the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source
code, the ability to distribute such in a relatively
sane and safe manner.
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
songbird
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To
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:11 PM, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source
code, the ability to distribute such in a relatively
sane
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/11/msg00171.html
On 19 November 2014 14:41, Dan ganc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:11 PM, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
Really ? I thought they were making Debian something quite different from what
it is...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is
On 19/11/14 at 03:41pm, Dan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:11 PM, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source
code, the ability
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 15.47:43 Raffaele Morelli a écrit :
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00014.html
The winners are:
Option 4 General Resolution is not required
For which the complete text [0] is:
The Debian project asks its members to be
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 14:11:18 songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go off-list. Sorry again, Songbird. I
need to press L for the Debian list, not click on reply. And I don't
remember to do it. I'll plead old age, ;-)
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On 20/11/2014 1:11 AM, songbird wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts to continue making
Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source code, the
ability to distribute such in a
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope
that the alternative in FreeBSD works out.
I encourage you to find out sooner, rather than
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 14:11:18 songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go off-list. Sorry again, Songbird. I
need to press L for the Debian list, not click on reply. And I don't
remember to do it.
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 16:49:13 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 14:11:18 songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go off-list. Sorry again,
Songbird. I need to press L for
On 19/11/14 at 05:03pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 16:49:13 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 14:11:18 songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go
On 2014-11-19, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:
How old?
Not to ask milady's age now, in the upper echelons in which we navigate
here, old fellow, n'est-ce pas?
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On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
Subject: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 8:11 AM
the vote is in.
[cut]
My beloved Debian, RIP. Very sad that the ride
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On 20/11/2014 4:01 AM, golinux wrote:
My beloved Debian, RIP. Very sad that the ride will be over when when
Squeeze and Wheezy (and possibly Jessie - jury is still out) get to EOL
. . .
golinux
(soon to be linuxrip)
1
I am greatly
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 20/11/2014 1:11 AM, songbird wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts to continue making
Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source code, the
ability to
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope
that the alternative in FreeBSD works out.
I encourage you to find
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 20/11/2014 4:01 AM, golinux wrote:
My beloved Debian, RIP. Very sad that the ride will be over when when
Squeeze and Wheezy (and possibly Jessie - jury is still out) get to EOL
. . .
golinux
(soon to be linuxrip)
golinux wrote:
On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
Subject: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 8:11 AM
the vote is in.
[cut]
My beloved Debian, RIP. Very sad
On 19/11/14 15:44, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
Really ? I thought they were making Debian something quite different from what
it
Hi.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:44:01AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
Really ? I thought they were making Debian something
On 11/19/2014 09:11 AM, songbird wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source
code, the ability to distribute such in a relatively
sane and safe manner.
kudoes, much
On 19 Nov 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope
that the alternative in
Lisi Reisz wrote:
songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
:)
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go off-list. Sorry again, Songbird.
I
need to press L for the Debian list, not click on reply. And I don't
remember to do it. I'll plead old age, ;-)
i
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope
that
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 13:05:20 -0500, Doug wrote:
On 11/19/2014 09:11 AM, songbird wrote:
the vote is in.
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
a fractious and wonderful expression of free source
code, the ability to distribute
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On 20/11/2014 5:45 AM, Brian wrote:
The vast majority on debian-user see this list as being for the support
of users who *use* Debian and not a talking shop about it. Encouragement
to pervert its purpose is little short of bad manners, no matter
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00014.html
The winners are:
Option 4 General Resolution is not required
I ponder the implications of this vote. I suppose it means that the
current trajectory of Debian's development is held to be
satisfactory. Given this, no new
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 20:55:02 +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:44:01AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
let us thank each one of them for their efforts
to continue making Debian what it is:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:43:22PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The main thing that keeps me on Linux is Xen. Xen Dom0 on FreeBSD would
have me there in an instant.
https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_set_up_a_xen_dom0/
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the
On Thu 20 Nov 2014 at 05:56:41 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
On 20/11/2014 5:45 AM, Brian wrote:
The vast majority on debian-user see this list as being for the support
of users who *use* Debian and not a talking shop about it. Encouragement
to pervert its purpose is little short of bad
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic list[1], which
was set up for these situations.
Thanks
[1]
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 14:06:16 -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00014.html
The winners are:
Option 4 General Resolution is not required
I ponder the implications of this vote. I suppose it means that the
current trajectory of
On 19/11/2014 9:45 pm, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic list[1], which
was set
On 20/11/14 04:01, golinux wrote:
On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
Subject: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 8:11 AM
the vote is in.
