Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-17 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Stephan Seitz wrote on 16/12/2019 20:50: > On Mo, Dez 16, 2019 at 08:32:01 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? > > Yes, here as well (two testing systems). > > Shade and sweet water! > > Stephan > Thanks for confi

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-17 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 16/12/2019 20:32: > Greg Wooledge wrote on 16/12/2019 17:29: >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >>> $ dpkg -S /pulse >>> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse >>> >>> fails to

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-16 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 12/14/19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:04:34, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: >> > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> >> >> >> does anybody know which package generates

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mo, Dez 16, 2019 at 08:32:01 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? Yes, here as well (two testing systems). Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- |If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it.|

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-16 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Greg Wooledge wrote on 16/12/2019 17:29: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> $ dpkg -S /pulse >> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse >> >> fails to give any clue. >> The directory is generated at boot-time. B

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > $ dpkg -S /pulse > dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse > > fails to give any clue. > The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint in > systemd or udev conf-files

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2019 at 10:04:34 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /puls

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:04:34, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a > >> bug > >>

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a >> bug >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Hello, > > does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a bug > in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages -- Brian.

unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-13 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hello, does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a bug in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. Regards, Jörg.

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 01:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:41:20AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: However, here's the instruction how to build a dummy package for Debian based distros: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html titleAPT HOWTO

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +, Camaleón wrote: aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC. Anyway, we deserve the price to pay (PA can be complex to setup) for having a full-featured

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Adrian Fita: On 18/07/12 02:57, Brad Alexander wrote: [...] Now, I did a little research a couple of weeks ago, and found on the Ubuntu wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/) that they recommend installing several extra pulse-related packages

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 05:53:34PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:57:58 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: (...) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:41:20AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: However, here's the instruction how to build a dummy package for Debian based distros: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html titleAPT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation) - Very useful helpers/title

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:32:26 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +, Camaleón wrote: aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC. Anyway, we deserve the price

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Rob Owens
for per-user sessions ... (warning). And the process is still running: [defiant /home/storm]# ps auxww | grep pulse storm 4756 0.0 0.0 319820 6700 ?Sl Jul09 5:54 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog This is because pulseaudio is running as your user

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:32:26 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +, Camaleón wrote: aRts was ESD's counterpart

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Brad Alexander
/home/storm]# ps auxww | grep pulse storm 4756 0.0 0.0 319820 6700 ?Sl Jul09 5:54 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog So it is probably coming off in the very near term. Thanks Raffaele, --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Raffaele Morelli
... (warning). And the process is still running: [defiant /home/storm]# ps auxww | grep pulse storm 4756 0.0 0.0 319820 6700 ?Sl Jul09 5:54 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog So it is probably coming off in the very near term. this will prevent pulseaudio from

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 17:53 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: I'm just as happy using straight alsa and building a dummy package. I'm a dummy(-package-builder) too, since it's more comfortable, than to rebuild some stuff without PA dependencies,

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
: [defiant /home/storm]# /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop [warn] PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions ... (warning). And the process is still running: [defiant /home/storm]# ps auxww | grep pulse storm 4756 0.0 0.0 319820 6700 ?Sl Jul09 5:54 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
. Sometime along the line, pulseaudio was installed, which broke sound on the old setup. Through my reading, it appeared that pulse behaved better when installed with a clean install. (the old one was about 5 years old.) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2012 schrieb Brad Alexander: So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give Just read this again. I tried to like pulse Yes, I did to. ;) -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Christopher Judd
On Wednesday 18 July 2012 15:50:32 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: Regarding your question of keeping PA or not I would give it a chance, read the official docs¹ and if nothing helps to alleviate the cranky- underwater sound and problems persist I

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +, Camaleón wrote: aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC. Anyway, we deserve the price to pay (PA can be complex to setup) for having a full-featured and advanced sound server with interesting

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Brad Alexander
programs. There are those for beginners and those for the professional. Unfortunately, the rocks and shoals of backend sound plumbing isn't clearly marked. Lennart clearly wrote pulse to address this, but I think it was released too early and adopted too soon. Just my 2 cents, --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 13:42 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: Lennart clearly wrote pulse to address this, but I think it was released too early and adopted too soon. I don't know him personally, but I heard that he shouldn't be an idiot. However, I don't like him ;), maybe you came to the point

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-19 Thread Adrian Fita
On 18/07/12 02:57, Brad Alexander wrote: [...] Now, I did a little research a couple of weeks ago, and found on the Ubuntu wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/) that they recommend installing several extra pulse-related packages. Is it worth it? Will it fix my problems

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:57:58PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: [cut] So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example (there are several I have noticed), when playing music with Amarok

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Ivo Ugrina
On 07/18/2012 01:57 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example (there are several I have noticed), when playing music with Amarok, every time a screen issue

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:57:58 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: (...) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example (there are several I have noticed), when playing music with Amarok, every

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:20 +, Camaleón wrote: I'm very happy with the old ESD And you can be happy for good reasons! However, IIRC for KDE it was aRts and it never caused issues for my jack orientated workflow and pro-audio cards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:41:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:20 +, Camaleón wrote: I'm very happy with the old ESD And you can be happy for good reasons! However, IIRC for KDE it was aRts and it never caused issues for my jack orientated workflow and pro-audio

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2012 schrieb Brad Alexander: Now, I did a little research a couple of weeks ago, and found on the Ubuntu wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/) that they recommend installing several extra pulse-related packages. Is it worth it? Will it fix my problems

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: Regarding your question of keeping PA or not I would give it a chance, read the official docs¹ and if nothing helps to alleviate the cranky- underwater sound and problems persist I would then reconsider my decision. KDE users can be considered

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:20 +, Camaleón wrote: I'm very happy with the old ESD And you can be happy for good reasons! However, IIRC for KDE it was aRts and it never caused issues for my jack orientated workflow and pro-audio cards.

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Brad Alexander
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:57:58 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: (...) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Raffaele Morelli
on the old setup. Through my reading, it appeared that pulse behaved better when installed with a clean install. (the old one was about 5 years old.) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +, Camaleón wrote: aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC. Anyway, we deserve the price to pay (PA can be complex to setup) for having a full-featured and advanced sound server with interesting capabilities regardless we use all of the features or not. The

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Martin, high five :)! If PA is a help, people should use it, if it cause an issue, they shouldn't try to fix it, but getting rid of it. IMO it's not worth to waste time with setting up PA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 17:53 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: I'm just as happy using straight alsa and building a dummy package. I'm a dummy(-package-builder) too, since it's more comfortable, than to rebuild some stuff without PA dependencies, which is possible too. However, here's the instruction

To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-17 Thread Brad Alexander
that pulse behaved better when installed with a clean install. (the old one was about 5 years old.) So I tried to like pulse, tried to get along with it, but I'm having a really hard time with it. I am running sid with kde 4.x, and, to give one example (there are several I have noticed), when playing

Re: To pulse or not to pulse?

2012-07-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Do you need the advantages of PA for anything? If not, nuke it! However, why don't you simply test what happens, if you install PA extension packages? Regarding to media players such as Amarok I'm tired, sometimes I prefer Audacity, Ardour etc. for consuming audio. Yep, no play list etc., OTOH