On Lu, 28 mai 12, 02:21:39, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
[snip]
Must read: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
(or as package debian-reference)
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:36:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
play with the source list until
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2012 18:04:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
I seem to remember the Debian Reference has a good guide to pinning and
it is up-to-date (thanks to Osamu Aoki).
Given the OP's confusion, and the fact that he states his
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the code
name when I want to get the more recent
On Sunday 27 May 2012 22:21:39 you wrote:
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 25 May 2012 18:23:37 Tom H wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:
On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
a repo
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:43:45 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
if i use Squeeze (the code name) instead stable, sid or anything.
should i not to worry about system crash? is it what people here mean
to say (who support code name squeeze ) that if i apt-get
On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:06:04 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
i was reading this article and it is very helpful and something new
that i learned but i am a bit confuse. how come i be safe in this
technique because what this article is saying means if i wanted to
install a
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:43:45 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
if i use Squeeze (the code name) instead stable, sid or anything.
should i not to worry about system crash? is it what people here mean
to say (who support code name squeeze ) that if i apt-get
On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the code
name when I want to get the more recent version. So, Squeeze not stable,
Muhammad. you could get in
On Sb, 26 mai 12, 13:39:26, keith wrote:
My understanding is -
If you apt-get upgrade, you are updating your system (squeeze)
When you use apt-get dist-upgrade you change your system from squeeze to
wheezy
No, see 'man apt-get' for the difference between the two.
Kind regards,
Andrei
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:36:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
a repo then i must comment it after
On Saturday 26 May 2012 18:04:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
I seem to remember the Debian Reference has a good guide to pinning and
it is up-to-date (thanks to Osamu Aoki).
Given the OP's confusion, and the fact that he states his main aim as not
crashing, would he not do better to stick to pure
FWIW, sometime ago this book was announced here:
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 19:57:19 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sb, 26 mai 12, 13:39:26, keith wrote:
My understanding is -
If you apt-get upgrade, you are updating your system (squeeze)
When you use apt-get dist-upgrade you change your system from squeeze to
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it
PS:
I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
however, Synaptic is very comfortable.
A history provides information this way:
package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
Note, for the standard
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.
If your repositories are explicit for stable, than there shouldn't
happen an upgrade to testing
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 06:42 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
I'd advise you to back up things and do a fresh install of
squeeze.
things for your current install might be /home only. Perhaps xorg.conf
and some other files, using cp -pr while you're root. But in the future
completely backup using e.g.
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.
If your
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Kumar Appaiah
a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:19 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
cd /path/to/debian_stable
tar czf backup_name.tar.gz *
will clonezilla live CD work in this case? as i am using it very often
and a bit useto with it.
AFAIK yes, Clonezilla should be ok.
now this snapshots point raising one
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.
in a
On Fri 25 May 2012 at 15:57:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
So the question are
1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
Install stable and stick with it. Do not be tempted to alter sources.list
in /etc/apt/
2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:37:16PM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
aptitude update aptitude safe-upgrade [1]
ok it will only update the security patches, no matter if what ever i
write in source.list?
No, this will upgrade any upgradeable
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:37:16 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
[0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
- post the content of your file here.
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/
ok found a website for which generates source.list
http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 14:06 +0100, rjc wrote:
Lenny to squeeze upgrade is somewhat different, you need to have
entries for both of these releases in you sources.list file(s).
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:58 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
ok ill comment the sid repo. but would you please give
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
PS:
I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
however, Synaptic is very comfortable.
A history provides
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
a repo then i must comment it after installing the whatever package
Yesno. I'll say yes,
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 14:49:26, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
A history provides information this way:
package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.
A script using apt, aptitude or dpkg might be able to generate a history
too. I once used
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Instead of e.g.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
use
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.
... but it might catch you unprepared if
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 16:50 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Instead of e.g.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
use
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
Than you'll get stable,
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:45:30, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
A history provides information this way:
package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.
A script using apt, aptitude or
Hi,
Instead of e.g.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib use
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.
... but it might catch you unprepared if you don't follow release
announcements.
And
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:46:50PM BST, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf
You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
using pinning.
You can name the repositories
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 16:45 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
- one will not be aware of any possibly security related updates
Good point
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:57:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 06:42:53AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb
On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
deb
On 2012-05-25 17:53 +0200, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
Is it safe to use stable instead of squeeze?
No, this is very much not recommended.
Are there usually any conflicts or anything what would need
full-upgrade whenever new stable is named?
Yes, about every two years when a new major Debian
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:
On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/
On Fri, 25 May 2012 18:28:29 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
ok found a website for which generates source.list
http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib
On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:38:31 +0100
keith km3...@gmail.com wrote:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
My apologies, I somehow missed that, as someone else has pointed out. Use
squeeze not
On Friday 25 May 2012 18:23:37 Tom H wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:
On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:17:35PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
things for your current install might be /home only. Perhaps xorg.conf
and some other files, using cp -pr while you're root. But in the future
completely backup using e.g. tar. Note, if you sync, you anyway might
lose data, since
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