[cut]
My
On Mi, 19 nov 14, 14:06:16, Haines Brown wrote:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00014.html
The winners are:
Option 4 General Resolution is not required
I ponder the implications of this vote. I suppose it means that the
current trajectory of Debian's
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 21:54:12 +0200, yoklar wrote:
On 19/11/2014 9:45 pm, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 07:11:17PM +, Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 20:55:02 +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:44:01AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
let us thank each one of
I know I know Debian provides now systemd.
On 19/11/2014 10:01 pm, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 21:54:12 +0200, yoklar wrote:
On 19/11/2014 9:45 pm, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Sorry for top posting
On 19/11/2014 10:34 pm, yoklar yoklar...@gmail.com wrote:
I know I know Debian provides now systemd.
On 19/11/2014 10:01 pm, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 21:54:12 +0200, yoklar wrote:
On 19/11/2014 9:45 pm, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For maony, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope
that the alternative in FreeBSD works out.
I encourage you to find out sooner, rather than later, but
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state of
alternatives.
After 6 years of using Debian, which was pretty much the only OS i ever
used, Gentoo is a good systemd-free alternative for me. Slightly less
comfortable, but a helpful community makes it
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:43:22PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The main thing that keeps me on Linux is Xen. Xen Dom0 on FreeBSD would
have me there in an instant.
https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_set_up_a_xen_dom0/
Well yeah - but NetBSD doesn't have a
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic list[1], which
was set up for these situations.
How about, no.
Please do not CC me, I'm subscribed to the list.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 09:53:49PM +0100, tor...@riseup.net wrote:
I could swear that the Social Contract states:
We will not hide problems
and
Our priority are our users.
of course it does. But posting here about other OSes is not
On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
snipped
The vast majority on debian-user see this list as being for the support
of
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 16:49:13 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2014 14:11:18 songbird wrote:
kudoes, much love, go jessie!
:-)) +1
Lisi
This was intended for the list, not to go off-list. Sorry again,
Songbird. I need to
On 19/11/14 22:08, Scott Ferguson wrote:
[curious] Other than a possible exercise in self-validation - if, as
you've previously stated, *you have ceased using Debian* - why do you
continue posting to Debian user?
Although not his advocate, he could, as myself, be changing all his
boxes to
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 23:12:49 +0300, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 07:11:17PM +, Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 20:55:02 +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:44:01AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:11:18 -0500
songbird
Don't forget, I am also a user. If I felt the project no longer
represented
my interests, I would leave. I would not waste my time or the
project's
by continuing to complain about what might have been.
That sure makes sense. But there might be people who a) are very
emotional about Debian and
On Thu 20 Nov 2014 at 06:57:03 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 04:01, golinux wrote:
On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
Subject: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 8:11 AM
the vote
On 20/11/14 09:41, GypsyRoseLee wrote:
On Thu 20 Nov 2014 at 06:57:03 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 04:01, golinux wrote:
On Wed, 11/19/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote:
Subject: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 16:14:46 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic list[1], which
was set
On 20/11/14 10:16, Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 16:14:46 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not necessarily. For many, it
On Thu 20 Nov 2014 at 10:03:25 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
On 20/11/14 09:41, GypsyRoseLee wrote:
You will surely be aware that our company has the
rights to Fortune Telling throughout most countriea in the world.
(sigh) Yes - obtained by humbuggery and magic tricks.
Stock in
On Thu 20 Nov 2014 at 00:15:04 +0100, Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
snipped
The vast majority on debian-user see this list as
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 10:16, Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 16:14:46 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
No, not
On 20/11/14 10:15, Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the
On 20/11/14 01:04, Brian wrote:
You could create a free software progam which falsely shouts 'fire' over
the public broadcasting system in a crowded theatre. From your point of
view that would seem to be the best of all possible worlds.
None of the people who were told to fuck off shouted fire
Thanks for responding.
On 20/11/14 11:47, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
On Wed, 11/19/14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
wrote:
Subject: Re: the developers have spoken
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 7:25 PM
[cut]
You must be thinking of someone else.
Indeed, after re-reading, I am (Golinux). My
Scott Ferguson wrote:
Thanks for responding.
On 20/11/14 11:47, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/11/14 08:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100,
On 19/11/14 at 04:21pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the d-community-offtopic list[1], which
was
On 19/11/14 at 07:53pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
On 19/11/14 at 04:21pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If you insist then please use the
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
On 19/11/14 at 07:53pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of
On 20/11/14 at 12:49am, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
On 19/11/14 at 04:21pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state
of alternatives.
If
On 20/11/14 at 12:51am, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Raffaele Morelli wrote:
On 19/11/14 at 07:53pm, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 19/11/14 22:21, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Please DO report back.
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