Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 09:25:21AM -0800, Sreelal Chandrasenan wrote: Isn't this the same ID10T that had all his email forwarded to the list a few days ago? -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice.

Re: FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Marcum
Oops, my bad, I was reading old messages. -- When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. -- Otto Von Bismarck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to

FW: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-15 Thread Sreelal Chandrasenan
-Original Message- From: Terry Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:27 AM To: debian users Subject: Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry) On Sunday 14 December 2003 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-15 Thread Rich Johnson
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 12:43 AM, ScruLoose wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. Geek chic

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:54 am, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. Hmm. Yes, that's very interesting. I

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:56:45 -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: I accessed this without registering because you provided a deep-link, but normally, Adobe makes you go through a forms process to get this far, AFAICT. Nope. I very vaguely recalled it being available on developer.adobe.com (which

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:50:32 -0600, Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I attended media production classes for staff at Caltech in which making maximum use of these PDF 5 features was *really* pushed hard (sometime last year). No doubt they had also

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet.

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-14 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Monique posts: I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree Should the PDF format be used and recommended by governments? The Govt. of India is calling for opinions and this link is interesting

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:08:45 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well...

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: For a do-it yourself (sort-of) Debian Swirl go to Kinko's (print shop). They do cut vinyl, fairly cheep, bring in a .esp logo from http:// debian.org/logos/. I put one on my work van :) Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. Why eps

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: http://debian.org/logos/ Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. Why eps as opposed to pdf or whatever? Well, for one reason, postscript is an older and more widespread

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:36:10PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: } On Saturday 13 December 2003 12:46 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: } On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 03:00 GMT, Greg Madden penned: } http://debian.org/logos/ } Ooh. I was wondering where to find logos. } } Why eps as opposed to pdf or

PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 20:36 GMT, Terry Hancock penned: Furthermore, PDF isn't really an open data format, just a closed one that turned out to be easier to crack than .doc files. Adobe isn't any nicer about sharing their standards than Microsoft is. The fact that we have good Linux

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 21:00 GMT, Gregory Seidman penned: That is entirely FUD. PDF is no more nor less open than PostScript. Both PostScript and PDF are industry standards developed, promoted, and documented by Adobe. A Google search for pdf specification turns up the Adobe PDF

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 03:08 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Oops. Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. It references some old links from the adobe site, but they seem to have been removed. PDF 5.x is supposed to

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: This is equally true of DOC format, too, though. We *could* adopt some prior version of it as a standard, seeing as several open word processors can handle them already. Many PDFs I get don't display correctly in gv. The

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Nunya
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make a distinction, since the newer versions are incompatible. Or, I could even quote the right paragraph.

Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:11 pm, Nunya wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: It would be conceivable to call PDF 4 an open standard, since Ghostscript can already handle it. But we really ought to make a distinction, since the newer versions are

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more budget-friendly. But tell me, does anyone ever actually wear cufflinks?

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 02:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well... http://scotgold.com/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Stuff_2.html Ah, some neat stuff, and much more

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:08, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well...

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-11 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 December 2003 11:30 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 05:01 GMT, Scarletdown penned: That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well...

ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Monique Y. Herman
I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Scarletdown
On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ -- monique That's pretty cool. I also recommend this site as well...

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Scarletdown wrote: On 10 Dec 2003 at 17:37, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ one can drag solder flux in the debian logo style and

Re: ooh! debian jewelry

2003-12-10 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:37:01PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just found this ... and want it ... bad. Thought some of you might find it of interest: http://www.linuxjewellery.com/catalogue/DBV/ That's pretty sweet. Geek chic to a whole new level! Cheers! --