Re: Je ne comprends les resultats de du et df

2013-09-27 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le jeudi 26 septembre 2013 à 17:52, jerome moliere a écrit : merci bien Belaid, la man page conforte ta reponse.Je ne savais pas que le systeme se reservait de la place en cas de plantageMais bon je ne vois pas ce qu'il irait ecrire dans mon /home . je vais tenter un coup de

Re: Probleme Gnome et Dualhead Radeon HD 4850 avec fglrx sur Wheezy

2013-09-27 Thread Hugues MORIN
Bonjour Merci andre pour ta reponse. Au niveau des drivers je dois avoir la meme chose meme si je ne suis pas passe par le site d'ATI Cela fonctionne tres bien sur un seul ecran mais j'ai 2 ecrans (1 principal en face de moi et un secondaire sur la gauche) Je pense que mon probleme vient du xorg

Re: Changement de webmail (dérivé de Re: HS : de la mailing list)

2013-09-27 Thread maderios
On 09/26/2013 09:47 PM, Stéphane GARGOLY wrote: Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le 26 septembre 2013 10:42, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : Il faudrait peut-être signaler à La Poste que leur publicité/spam insérée de force dans les mail dessert le Service

Re: Probleme Gnome et Dualhead Radeon HD 4850 avec fglrx sur Wheezy

2013-09-27 Thread andre_debian
Hugues, Je n'ai qu'un moniteur donc c'est plus simple évidemment :-) As tu essayé avec d'autres bureaux : kde, xfce ... ? (savoir si le désordre est spécifique au bureau Gnome). andré On Friday 27 September 2013 11:00:50 Hugues MORIN wrote: Merci andre pour ta reponse. Au niveau des drivers

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:09:12 +0200 (CEST), chris21.r...@free.fr a écrit : Le projet J'ai l'inux vise à proposer une distribution Linux capable de filter les contenus notamment pornographiques, pour une utilisation à l'école. Une distribution Linux-DRM ? Il y en a qui vont se retourner dans

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread andre_debian
Bonjour Chris21, Cette distribution GNU/Linux en gestation pourrait être plutôt proposée à l'Éducation Nationale pour les écoles, à l'enseignement catholique (ils seront très intéressés), La foi déplace des montagnes. En tant que chrétien, je suis très sensible aux poissons d'avril qui ont

Re: Probleme Gnome et Dualhead Radeon HD 4850 avec fglrx sur Wheezy

2013-09-27 Thread Hugues MORIN
Salut Non je n'ai pas essaye. Il doit bien y avoir une raison a ce bug et donc ... une solution Je pense que le probleme de gnome doit etre reparable. Cordialement Hugues Le 27 septembre 2013 11:17, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Hugues, Je n'ai qu'un moniteur donc c'est plus

Re: IPV6 : renouveler adresse

2013-09-27 Thread Angus Frinc
Bonjour, Le 24/sept. - 12:20, Christophe a écrit : Le 24/09/2013 11:52, Angus Frinc a écrit : en double connectivité IPv4 et IPv6, je cherche un moyen de renouveler mon adresse IPv6 (quand celle-ci est perdu, pourquoi je la perd, c'est aussi une question que je me pose). Quel est

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas
Le 27-09-2013 13:06, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Bonjour Chris21, Cette distribution GNU/Linux en gestation pourrait être plutôt proposée à l'Éducation Nationale pour les écoles, à l'enseignement catholique (ils seront très intéressés), Dans l'académie de Caen (entre autre), tous

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Txo
Le Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:37:43 +0200, Nicolas nico...@tycho.fr a écrit : Dans l'académie de Caen (entre autre), tous les collèges et les lycées sont équipés de serveurs de fichiers samba (samba-edu 3) et de LCS (linux communication system). Les parcs sont assez hétéroclites avec une

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 27 September 2013 15:37:43 Nicolas wrote: Le 27-09-2013 13:06, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Bonjour Chris21, Cette distribution GNU/Linux en gestation pourrait être plutôt proposée à l'Éducation Nationale pour les écoles, à l'enseignement catholique (ils seront très

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:47:18 +0200, Txo txo...@free.fr a écrit : Un peu de liberté ? On est dans un contexte académique, pas à la maison. Après on peut aussi utiliser les mêmes outils sur son serveur. On peut aussi passer du temps qui serait utile à autre chose, toujours dans un contexte

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread chris21 . roux
L'idée de J'ai l'inux est de filtrer les contenus en analysant les contenus et pas en se basant sur une liste de sites prédéfinis. Ce n'est pas la panacée, mais c'est complémentaire. - Mail original - De: andre debian andre_deb...@numericable.fr À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

