Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/13/2010 10:54 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 10:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled ssh vs. telnet: http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure. But it is also way more usable. Password-less

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/14/2010 07:51 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled ssh vs. telnet: http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure.

Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread peasthope
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.ne. Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500 (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) Telnet is used only between machines inside my Shorewalled network. What error(s) are you getting? ETHNO telnetting to

Re: Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/14/2010 01:03 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.ne. Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500 (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) Telnet is used only between machines inside my Shorewalled network. What

Re: Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:03:50AM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.ne. Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500 (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) Telnet is used only between machines inside my Shorewalled

Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread peasthope
From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.ne. Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:53:42 -0500 ... nmap dalton.invalid. Results are consistent with function of services. Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule runs Lenny whereas Dalton runs Squeeze. joule:~# nmap dalton.invalid Starting Nmap

Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/14/2010 03:54 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.ne. Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:53:42 -0500 ... nmap dalton.invalid. Results are consistent with function of services. Doesn't seem so to me. Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule runs Lenny

Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread peasthope
From: Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.or..il Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:45:16 + You try to login (from telnet) as root? Oh no. telnet as a user and then su. Isn't shorewall rather famous for producing not-so-efficient iptabnles rules? Recently it changed from shell based compiler to

Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/14/2010 04:22 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Tzafrir Cohentzaf...@cohens.or..il Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:45:16 + You try to login (from telnet) as root? Oh no. telnet as a user and then su. Isn't shorewall rather famous for producing not-so-efficient iptabnles rules?

Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 01:54:46PM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Results are consistent with function of services. Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule runs Lenny whereas Dalton runs Squeeze. /etc/pam.d/telnet ? telnetd authenticates using login, and hene /etc/pam.d/login ,

Re (4): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread peasthope
From: Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.i. Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:17:56 + /etc/pam.d/telnet ? telnetd authenticates using login, and hene /etc/pam.d/login , right? Right oh; thanks, ... P. -- Carnot is down, waiting for a disk replacement. Personal site works;

telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread peasthope
Does anyone have telnetd working in Squeeze. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Carnot is down, waiting for a disk replacement. Personal site works; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Ron Johnson
(Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) On 06/13/2010 07:51 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Does anyone have telnetd working in Squeeze. What error(s) are you getting? -- There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? On 06/13/2010 07:51 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Does anyone have telnetd working in Squeeze. What error(s) are you getting? -- To

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about them? -- There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/13/2010 10:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about them? Exactly.