Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2013-11-01 19:39 +0100, Tom H wrote: So the bad variables are still documented in the aptitude docs and the good variables are undocumented except in the changelog. :( There seems to be a misunderstanding, the aptitude

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests false;' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and check whether the behavior changes. Just did the

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-11-01 19:39 +0100, Tom H wrote: So the bad variables are still documented in the aptitude docs and the good variables are undocumented except in the changelog. :( There seems to be a misunderstanding, the aptitude documentation clearly states that Apt::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant is

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 17:38, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests false;' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and check whether the behavior changes. Just did the change: I added a file name

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
First, sorry for breaking the thread, I have removed the mails from my mailing box, so I can not use the reply to longer. So, about the subject, what I said was not complete: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as when I started using Debian. I just discovered this because I marked mpd as automatically

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as when I started using Debian. I just discovered this

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests false;' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and check whether the behavior changes. Just did the change: I added a file name /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/keep_suggests which

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2013 03:51, ruckus rogue a écrit : On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: They have been installed because zonecheck probably needs them ( required ) but if they are recommended by other packages then they will not be removed. I do not think there is

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2013 01:38, ruckus rogue a écrit : On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: I am sorry, perhaps i forgot to mention, that this is my setting. Or, to be more precise, i have shortcut to run aptitude -R. Thanks all for the replies so far, but still a bit

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread ruckus rogue
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: They have been installed because zonecheck probably needs them ( required ) but if they are recommended by other packages then they will not be removed. I do not think there is any solution to fix that. If there is one, I

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Bob Proulx
ruckusrogue wrote: Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? Yes. Autoremove. For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only removed eog,

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue ruckusro...@gmail.com napísal: Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? There are three types of dependencies: + depended = required + recommended = optional + suggested

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:42:18AM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue ruckusro...@gmail.com napísal: Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? There are three types of

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Kailash
On Sunday 27 October 2013 03:17 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:42:18AM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue ruckusro...@gmail.com napísal: Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:47:00 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz napísal: There are three types of dependencies: + depended = required + recommended = optional Unless you explicitly set recommended to optional, then they are automatically installed. I am sorry,

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread ruckus rogue
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: I am sorry, perhaps i forgot to mention, that this is my setting. Or, to be more precise, i have shortcut to run aptitude -R. Thanks all for the replies so far, but still a bit confused. I've always had a 06norecommends in

apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-26 Thread ruckusrogue
Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only removed eog, literally. The dependencies remained. Is that