Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:49:12 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201204111549.12321.lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 17:07:16 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 04 April 2012

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by     default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. ..and

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-11 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 17:07:16 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by    

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: AIUI, no one knows *yet* whether aptitude or apt-get will be preferred for Wheezy until the usual testing takes place near the time of actual release. look at this (from the Debian Project News, 23 Jan 2012)

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 23:43:37 Chris Bannister wrote: One of the keys to plain English is brevity. ;-) http://www.dailywritingtips.com/?p=4904#comment-303296 That is about spelling, not grammar.  Since requires the perfect tense. It is It was supposed to be a joke. :( I didn't

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: That is about spelling, not grammar.  Since requires the perfect tense. It is quite simply wrong in English to say since installs.  Leave out the words since Lenny, and installs becomes correct, but loses some of the intended

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 19:54, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. It is quite simply wrong in English to say since installs. Leave out the words since Lenny, and installs becomes correct, but

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 April 2012 11:28:33 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 07/04/12 19:54, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. It is quite simply wrong in English to say since installs. Leave

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:28:33PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: funny. Now if it was a picture of two hippos in a river... that would make perfect sense. :-) What about the poor hippo who kept swimming in circles after they kicked him off the hippo campus? -- Religion is excellent stuff for

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since Lenny

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:35:00AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 04 apr 12, 02:01:41, Chris Bannister wrote: For a start it is possibly all just hot air unless it is discussed on the debian-doc list and/or a patch submitted against the debian-faq package. I know that you are

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 apr 12, 20:54:47, Lisi wrote: That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. It is quite simply wrong in English to say since installs. Leave out the words since Lenny, and installs becomes correct, but loses some of the intended meaning. Debian

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 21:38:44 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 06 apr 12, 20:54:47, Lisi wrote: That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. It is quite simply wrong in English to say since installs. Leave out the words since Lenny, and installs becomes

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 08:54:47PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 05:34, Chris Bannister wrote: snipped http://www.dailywritingtips.com/?p=4904#comment-303296 You shouldn't have eaten those mushrooms. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:-

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 05:54, Lisi wrote: On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 18:58:07 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 04 apr 12, 11:38:29, Scott Ferguson wrote: My suggestions:- 1. rephrased for clarity, but hardly succint. Note that since Lenny, apt-get installs recommended[*1] packages by default. Beginning with the release of Squeeze[*2], apt is the recommended program to perform system

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 02:38:29 Scott Ferguson wrote: 2. How I'd write it:- Apt is the recommended program to perform system installation and major system upgrades.[*3] 3. To avoid confusion people should read the fine Debian documentation in their native language. :-) +1 Lisi --

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by     default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 19:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 04 apr 12, 11:38:29, Scott Ferguson wrote: My suggestions:- 1. rephrased for clarity, but hardly succin*c*t. Note that since Lenny, apt-get installs recommended[*1] packages by default. Beginning with the release of Squeeze[*2], apt is the

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 20:28, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. ;-) Lisi Even trickier - since Lenny developers have been much more

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended packages by default.  So I believe has is redundant, even though it's correct. What is wrong with : Apt-get will continue to install recommended packages by default. Why,

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. Why? It still does. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald -

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended packages by default. So I believe has is redundant, even though it's correct. What is wrong with : Apt-get will continue to

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 18:58:07 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote:  Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by     default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 19:00:44 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended packages by default. So I believe has is redundant, even though

debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:48:24PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'd suggest this instead: Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages by default and is, for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from console, to perform system installation, and

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 04 apr 12, 02:01:41, Chris Bannister wrote: For a start it is possibly all just hot air unless it is discussed on the debian-doc list and/or a patch submitted against the debian-faq package. I know that you are involved in translations and hence have some influence/knowledge so I

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since     Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform     system installation and major system upgrades. Note that apt-get *has installed* recommended

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform system installation and major system upgrades. Note that