On Ma, 18 nov 14, 23:12:48, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I still don't think I'm seeing your point. Mail servers, and servers in
general need to be initialized, usually rely on the o/s init system, and
generally come packaged with a collection of init and utility scripts. To
date, every single
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail,
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 18 nov 14, 23:12:48, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I still don't think I'm seeing your point. Mail servers, and servers in
general need to be initialized, usually rely on the o/s init system, and
generally come packaged with a collection of init and utility scripts. To
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse.
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Ummm those are
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse.
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being
Am 18.11.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Ludovic Meyer ludo.v.me...@gmail.com:
Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream.
Maybe drbd?
Then, tell me, is Debian wrong to not use them, or
are the script shipped upstream deficient ?
In fact, you show they are shipping
Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream.
dpkg -l | grep xymon
ii xymon-client 4.3.17-4
amd64client for the Xymon network monitor
17:25:35 weezer:~/src/xymon-4.3.17$ diff /etc/init.d/xymon-client
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts.
Let's take the inverse
Hallo,
* Miles Fidelman [Sun, Nov 16 2014, 02:41:14PM]:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Ummm
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 11.50:25 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts.
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess
what, no systemd service file in
On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and
Le mardi, 18 novembre 2014, 22.10:22 Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Let's take the inverse view: which of these use the upstream
sysvinit scripts directly ? The answer, as demonstrated below, is:
none.
Out of curiosity, how are you comparing these to the init
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per
On Lu, 17 nov 14, 07:29:00, Marty wrote:
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the
source trees, for the
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just went through the
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
snipped I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and
guess what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Did you try Google?
https://www.google.com/search?q=systemd+%2B%22sendmail.service%22ie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=tchannel=sb
What do they know?
Ummm those are NOT systemd scripts shipped by the upstream sendmail
developers. They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point.
Major upstream application developers do not seem to be jumping on
systemd. If anything, what I'm seeing are oh sht, I guess we should
develop systemd
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts.
I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the source
trees, for the
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts.
I just went through the
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the later case, one just has to read:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Looks like we
have our work cut out for us.
Among the
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:50:25 -0500,
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net a écrit :
[...]
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the later case, one just has to read:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the later case, one just has to read:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Looks like
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