Re: Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:55:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: ls -lart /var/log Quote button broken? Posting in my sleep -- forgetting that the subject line is not always exactly visible. So: Re: Handy ls: was Should I install

Re: Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-13 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:45:21PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:55:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: ls -lart /var/log Quote button broken? Posting in my sleep -- forgetting that the subject line is

Re: Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-12 Thread Joel Rees
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Re: Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-12 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:55:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: ls -lart /var/log Quote button broken? -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or tackle Mt Everest in snow, but the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford and tries for 6000 in low. signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: ros...@gmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hmm, I'm not absolutely

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:16 +1000 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: ros...@gmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Do you really want

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/10/2014 6:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: ros...@gmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian-user

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/10/2014 6:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:16 +1000 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: ros...@gmail.com CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 6/10/2014 6:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 07:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: For one thing, I don't think the real JS would send to me as well as to the list. I wouldn't do it on purpose, anyway :) Or send top-posting HTML formatted mails. Or ... The fake to be Jerry wasn't done very good, but it anyway caused

Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:35:15 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:08 +0200, Filip wrote: $ ls -lA I recommend to add the h option. $ ls -hAl t or d sometimes are useful too, but by default I tend to use -hAl. Mnemonic, HAL, resp. HAL 9000 is

Re: Handy ls: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 11:42 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: to find those immense files that were put in the wrong places (downloaded distros mostly) Obsessional neurotics like me don't need to care about such things. It's unlikely that we miss to care about deleting stuff that was randomly

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 18:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: The 'dot' at the start of the filename is how *nix systems traditionally mark a hidden file. Any filename beginning with a dot will be treated as hidden, and any filename not beginning with one won't. To see them in a terminal, the

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-08, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: To see them in a terminal, the command is $ ls -a I prefer $ ls -A -A, --almost-all do not list implied . and .. Why are they (the files) hidden in the first place? Hey, a brief NSA-compatible Google search

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit Thanks I'll do that and thanks for the explanation regarding the binary file If that doesn't work, that result could be a false positive That could be the

Re: Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is impossible, he simply will use another email address. Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the j.stuc...@outlook.com address? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 8/06/2014 4:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is impossible, he simply will use another email address. Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 00:05:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: It is not racism, the meaning is: someone who wants to control the World. That is not just racist, but extraordinarily offensive and laughably inaccurate. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 2:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: As we can see now, killfiling Horatio or banning him from the list is impossible, he simply will use another email address. Jerry, did you notice that there also was sent a mail to the Debian off-topic list, most likely from Horatio, using the

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 14:11:58, Richard Hector wrote: On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing list posts? Why not? Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good starting point, especially since we are using Debian ;) $ gpg

GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/06/2014 1:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: $ gpg --list-sigs EF22341C pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 uid Andrei Mircea POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com sig 3EF22341C 2013-07-28 Andrei Mircea POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com sig DEA22DE9 2013-07-28

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Bzzz
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key signed shouldn't be too difficult. How about Australia? Not allowed: if you sign your e-mails, they'll blacklist you, you'll

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 01:43:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: And the fingerprint? $ gpg --fingerprint EF22341C pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 Key fingerprint = E44E B88C E21B 858E 3639 7AA4 FFC7 8544 EF22 341C uid Andrei Mircea POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com sub

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 09 iun 14, 01:43:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: And the fingerprint? $ gpg --fingerprint EF22341C pub 4096R/EF22341C 2013-07-28 Key fingerprint = E44E B88C E21B 858E 3639 7AA4 FFC7 8544 EF22 341C uid Andrei Mircea

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I don't know any of them personally. That's not necessary, the point of that

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 02:07:46 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: Hello Andrew, Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I don't know any of them personally. You don't have to. So long as there's one close enough to you for it to be

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread John Bleichert
On 06/08/2014 11:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good starting point,

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:53:28 +0200 Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com napísal: On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key signed shouldn't be too difficult. How about

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lucius Rizzo
* Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com [2014-06-08 18:16]: On Sb, 07 iun 14, 22:23:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Joining Debian's Web of Trust would be a very good

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU Okay, not many people listed; I thought there would be many more. I

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 04:05:10PM -0700, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or

[OFF-TOPIC :)] Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/08/2014 08:54 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 04:05:10PM -0700, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 17:53 +0200, Bzzz wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 01:43:28 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: If one is living in the USA or western Europe getting one's key signed shouldn't be too difficult. How about Australia? Not allowed: if

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 1:20 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 09 iun 14, 02:07:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 9/06/2014 1:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU Okay, not many people

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: But hopefully it won't ever come to the point of mattering. It really is silly when people start trying to spoof other people's emails. Chris, It's more than silly. In many countries (including the United States),

