AM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of > software/security updates? > &g

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