Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-09-10 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 8/6/19 12:29 AM, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-06, Ed wrote: On 2019-08-06 09:02+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, whilst I

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Ed Neville
On 2019-08-06 10:31-0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I did, created a user test, logged in, but when I came back to the > machine 10 minutes later, the screen was locked and showing gene as > the default login. dm-tool did work to switch the user. That solves a problem for now. Please don't see

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 06 August 2019 09:22:15 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-06, deloptes wrote: > > Curt wrote: > >> LightDM's dm-tool command can be used to allow multiple users to be > >> logged in on separate ttys. The following will send a signal > >> requesting that the current session be locked and then

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 07:11:04 (+0100), Ed wrote: > On 2019-08-05 16:59-0500, David Wright wrote: > > Perhaps this is all to do with your DM. I use startx, and since > > stretch the Xserver runs "on top of" the VC that started it, and > > as the user, not root. In the past, Xservers ran as root on

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-06, Curt wrote: >> >> it says multiple users - not the same user >> >> > > curty@einstein:~/glimmer$ man dm-tool > > switch-to-greeter >Switch to the greeter suitable for logging into a new >session. > > Says "logging into a new *session*." (emphasis mine).

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-06, deloptes wrote: > Curt wrote: > >> LightDM's dm-tool command can be used to allow multiple users to be logged >> in on separate ttys. The following will send a signal requesting that the >> current session be locked and then will initiate a switch to LightDM's >> greeter, allowing

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote: > LightDM's dm-tool command can be used to allow multiple users to be logged > in on separate ttys. The following will send a signal requesting that the > current session be locked and then will initiate a switch to LightDM's > greeter, allowing a new user to log in to the system. it

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-06, Ed wrote: > On 2019-08-06 09:02+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: >> > >> > How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users >> > share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, >> > whilst I go and

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-06 09:02+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: > > > > How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users > > share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, > > whilst I go and make dinner I want to allow someone

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 16:59-0500, David Wright wrote: > Perhaps this is all to do with your DM. I use startx, and since > stretch the Xserver runs "on top of" the VC that started it, and > as the user, not root. In the past, Xservers ran as root on VC7, > VC8, … Does lightdm or gdm act as your greeter? I

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: > > How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users > share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, > whilst I go and make dinner I want to allow someone else to sit here, > without having to shut applications

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 21:56:55 (+0100), Ed wrote: > On 2019-08-05 13:11+0200, deloptes wrote: > > IMO you can not run multiple X sessions from the same user. I am not > > 100% sure, but I can imagine what would happen with the session > > manager. > > I have done in the past, one 'ed' would run

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 13:11+0200, deloptes wrote: > IMO you can not run multiple X sessions from the same user. I am not > 100% sure, but I can imagine what would happen with the session > manager. I have done in the past, one 'ed' would run xfce and another would run evilwm. However, the majority of

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 09:57-, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > > Hello, > > > > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > > > What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-05, Felix Miata wrote: > Curt composed on 2019-08-05 11:29 (UTC): > >> Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 > >> Fix (Simon says): > >> * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout >> (console is

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 11:11-0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Fix (Simon says): > > > * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout > > (console is cleared anyway nowadays) > > * replacing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console with /usr/bin/reset in > > ~/.bash_logout Why would

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Felix Miata
Curt composed on 2019-08-05 11:29 (UTC): > Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 > Fix (Simon says): > * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout > (console is cleared anyway nowadays) > * replacing the

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text console > 3. run startx and use the window manager for a moment or two > 4. switch back to first session Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 Fix

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread deloptes
Ed wrote: > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text console > 3. run startx and use the

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > Hello, > > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > > What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text console can > cooperate with each other, it seems

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed Neville
On 2019-08-04 20:06-0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Works on 32 bit Buster on host m7ncd here, with one little glitch that > Ctrl-Alt-F3 I've not tried 32bit. I'll get the ISO and give that a whirl. > memory currently lacks any connective dots between >

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-04 22:54+0100, nektarios wrote: > Indeed the problem seems reproducible for debian Stretch with sddm > display manager. > The only logs appearing are from KDE applications (nothing in X11 logs): Could this be systemd? My only thoughts are that systemd starts the x server on a vt, but

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread Felix Miata
Ed composed on 2019-08-04 21:01 (UTC+0100): > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread nektarios
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 18:36:44 -0400 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/4/19, nektarios wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:01:57 +0100 > > Ed wrote: > >> > >> What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text console > >> can cooperate with each other, it seems limited to lightdm/gdm > >>

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/4/19, nektarios wrote: > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:01:57 +0100 > Ed wrote: >> >> What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text console >> can cooperate with each other, it seems limited to lightdm/gdm logins >> only. >> >> Something happened between jobs which meant I didn't need

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/4/19, Ed wrote: > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text console > 3. run startx

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread nektarios
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:01:57 +0100 Ed wrote: > Hello, > > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2.

x and virtual consoles

2019-08-04 Thread Ed
Hello, For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: 1. log in via lightdm/gdm 2. switch to a text console 3. run startx and use the window manager

Re: Install problems: X and virtual consoles

2001-03-07 Thread Eric Richardson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Type 'linux single' at the LILO prompt (press Shift to get the prompt). You'll boot into single user mode. This is what I needed. To remove the X/Gnome display manager from your startup scripts, try '/etc/init.d/xdm' remove (or '/etc/init.d/gdm remove' if you're

Re: Install problems: X and virtual consoles

2001-03-07 Thread ocorrain
I selected xdm on install but loaded the gnome packages on install. I want to run Gnome so how do I get gdm and remove xdm? apt-get install gdm? Precisely. It should remove xdm and substitude gdm seamlessly... Cheers Tiarnan

Re: Install problems: X and virtual consoles

2001-03-07 Thread Eric Richardson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I selected xdm on install but loaded the gnome packages on install. I want to run Gnome so how do I get gdm and remove xdm? apt-get install gdm? Precisely. It should remove xdm and substitude gdm seamlessly... Wow, I like this Debian stuff. Thanks for the

Install problems: X and virtual consoles

2001-03-06 Thread Eric Richardson
Hi, I don't know if this is because of a laptop keyboard or what but since my X setup doesn't work I can't do anything after boot. I try the ctrl-alt-bs to kill the x server and that doesn't work. I also try ctrl-alt-f2 etc to get a virtual console so I can kill X and that doesn't work. What is

Re: Install problems: X and virtual consoles

2001-03-06 Thread ocorrain
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 03:26:04PM -0700, Eric Richardson wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is because of a laptop keyboard or what but since my X setup doesn't work I can't do anything after boot. I try the ctrl-alt-bs to kill the x server and that doesn't work. I also try ctrl-alt-f2 etc to