Re: Changement de webmail (dérivé de Re: HS : de la mailing list)

2013-09-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:10:59 +0200, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : Si tout le monde suivait ton raisonnement, la démocratie se porterait très très mal. Pourquoi signer des pétitions, pourquoi signaler un bug, pourquoi voter, puisque chaque citoyen ne représente qu'une petite voix? On

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Denis Mugnier
Le 27/09/2013 17:01, chris21.r...@free.fr a écrit : L'idée de J'ai l'inux est de filtrer les contenus en analysant les contenus et pas en se basant sur une liste de sites prédéfinis. Ce n'est pas la panacée, mais c'est complémentaire. Comment peut on filtrer une image, un film sur son contenu

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas
Le 27-09-2013 15:47, Txo a écrit : Le Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:37:43 +0200, Nicolas nico...@tycho.fr a écrit : Dans l'académie de Caen (entre autre), tous les collèges et les lycées sont équipés de serveurs de fichiers samba (samba-edu 3) et de LCS (linux communication system). Les parcs sont assez

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas
Le 27-09-2013 17:01, chris21.r...@free.fr a écrit : L'idée de J'ai l'inux est de filtrer les contenus en analysant les contenus et pas en se basant sur une liste de sites prédéfinis. Ce n'est pas la panacée, mais c'est complémentaire. L'idée de squid, squidguard, c'est d'analyser le contenu

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Jacques Lav!gnotte.
Le 27/09/2013 18:03, Denis Mugnier a écrit : [...] ? comment un programme pourra imaginer le contenu d'une image qui s'appelle 156612.jpg ? Facile, le nom du fichier se décompose ainsi : [1566] 12 (5+1)66 - 666 1566 [12] 2+1 = 3 On trouve donc le Nombre de la Bête suivi de la Sainte

Re: CD live Debian

2013-09-27 Thread moi-meme
Le Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:50:01 +0200, Georges a écrit : 1- je veux montrer Debian à l'aide de mon portable sur lequel sont installés Wheezy, Jessie, SID a des Windosiens. (et un autre portable en double boot Windaube et Linux) 2- je veux leur montrer qu'on peu utiliser un CD pour tester

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Yves Rutschle
Pour développer le filtreur, un nouveau langage, Pmal, est à créer. Super projet, et tes idées pour ce nouveau langage sont géniales. Mais je pense que pour faire un filtrage vraiment sécurisé, il faut aller plus loin: concevoir un processeur qui intègre des garanties en matériel qu'il est

Re: IPV6 : renouveler adresse

2013-09-27 Thread Christophe
Bonsoir, Le 25/09/2013 10:15, Angus Frinc a écrit : Certains de mes PCs sont avec une adresse IPv6 static (mise dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces, dans la section iface eth0 inet6 static) et les routes sont configurées par le routeur : # configuration des PCs en semi-static :

Re: IPV6 : renouveler adresse

2013-09-27 Thread Christophe
Bonsoir, Le 27/09/2013 15:16, Angus Frinc a écrit : Routeur en OpenWRT derrière un modem/routeur en mode bridge, enfin, en modem tout simple. D'ailleurs, j'aimerai bien m'acheter mon propre modem, si possible compatible VDSL2, vous en avez à conseiller, avec un firmware ami du Libre ? Je sais

Re: CD live Debian

2013-09-27 Thread honeyshell
Bonsoir la team, Pourquoi pas www.mageia.org? Comme tu souhaites du français, c'est un beau projet français!

Re: Changement de webmail (dérivé de Re: HS : de la mailing list)

2013-09-27 Thread Christophe
Bonsoir, Le 26/09/2013 21:30, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit : L'interface de Gmail donne plus de possibilités (par rapport à celui de mon précédent webmail) mais il semble moins simple à utiliser. Mais bon, avec la pratique, j'arriverai bien par m'habituer à mon nouveau webmail. Ca n'a juste

Re: CD live Debian

2013-09-27 Thread Johnny B
Hello, Encore mieux : http://distrowatch.com/ puis tu fais plouf plouf Le 09/27/2013 09:15 PM, honeyshell a écrit : Bonsoir la team, Pourquoi pas www.mageia.org http://www.mageia.org? Comme tu souhaites du français, c'est un beau projet français!

