On Thu, 2022-02-17 at 10:02 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:28:18AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > I wonder who embed Thai fonts and code in the first place..
>
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:28:18AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
I wonder who embed Thai fonts and code in the first place..
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:41:30AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2022-02-17, wrote:
[...]
> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:37:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> >> Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry.
> >
> > In a way, yes. I was trying my best to animate
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:40:40AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2022-02-16, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> > Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry.
> > Great video, though. Thanks.
>
> Actually, I wanted to allude to Stella but should've obviously just
> responded to
On 2022-02-17, wrote:
>
> --Isw399PmXxwTK8QE
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:37:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
>> On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote:
>> > On
On 2022-02-16, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote:
>> On 2022-02-16, wrote:
>> >
>> >> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la=
>> > nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make
>> > the=
>> > m
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 07:05:33AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05 PM
> > From: to...@tuxteam.de
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What
> > is the best course of
Dearie
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:45 PM
> From: "The Wanderer"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> There are a few possible answers.
>
I love reading your answers and
Dearie
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05 PM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> So why not do your research yourself?
>
Honestly I don't know
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:37:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote:
> > On 2022-02-16, wrote:
[...]
> > > So why not do your research yourself?
> > >
> > > ;-)
> >
> > Of course, it’s an excellent question [...]
> >
On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote:
> On 2022-02-16, wrote:
> >
> >> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la=
> > nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make the=
> > m essential dependencies for libpango?
> >
> > So
On 2022-02-16, wrote:
>
>> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la=
> nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make the=
> m essential dependencies for libpango?
>
> So why not do your research yourself?
>
> ;-)
>
Of course, it’s an
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:31:21PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello
[...]
> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer)
> languages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make
> them essential dependencies for libpango?
So why not do your
On 2022-02-16 at 08:31, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello
>> What if someone sends you a document that has one or more words
>> written in Thai? In order to be able to display that document
>> correctly, the computer will need code that knows how to handle the
>> Thai language. Whether that code is
Hello
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:04 AM
> From: "The Wanderer"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
> What if someone sends you a document that has one or more words
On 2022-02-15 at 12:56, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello The Wanderer
>> Do you have any reason to believe that it might? As compared to any
>> other random library that Debian provides.
>
> No, I don't have the technical knowledge to audit libthai. My point
> is that why pull in non-English
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 07:00:59PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
[...]
> > Heck, I remember the times where there was a Germanized version of ASCII
[...]
> Gosh...you have just revealed your age(my father's contemporary perhaps?)
Could well be :-)
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On Tue, Feb 15 2022 at 06:56:28 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello The Wanderer
>
>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:48 PM
>> From: "The Wanderer"
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential
>> packages: What is the best course of
Dearie
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:55 AM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: "Stella Ashburne"
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> Heck, I remember the times where there
Hello The Wanderer
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:48 PM
> From: "The Wanderer"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> Do you have any reason to believe that it might? As
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:35:46PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
[...]
> You are right. I would fix them if I had the knowledge and competency.
Back to the libthai thing. Perhaps it is unfixable nowadays: what shall
a browser do? Look at this harmless page [1]. Somewhere down there is
the Thai
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:26:18PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
[...]
> We have to make allowance for the fact that some people are quick to judge
> others
Right. But we have to make allowance for the fact that no one of us
is right all the time ;-)
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:14 AM
> From: "David Wright"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> But in view of that single letter in your reply, and another
> post on d-u,
Dearie,
Thanks for your reply.
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:48 PM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> Please, hold your horses. Lack of knowledge
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:09:35AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 15 Feb 2022 at 07:48:57 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Please, hold your horses. Lack of knowledge sometimes might
> > come across as "xenophobic" [...]
> Look back: the OP has had plenty of help from me, and may well
>
On Tue 15 Feb 2022 at 07:48:57 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:14:36PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Perhaps the simplest way of answering this is to configure
> > your system with /etc/default/locale file as LANG=C.UTF-8,
> > and unset any specific
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:14:36PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps the simplest way of answering this is to configure
> your system with /etc/default/locale file as LANG=C.UTF-8,
> and unset any specific i18n or L10n settings and see what
> you get. Perhaps try again in 50 years: it
On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 11:18:12 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:02 AM
> > From: "David Wright"
> >
> > Tee-hee. We Brits can sneak our code into Debian without arousing
> > suspicion — we just label it "english". That's when we bother to
> > label it at
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:18:12AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
>
> > Most of it just slips in as the default language
> > of Debian.
>
> Does Debian have a default language? What is it? Latin? Esperanto? American
> English?
>
Probably N. European English as learned in school -
On 2022-02-14 at 05:28, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hi Andy
>
>> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater"
>>
>> Stella (and others)
>>
>> This is apparently a long standing bug from pango1.0
>>
>> Debian bug #565500
>>
>> and has been outstanding for a decade or so.
>
> And why has the decade-old bug not
Hi Andy
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 9:14 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
> Stella (and others)
>
> This is apparently a long standing bug
Dearie
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:02 AM
> From: "David Wright"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> Tee-hee. We Brits can sneak our code into Debian without arousing
>
On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 07:36:55 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello Dearie
>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 8:34 AM
> > From: "David Wright"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What
> > is the best course of
Stella (and others)
This is apparently a long standing bug from pango1.0
Debian bug #565500
and has been outstanding for a decade or so. Thai poses interesting font,
formatting and display properties - if you're not Thai, it doesn't matter
to you, but, as you can see it's fairly well embedded
Hello,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 07:36:55AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > From: "David Wright"
> > Leave it. Worry about bigger issues than the odd library.
> >
> For all you know, the odd library which is this Thai file in
> question may contain poorly designed code, ill-intentioned
>
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 07:31:58AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hello Dearie
>
> I am happy to hear from you again and hope that everything's fine with you
> and your family.
>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:23 AM
> > From: "David"
> > To: "debian-user"
> > Subject: Re:
Hello Dearie
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 8:34 AM
> From: "David Wright"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> Installing those two would add 170 more packages to my system,
Hello Dearie
I am happy to hear from you again and hope that everything's fine with you and
your family.
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:23 AM
> From: "David"
> To: "debian-user"
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of
On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 17:03:06 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> I did a minimal install of LXQt:
>
> sudo apt install lxqt-core lightdm
>
> and discovered that the following two packages were installed as well:
>
> libthai-data/stable,now 0.1.28-3 all [installed,automatic]
>
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 08:33, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > 3. Remove it some sneaky that only removes libthai but leaves everything
> > else the same, and have things break and or apt/dpkg complain.
> >
> Could you show me how to do it please? Thanks.
Hi Stella,
With a small effort, you can try
Hi,
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 12:35 AM
> From: "Bijan Soleymani"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is
> the best course of action?
>
>
> 3. Remove it some sneaky that only removes libthai but leaves
On 2022-02-12 11:03, Stella Ashburne wrote:
What should I do? What is the best course of action?
It seems that basic X windows or GUI apps are compiled with libthai support.
This is probably done in a way that they won't run without it being
installed (failed to load due to missing library).
I did a minimal install of LXQt:
sudo apt install lxqt-core lightdm
and discovered that the following two packages were installed as well:
libthai-data/stable,now 0.1.28-3 all [installed,automatic]
libthai0/stable,now 0.1.28-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
*I do not speak or write Thai*
When I
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