Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-18, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:32:43AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Some people think sex should only be for procreation... Are you procreation or against it? In your case I'm against it. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 01:13:05PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/17/2014 6:10 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Excuse me, but some people think anatomy jokes are distasteful. Some people think sex should only be for procreation... PC police get sooo tiring... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:32:43AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Some people think sex should only be for procreation... Are you procreation or against it? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-15 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-11, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: I don't mean to single out the poster of this comment, because it is something I've seen repeated by several Debian developers and some non-developers. Other forms of it are If you want that fixed, please submit a patch, or the response I got

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-15 Thread Ron
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:45:11 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: I don't mean to single out the poster of this comment, because it is something I've seen repeated by several Debian developers and some non-developers. Other forms of it are If you want that fixed, please submit a

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-15 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can killfile the troll, correct the spelling and grammatical errors of the slothful and the ignorant,

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-15 Thread Ron
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:51:44 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can killfile the troll, correct the spelling and grammatical errors of the slothful and the ignorant,

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-15 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can killfile the troll, correct the spelling and grammatical errors

Re: Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2014 22:53, Miles Fidelman a écrit : On a broader note, Debian, Linux, *nix in general, and FOSS software are a complex and highly-interdependent ecosystem. Yes some people just take, but an awful lot of us contribute in various ways, in various places, to the overall ecosystem - be it

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Keith Peter
On 11 November 2014 19:43, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 11/11/2014 20:21, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Erwan David wrote: Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : When I (or someone else) asks people to show us the code, it's really just shorthand for someone

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 nov 14, 20:43:42, Erwan David wrote: Your email makes me me regretting contibuting by translating doc (a long time ago) otr contibuting bugs... This kind opf stance is completely full of contempt agains non coders. But coders are nothing if nobody uses or test. Might be a

Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - From: _...@debian.org Debian also was always and will always stay technically defined by those volunteering to make it what it is. By extension, it is explicitly not defined by those not putting work (but only words) into it; unmaintained software and code paths

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rob Owens wrote: This type of comment says to me that my contributions to Debian are useless if they are not in the form of code. https://contributors.debian.org/ is everyone who we know has contributed to Debian in one of the ways that we currently measure. [Granted, it's

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Erwan David
Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rob Owens wrote: This type of comment says to me that my contributions to Debian are useless if they are not in the form of code. https://contributors.debian.org/ is everyone who we know has contributed to Debian in one of the

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Erwan David wrote: Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : When I (or someone else) asks people to show us the code, it's really just shorthand for someone needs to do this work, and it currently isn't important enough for me to do it. Asking to provide a patch

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Erwan David
Le 11/11/2014 20:21, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Erwan David wrote: Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : When I (or someone else) asks people to show us the code, it's really just shorthand for someone needs to do this work, and it currently isn't important enough for

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Erwan David wrote: Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rob Owens wrote: This type of comment says to me that my contributions to Debian are useless if they are not in the form of code. https://contributors.debian.org/ is everyone who we know has contributed to

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - From: Rob Owens row...@ptd.net - Original Message - From: _...@debian.org Debian also was always and will always stay technically defined by those volunteering to make it what it is. By extension, it is explicitly not defined by those not putting

Re: Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014,Don Armstrong d...@debian.org mailto:don%40debian.org wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Erwan David wrote: Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : When I (or someone else) asks people to show us the code, it's really just shorthand for someone needs to do this work,