Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 14/06/11 04:58, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:48:11 +0100, Brian wrote: (...) ATAs may be standards compliant but they are not exactly open. Given that, they can be far more convenient to use in a static situation. Is there any old-fashioned (aka, PSTN/ISDN or hybrids) PBX that is open? (no, Asterik does not

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-14 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:34, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: [...]and ISPs start rolling out VOIP products of their own. [...] Will ISPs start blocking VoIP ports? *evil grin* with the telcos. I heard of one that is basically a wireless PSTN equivalent - no line

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-14 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:28:52 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:34, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: [...]and ISPs start rolling out VOIP products of their own. [...] Will ISPs start blocking VoIP ports? *evil grin* (...) Our ISP carrier

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:52:37 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has How's the sound quality? With standard DSL (10 Mbps/1 Mbps) is very good (sometimes even better that when I use my cell

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Jun 2011 at 11:40:49 +, Camaleón wrote: I use VoIP with Ekiga by means of USB headset (from Plantronics) and works like a charm. I'm so happy with it that I'm thinking in acquiring an ATA converter so I can use any standard phone with it and make VoIP my default calling

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Nuno Magalhães's message of 2011-06-13 00:04:14 +0200: Hi, Not an expert, but skype uses its own proprietary protocol, i think (plus SIP to initiate), so i think you'd need a skype transport on your jabber server. Again, not an expert. Try converting your friends to open

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:19, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: I doubt the situation will get better with skype in the hands of ms. There was a thread about that recently. AFAIK it'll just get integrated into MSN-Live or whatever it's called. My 2¢ Nuno -- Mars 2 Stay! But a

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2011-06-13 11:19, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Afaik the audio codec skype uses is open now, but I too doubt that this goes for the whole protocol. I doubt the situation will get better with skype in the hands of ms. Ok, I didn't express myself clear enough, sorry for that. Forget Skype. I

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:04:14 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: (...) Try converting your friends to open protocols instead ;) [not an easy task, i know] For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Andreas Weber's message of 2011-06-13 12:43:30 +0200: On 2011-06-13 11:19, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Afaik the audio codec skype uses is open now, but I too doubt that this goes for the whole protocol. I doubt the situation will get better with skype in the hands of ms. Ok,

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a standard call. There some good deals in the SIP -- PSTN world but, depending on your country of

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a standard call. There some good deals in the

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 18:58:40 +, Camaleón wrote: Here (Spain) rates for mobile phone calls are still very expensive. There are some bonuses for free calling when you sign-up for some offers but I find that options very limited and restrictive (calls must have place between X and Y

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has How's the sound quality? Any big known SIP providers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/11 04:58, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:41 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 13 Jun 2011 at 14:24:54 +, Camaleón wrote: For those -friends, family, skype-friendly, etc...- I just simply use the low land-line/mobile rates my SIP provider has and place them a standard

Re: psi instead of Skype [OT]

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Scott Ferguson wrote: Both Virgin and Vodaphone have portable wireless products being tested that will compete directly with the telcos. I heard of one that is basically a wireless PSTN equivalent - no line rental, a landline number, data rates, and analogue connection plugs.

psi instead of Skype

2011-06-12 Thread Andreas Weber
Hi list Has any of you experience in using psi instead of Skype? If been using it for years now for chat with huge success, but of course it didn't find the broad mass of users as Skype did. But now times somewhat changed, guess why - you guessed right. ;-) Multi-platform, chat, voice calling

Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-12 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, Not an expert, but skype uses its own proprietary protocol, i think (plus SIP to initiate), so i think you'd need a skype transport on your jabber server. Again, not an expert. Try converting your friends to open protocols instead ;) [not an easy task, i know] HTH, Nuno -- Mars 2 Stay!