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/8/2014 4:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: But hopefully it won't ever come to the point of mattering. It really is silly when people start trying to spoof other people's emails. Chris, It's more than silly. In

Re: [OFF-TOPIC :)] Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Terence
I think this whole thing has gone too far. The response to this trolling cretin has led to a fragmentation wholly unlike the tenor of our normal Debian lists, and, I regret to see, list members whom I hold in general high regard being attacked after their initial attempts to help or intervene. I

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread davidson
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Chris Angelico wrote: ...but I would consider it pretty silly if we had to concern ourselves with the possibility that some other debian-user contributor would show up on our doorsteps with an axe. Hm. We should not have to be considering such ridiculous possibilities.

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 22:05:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I will not sign my emails to mailing lists, however, you're mistaken, several people subscribed to Debian user sign there mails. Those people are not blacklisted, perhaps there are kangaroos or penguins in their kitchen, I don't know, anyway,

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot today, yes the 'infected' warning in chkrootkit still appears after the sysvinit

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 08 iun 14, 22:05:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I will not sign my emails to mailing lists, however, you're mistaken, several people subscribed to Debian user sign there mails. Those people are not blacklisted, perhaps there are

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Joe
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:11:53 -0400 Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 23:37:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please elaborate on this? What should I explain? That signing usually is unwanted? It's usually unwanted, because there is absolutely no reason to sign mails to a mailing

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Jun 2014 at 17:11:53 -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot today, yes the

Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 06:20 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 08 iun 14, 23:37:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 00:22 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please elaborate on this? What should I explain? That signing usually is

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 05:11 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 08 June 2014 22:11:53 Charles Kroeger wrote: next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in front of the .java and .fstab)

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Filip
Joe j...@jretrading.com writes: next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in front of the .java and .fstab) Warning: Hidden directory

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:08 +0200, Filip wrote: $ ls -lA I recommend to add the h option. $ ls -hAl t or d sometimes are useful too, but by default I tend to use -hAl. Mnemonic, HAL, resp. HAL 9000 is the computer in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or relevant? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/14 11:46, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 09:38:40PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Joe j...@jretrading.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? rkhunter will not help an already compromised machine, No antivirus

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? but I agree that Horatio needs to learn, how to inform himself. Self-responsibility is mandatory

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Horatio Leragon
I'm beginning to believe that Ralf is a Nazi-sympathizer disguised as a Jew. From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca lati...@vcn.bc.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 21

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/07/2014 07:38 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: [that on 2014-06-07 at 2:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote:] but I agree that Horatio needs to learn, how to inform himself. Self-responsibility is mandatory when using *nix, so it's better to introduce

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Horatio Leragon
I agree with you, Lisi. It was fine at first and then Andrew McGlashan followed by Jerry Stuckup decided to flame me. From: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Should I install

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:36:39 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:36:39 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:41:36PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/14 11:46, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 09:38:40PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread latinfo
On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or relevant? Lisi Hello Lisi: It is not racism, the meaning is: someone

Killfiling: was Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 15:02:17 -0400 Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 6/7/2014 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:36:39 +0100 Wow, Lisi, I didn't catch that. So many insults, so little time. Needless to say, lati...@vcn.bc.ca becomes my fourteenth

RE: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 15:02:17 -0400 From: jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? I can put up with a few bad types - I just don't let them bother me. But the good information they often have is worth a few idiots to me

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
On 08/06/14 07:02, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The problem with killfiling people like this is you often lose good comments in a discussion. I can put up with a few bad types - I just don't let them bother me. But the good information they often have is worth a few idiots to me. A perfect

RE: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 16:05:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org It is not racism, the meaning is: someone who wants to control the World.If you know a proper word, please go ahead. I really do not know it! It's

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
On 08/06/14 13:48, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Andrew McGlashan comes in a close second whose comments sometimes betray a severe lack of knowledge of Debian. Lack of knowledge of Debian offends you? Isn't that what we're here for, to gain and share knowledge? While I acknowledge I'm not a Debian

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 9:48 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 15:02:17 -0400 From: jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? I can put up with a few bad types - I just don't let them bother me. But the good information

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 9:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 16:05:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org It is not racism, the meaning is: someone who wants to control the World.If you know a proper word

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 9:56 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 08/06/14 13:48, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Andrew McGlashan comes in a close second whose comments sometimes betray a severe lack of knowledge of Debian. Lack of knowledge of Debian offends you? Isn't that what we're here for, to gain and share

RE: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:34:26 -0400 From: sl...@troubleshooters.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? I've got no time for Ku-Klux-Klan types. Me too. I've no patience for idiots like Horatio and people spouting obscenities. Canadians have