Re: [HS] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury

2013-09-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:03:21 +0200, Denis Mugnier myo...@orange.fr a écrit : Comment peut on filtrer une image, un film sur son contenu de façon automatique ? comment un programme pourra imaginer le contenu d'une image qui s'appelle 156612.jpg ? Bon courage pour ton projet ;o) C'est

Re: Instalar Grub encima de otro Grub

2013-09-27 Thread Usuario Lista
El día 26 de septiembre de 2013 16:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:08:42 +0200, Usuario Lista escribió: en mi disco tengo varias distribuciones linux instaladas y todas las inicio con el grub instalado de una ubuntu. Ahora quiero instalar el grub de mi debian.

Re: Problema con locale

2013-09-27 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 25 de septiembre de 2013 16:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:53:37 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, he definido locale para usar es_ES.UTF-8. El problema es que necesito definirla también para es en alias, que ya está, de tal forma que cuando

Re: Error dominio con google mail y envio local

2013-09-27 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:13:25 -0400, Robert J. Briones C. escribió: Estimados. Ese html... Tengo un servidor con postfix bajo ISPCP Omega, que trabaja con dominios virtuales. Cree un dominio y asigne los DNS del MX a google. host dominio.com Si vas a utilizar un dominio inventado,

Re: Instalar Grub encima de otro Grub

2013-09-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:40:25 +0200, Usuario Lista escribió: El día 26 de septiembre de 2013 16:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) En cualquier caso, para instalarlo sólo tienes que tener en cuenta dónde se encuentra actualmente GRUB (en el MBR o en una partición) y dependiendo

Re: Problema con locale

2013-09-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:37:13 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 25 de septiembre de 2013 16:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Sin embargo, desde el nuevo server: root@pc:~# php -r 'var_dump(setlocale(LC_ALL, es));' bool(false) Y tiene aparentemente todo igual...Qué se

Re: tarjeta sonido para servidor

2013-09-27 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
... si lo quieres usar para la multimedia o como estación de trabajo con entorno gráfico, etc. Si, hay que sacar provecho a las prestaciones que tiene el servidor y más que allí tengo una sala de vídeo conferencia. A veces las cosas no funcionan en una otra computadora y ahí se tiene el recurso.

Re: Instalar Grub encima de otro Grub

2013-09-27 Thread Usuario Lista
El día 27 de septiembre de 2013 15:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:40:25 +0200, Usuario Lista escribió: El día 26 de septiembre de 2013 16:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) En cualquier caso, para instalarlo sólo tienes que tener en cuenta

Re: Instalar Grub encima de otro Grub

2013-09-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:47:25 +0200, Usuario Lista escribió: El día 27 de septiembre de 2013 15:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Sí, es muy extraño. Supongo que el GRUB de Ubuntu es reconocible a simple vista por los dibujitos que pinta ¿no? Bueno, no es ubuntu pata negra.

Re: Instalar Grub encima de otro Grub

2013-09-27 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 27 de septiembre de 2013 11:47, Usuario Lista usuario.foros.lis...@gmail.com escribió: El día 27 de septiembre de 2013 15:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:40:25 +0200, Usuario Lista escribió: El día 26 de septiembre de 2013 16:18, Camaleón

Problema Extraño CUPS y OKI 320 Turbo

2013-09-27 Thread Robert J. Briones C.
Estimados. Tengo una impresora OKI 320 que funcionaba sin problemas en CUPS y la ocupaba para imprimir PDF que son configurados de manera automaticos por PHP (facuras). El problema surgio cuando pase de squeeze a wheezy. La impresora imprime, una vez, o varias veces bien, pero de un momento a

Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread chillanaperez
Me pueden indicar el soporte de hardware de el kernel 3.2 ? Afectuosamente, APGInnova Desarrollo Tecnológico 2013. www.apginnova.com www.recuperatuinformacion.cl -- Fono:72759604 / +56 42-2464010. Headquarter (HQ) Casa Matriz Vega de Saldías

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread Walter Herrera
Buenas, no existe una lista o una base de datos con dicha informacion, en todo caso tienes que fijarte si cada componente esta soportado por el kernel que quieras instalar. saludos. Walter Herrera Servicios informaticos software Libre. El 27 de septiembre de 2013 15:30,

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread jors
On 27/09/13 20:30, chillanaperez wrote: Me pueden indicar el soporte de hardware de el kernel 3.2 ? Afectuosamente, Por Internet puedes encontrar varios recursos: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://linuxhcl.com/

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread Francisco Del Roio
El 27/09/2013 03:30 p.m., chillanaperez escribió: Me pueden indicar el soporte de hardware de el kernel 3.2 ? Afectuosamente, APGInnova Desarrollo Tecnológico 2013. www.apginnova.com http://www.apginnova.com www.recuperatuinformacion.cl

