Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 11/03/2015 06:15 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: You mean your suggestion to install Sid? I agree. Suggesting that someone run sid just so that they can have the latest package, is IMHO, very cruel. To someone who runs stable - sure. He's running testing, though, which is more troublesome, in

Re: where does unstable appear from?

Also, not installing the latest version - installing the package at all, as it is absent from testing entirely.

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Tue, 2015-11-03 at 09:06 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > To someone who runs stable - sure. He's running testing, though, > > which is more troublesome, in my experience, then Sid. > > That does not match my experience, at all. Interesting, my own experience is pretty much the opposite. I have

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 2015-11-03 at 09:40, Alex Moonshine wrote: > On 11/03/2015 04:06 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> >> So far, the only structural problem I've had with testing has been >> in the grub-related packages, in the form of longstanding open >> bugs reported by people whose computers became unbootable

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 11/03/2015 05:19 PM, The Wanderer wrote: When tracking sid, the biggest problems you're likely to encounter cannot easily be fixed in-place at all; you're likely to need to reinstall Debian from scratch. I have encountered this twice, and that's more than enough. The latter is, IMO, by

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:40:54 + Joe wrote: > No, it doesn't, sometimes a judicious bit of butchery is required to > clear a dependency jam. I waited for quite a while recently, when > apt-get wanted to rip out a fair number of packages which I use, and > aptitude just

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:40:01 +0200 Alex Moonshine wrote: > > How about waiting a few weeks before dist-upgrading on sid? Solves > all problems just as well. No, it doesn't, sometimes a judicious bit of butchery is required to clear a dependency jam. I waited for

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 11/03/2015 04:06 PM, The Wanderer wrote: So far, the only structural problem I've had with testing has been in the grub-related packages, in the form of longstanding open bugs reported by people whose computers became unbootable after a grub upgrade (which may have been related to the

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 2015-11-03 at 04:07, Alex Moonshine wrote: > On 11/03/2015 06:15 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> You mean your suggestion to install Sid? I agree. Suggesting that >> someone run sid just so that they can have the latest package, is >> IMHO, very cruel. > > To someone who runs stable - sure.

where does unstable appear from?

Thats my sources list: # less /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/

Re: where does unstable appear from?

Testing/unstable is just a common release name for testing AND unstable. Your sources.list is fine. Filezilla package isn't present in testing/stretch (see https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/filezilla). In fact, if you were running sid, you'd be able to install it.

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 10:58:15 +, Andrey Rybak wrote: > thanks for your answer.its very strange for me that it is not possible > to use filezilla in testing. i was using testing brunch in several > years and filezilla was presenting in there. am i right? is it ok if i > will change "testing"

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On 11/02/2015 12:58 PM, Andrey Rybak wrote: thanks for your answer. its very strange for me that it is not possible to use filezilla in testing. i was using testing brunch in several years and filezilla was presenting in there. am i right? is it ok if i will change "testing" to "stratch"?

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 10:20:21 + (UTC) Andrey Rybak wrote: Hello Andrey, >Release:    testing/unstableCodename:    n/awhere does unstable appear I've never been sure myself but, for as long as I've used testing, testing systems have always been labelled that way.

Re: where does unstable appear from?

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 01:46:35PM +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > On 11/02/2015 12:58 PM, Andrey Rybak wrote: > >thanks for your answer. > >its very strange for me that it is not possible to use filezilla in > >testing. i was using testing brunch in several years and filezilla was > >presenting in