Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-03-01 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > However, it would solve a problem that I had assumed had to be endured. > I frequently have a workflow needing root access for which I don't find > "su" convenient causing me to logout as 'richard' and login as 'root' > and back again. um, i open a terminal window

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-03-01 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > I repeat my question, which has been snipped in this thread. >> What did you do immediately after installation to set this up? >> What should I be reading? >> [If it makes a difference, I use Stretch including systemd.] i generally put my aliases in .bashrc for the

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-03-01 Thread songbird
Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2018-02-28, Dominic Knight wrote: ... >> Maybe upscaling would help a lot here, it does when I output on hdmi, >> with Mate that's >> System - Preferences - look and feel - appearance >> then >> fonts - detail - resolution >> I set mine to around

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-28, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 06:50 -0500, songbird wrote: >> >> the only real negatives of the newer monitor is >> that the scaling of fonts/menus/window sizes is set >> so small and not easily adjustable in the program >> itself that i

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/28/2018 09:34 AM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 28 Feb 2018 at 09:12:43 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/28/2018 08:09 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: Taking [ alias startx='clear; startx -- :0' ] as a hint I looked for a man page for "alias". There wasn't one available

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:34:56AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Googlebash aliases > Top hit: full explanation at > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html > > Is that difficult? You may also run "help alias" inside bash to get the brief help synopsis, since this is a bash builtin command.

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Feb 2018 at 09:12:43 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/28/2018 08:09 AM, John Hasler wrote: > >Richard Owlett writes: > >>Taking [ alias startx='clear; startx -- :0' ] as a hint I looked for a man > >>page for "alias". There wasn't one available locally. I searched >

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/28/2018 08:09 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: Taking [ alias startx='clear; startx -- :0' ] as a hint I looked for a man page for "alias". There wasn't one available locally. I searched and found only a page written in Chinese. "Alias" is a

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > Taking [ alias startx='clear; startx -- :0' ] as a hint I looked for a man > page for "alias". There wasn't one available locally. I searched > and found only a page written in Chinese. "Alias" is a shell command. man bash -- John Hasler

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/28/2018 12:32 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote: [snip] There are three users on my system.  Myself, my wife and my daughter. When the system is booted we each log on and run startx.  I log onfrom tty1, my wife and daughter are on tty2 and tty3.  All it takes to switch from one login to another is

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread Dominic Knight
On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 06:50 -0500, songbird wrote: > > the only real negatives of the newer monitor is > that the scaling of fonts/menus/window sizes is set > so small and not easily adjustable in the program > itself that i have to change my monitor screen size > in order to be able to read

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-28 Thread songbird
Marc Shapiro wrote: ... > There are three users on my system.  Myself, my wife and my daughter.  > When the system is booted we each log on and run startx.  I log on from > tty1, my wife and daughter are on tty2 and tty3.  All it takes to switch > from one login to another is ctl-alt-f1,

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-27 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 02/19/2018 05:06 AM, songbird wrote: you want launchers instead of actually running programs? in this age of SSDs and plenty of memory i can tell you that i get done exactly what you want with groups of programs running in each desired desktop and it doesn't involve me having to wait for

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/19/2018 07:06 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/16/2018 02:51 PM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. i understood you the first time you wrote that. and/or I beg

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-19 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/16/2018 02:51 PM, songbird wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >> ... >>> What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications >>> available in each workspace. >> >>i understood you the first time you wrote that. > > and/or > I beg to differ ;< > > In

fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 09:01:07 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 09:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:42 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. A

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:17 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA As long as we are talking about

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett wrote: > I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. > > What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of > applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. I start it up four desks (similar, I think, to

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA As long as we are talking about icons on the desktop (instead of, for example,

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 05:11 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 04:25 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: [snip

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> Both are good descriptions of what I want. >> If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that >> will accomplish my goal? >> TIA >> > > Maybe KDE "activities" matches

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: The classic Linux desktop -- a

[likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/16/2018 06:32 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. Currently all workspaces have icons to access _identical

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/16/2018 03:41 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 2/16/18, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. i understood you the first time you wrote that. Currently all

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/16/2018 02:51 PM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. i understood you the first time you wrote that. and/or I beg to differ ;< In my initial post I attempted to describe what I

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/16/18, songbird wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > ... >> What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications >> available in each workspace. > > i understood you the first time you wrote that. > > >> Currently all workspaces have icons to access

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > What I would like would be to have differing sets of applications > available in each workspace. i understood you the first time you wrote that. > Currently all workspaces have icons to access *_identical sets_* of > applications. something is set to do that

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/16/2018 10:53 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. ... under

Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. > > What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of > applications available in each workspace. ... under System->Preferences->Personal->Options make sure you have checked

Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Owlett
I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. Currently all workspaces have icons to access _identical sets_ of applications. For example one might