Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 13:46, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 08:02 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: [snip] - install SMART utilities and run smartctl -A /dev/your drive -- the first line is usually the raw read error rate -- if the value (last entry on the line) is anything except 0, that's the sign that

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-09 Thread lee
surreal firewal...@gmail.com writes: From today morning i am getting strange kind of system messages on starting the computer.. I typed dmesg and found these messages [  304.694936] ata4.00: status: { DRDY ERR } [  304.694939] ata4.00: error: { ICRC ABRT } [  304.694954] ata4: soft

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: For me a hard disc never gets broken without click-click-click noise before it failed, but it's very common that cables and connections fail. By the time a disk gets to the

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-09 Thread Aenn Seidhe Priest
Looks like controller failure or a broken pin/wire in the cable (more likely). On 09.06.2011 at 20:14 lee wrote: surreal firewal...@gmail.com writes: From today morning i am getting strange kind of system messages on starting the computer.. I typed dmesg and found these messages [ 

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/07/2011 08:02 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: [snip] - install SMART utilities and run smartctl -A /dev/your drive -- the first line is usually the raw read error rate -- if the value (last entry on the line) is anything except 0, that's the sign that your drive is failing, if it's in the

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 08:02 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: [snip] - install SMART utilities and run smartctl -A /dev/your drive -- the first line is usually the raw read error rate -- if the value (last entry on the line) is anything except 0, that's the sign that your drive is failing,

is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread surreal
From today morning i am getting strange kind of system messages on starting the computer.. I typed dmesg and found these messages [ 304.694936] ata4.00: status: { DRDY ERR } [ 304.694939] ata4.00: error: { ICRC ABRT } [ 304.694954] ata4: soft resetting link [ 304.938280] ata4.00: configured

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Ong Chin Kiat
Couple of possibilites: - Hard disk is failing - Insufficient power available for your hard disk, causing it to spin up then spin down again - Controller error - Faulty connection or SATA port The more likely possibilities are 1 and 3. If you can get another hard disk to test, that will narrow

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 16:21 +0800, Ong Chin Kiat wrote: If you can get another hard disk to test, that will narrow down the possibilities ... and before doing this turn off power and disconnect and connect all cables for this HDD on the HDD (power too) and on the mobo. -- Ralf -- To

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
] ata4: soft resetting link (...) What do you have attached to that port (ata 4)? What do these messages mean? What is the solution to prevent these messages from appearing? Help! It can be a bad cable -or bad connection- or even a kernel issue. I mean, it does not have to be a hard disk

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:46 +, Camaleón wrote: It can be a bad cable -or bad connection- For me a hard disc never gets broken without click-click-click noise before it failed, but it's very common that cables and connections fail. A tip: If there's a warranty seal, don't break it, try to

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:46 +, Camaleón wrote: It can be a bad cable -or bad connection- For me a hard disc never gets broken without click-click-click noise before it failed, but it's very common that cables and connections fail.

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: For me a hard disc never gets broken without click-click-click noise before it failed, but it's very common that cables and connections fail. By the time a disk gets to the click-click-click phase, there has been LOTS of warning - it's just that today's disks include

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 09:02 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: For me a hard disc never gets broken without click-click-click noise before it failed, but it's very common that cables and connections fail. By the time a disk gets to the click-click-click phase, A

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011, Miles Fidelman wrote: b. you're running RAID - instead of the drive dropping out of the array, the entire array slows down as it waits for the failing drive to (eventually) respond Eh, it is worse. A failing drive _will_ drop out of the array sooner or later, and it can

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Miles Fidelman
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011, Miles Fidelman wrote: b. you're running RAID - instead of the drive dropping out of the array, the entire array slows down as it waits for the failing drive to (eventually) respond Linux software raid is much more forgiving by

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011, Miles Fidelman wrote: Linux software raid is much more forgiving by default (and it can tune the timeout for each component device separately), and will just slow down most of the time instead of kicking component devices off the array until dataloss happens. Could be

Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-07 Thread Miles Fidelman
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote Re. tuning: How? I've tried to find ways to get md to track timeouts, and never been able to find any relevant parameters. It is not in md. It is in the libata/scsi layer. Just tune the per-device parameters, e.g. in /sys/block/sda/device/* AFAIK, if