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 10:03 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:34:26 -0400 From: sl...@troubleshooters.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? I've got no time for Ku-Klux-Klan types. Me too. I've no patience for idiots like Horatio

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing list posts? Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12

RE: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 13:56:45 +1200 From: rich...@walnut.gen.nz To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? Lack of knowledge of Debian offends you? Isn't that what we're here for, to gain and share knowledge? No, not to gain knowledge. If one wishes

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 10:11 PM, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing list posts? Richard

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 10:13 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 13:56:45 +1200 From: rich...@walnut.gen.nz To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? Lack of knowledge of Debian offends you? Isn't that what we're here for, to gain and share

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing list posts? No, because anyone can put any

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 10:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 08/06/14 14:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Richard, this was NOT my post. This is a fraud. See the headers. Acknowledged. It's sad - do we need to start signing all mailing

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: You can also look at the headers and see where the posting comes from. I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either here or anywhere else. Yeah, the From

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/7/2014 10:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: You can also look at the headers and see where the posting comes from. I agree signing would help - but you're right, I don't know who many people's public keys are - either

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-07 Thread Richard Hector
On 08/06/14 14:17, Jerry Stuckle wrote: But the headers easily show these messages don't come from me. Strictly speaking, they show they don't come via the usual path from you - you could easily have sent those messages if you wanted to :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread David Guyot
Hello, Charles. I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, it's a core package which manages processes launch at boot time. Not surprising it shows you some sort of garbage when you open it in a text editor, it is a binary file and, as such, is designed to be run by your hardware, not to be

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that carries it in their repos. Um, no. chkrootkit is a

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Slavko li...@slavino.sk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? Please do not send mails directly to me! I have not set the Reply-To nor asked for CC to my address

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 6:29 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? as a Sysadmin what do you suggest I can do to rid myself if this? Looking into /sbin/init only

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Filip
Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com writes: On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:30:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: Anyone saying that Debian and its software are flawless lies or doesn't know what's he is talking about. How true. And by the way, I have had

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 6 Jun 2014 02:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com napísal: Please do not send mails directly to me! I have not set the Reply-To nor asked for CC to my address, then please learn how to use and setup your Yahoo mail service properly! I will not provide

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Slavko li...@slavino.sk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? Thanks for sharing your experience in using rkhunter with me. 2, i believe

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com napísal: Thanks for sharing your experience in using rkhunter with me. 2, i believe to the Debian's people, that when some security problem will be discovered, then it will be reported and (possibly)

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Slavko li...@slavino.sk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Should I install

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 21:38 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that carries it in their repos. Um, no.

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Brian
On Fri 06 Jun 2014 at 13:35:38 +0200, Filip wrote: Do you have systemd-sysv installed ? When that package is installed /sbin/init is a symlink to systemd and I have heard that chkrootkit gives false positives for the suckit rootkit with that. chkrootkit gives false positives as a matter of

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread latinfo
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 21:38 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that carries it in their repos. Um, no.

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-06 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 09:38:40PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com napísal: In some countries it a normal government practice. Yeah, my government denies that it is collecting massive amounts of data on its citizens and foreigners. I am not aware about chkrootkit, i am

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:23:15 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net napísal: and was no longer able to maintain his program from jail. It is still around, and you can use it if you want. I think GParted has it as an option, IIRC. And Debian installer (in expert mode) too ;) regards

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread Weaver
On Thu, June 5, 2014 1:34 am, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com napísal: In some countries it a normal government practice. Yeah, my government denies that it is collecting massive amounts of data on its citizens and

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread Bob Holtzman
: Should I install chkrootkit? Horatio, please subscribe to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic too and please, only reply to the list, you missed to take care about the reply to the list only commandment. Yes, Moses. Is this your 11th

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread hohe72
Guess that is the matter: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-2945 --hh Just reposting: Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 06:27:35 + From: mancha manc...@hush.com To: slackbuilds-us...@slackbuilds.org Subject: [Slackbuilds-users] chkrootkit vulnerability Hi. As ironic as it sounds, chkrootkit

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-05 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:30:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: Anyone saying that Debian and its software are flawless lies or doesn't know what's he is talking about. How true. And by the way, I have had chkrootkit installed for a long time and the other day

Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-04 Thread Horatio Leragon
I received a security update advisory [SECURITY] [DSA 2945-1] today. Package    : chkrootkit CVE ID : CVE-2014-0476 I am shocked to learn that Debian is vulnerable to rootkits. That's why there's a package to check for them. I switched to Debian from Microsoft Windows OS because of

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