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread Guido Ignacio
El día 27 de septiembre de 2013 15:36, Francisco Del Roio franci...@openmailbox.org escribió: El 27/09/2013 03:30 p.m., chillanaperez escribió: Me pueden indicar el soporte de hardware de el kernel 3.2 ? WTF... No te entiendo, si me hablás de soporte de hardware, te puedo decir que hay

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread chillanaperez
La pregunta iva un poco más elevada . Gracias , ya fue resuelto el problema. Afectuosamente, APGInnova Desarrollo Tecnológico 2013. www.apginnova.com www.recuperatuinformacion.cl -- Fono:72759604 / +56 42-2464010. Headquarter (HQ) Casa Matriz

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread Antoni Bella Pérez
El Divendres, 27 de setembre de 2013, a les 15:01:28, chillanaperez va escriure: La pregunta iva un poco más elevada . Gracias , ya fue resuelto el problema. Afectuosamente, APGInnova Desarrollo Tecnológico 2013. www.apginnova.com www.recuperatuinformacion.cl

Re: Versión del Kernel soporte

2013-09-27 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:30:39 -0400 chillanaperez chillanape...@gmail.com escribió: Me pueden indicar el soporte de hardware de el kernel 3.2 ? si Afectuosamente, APGInnova Desarrollo Tecnológico 2013. www.apginnova.com www.recuperatuinformacion.cl

Análisis de transmisión de paquetes de red

2013-09-27 Thread Miguel Matos
Saludos a la lista. Quisiera saber si hay algún comando, o programa, que permita analizar la transmisión de paquetes de red, porque hay veces que mi navegador detiene la carga, no carga bien las páginas o se ven feas... Caso particular los juegos de Zynga... y es incómodo eso. ¿No les ha pasado

Re: Análisis de transmisión de paquetes de red

2013-09-27 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2013/9/27 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com: Saludos a la lista. Quisiera saber si hay algún comando, o programa, que permita analizar la transmisión de paquetes de red, porque hay veces que mi navegador detiene la carga, no carga bien las páginas o se ven feas... Caso particular los juegos

[off-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread Alberto Y. Fujihira
Há 30 anos, em 27/09/1983, Richard Stallman anunciou o projeto GNU. Maiores informações: https://www.gnu.org/gnu30/

Fw:Aluna e pega tranzando em escola,

2013-09-27 Thread rogerio
  http://g1.globo.com/planeta-bizarro/noticia/2013/09/professor-e-pego- fazendo-sexo-com-aluna--na-secretaria.html2:09 PM

Re: [off-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread Flavio M Matsumoto
Opa! Parabéns a GNU e a todos nós! Aliás, é o off-topico mais on-topic que eu já vi. ;-) -- Prof. Dr. Flávio M. Matsumoto UFPR - ET - Departamento de Química Caixa Postal 19050, 81531-980, Curitiba, PR. Linux user #66569 (http://linuxcounter.net/user/66569.html) Em Sex, Setembro 27, 2013 11:16

Re: [off-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues
opa... baita data! e reintero Aliás, é o off-topico mais on-topic que eu já vi. ;-) Em 27 de setembro de 2013 12:32, Flavio M Matsumoto fmats...@ufpr.brescreveu: Opa! Parabéns a GNU e a todos nós! Aliás, é o off-topico mais on-topic que eu já vi. ;-) -- Prof. Dr. Flávio M. Matsumoto UFPR

Re: [off-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro
3 décadas será que é o sistema operacional de computadores 'mais antigo' em utilização? GNU, o mais antigo existindo será? Há 30 anos, em 27/09/1983, Richard Stallman anunciou o projeto GNU. Maiores informações: https://www.gnu.org/gnu30/ -- coragem é contagiosa Investir em gente, na

Re: [on-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 12:53 -0300, Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues wrote: opa... baita data! e reintero Aliás, é o off-topico mais on-topic que eu já vi. ;-) Em 27 de setembro de 2013 12:32, Flavio M Matsumoto fmats...@ufpr.brescreveu: Opa! Parabéns a GNU e a todos nós! Aliás, é

Re: [off-topic] Aniversário de 30 anos de GNU

2013-09-27 Thread Pogorelsky
Para mim Stallmann tinha que ganhar o prêmio Nobel do ajudar todo mundo sem se meter na vida de ninguém. Jack Pogorelsky Junior *Engº Mecânico (CREA-RS 136845)* Tel: +55 (51) 8124-8132 Blog: http://www.pogorelsky.net/blog Site: http://www.pogorelsky.net http://www.pogorelsky.net/ E-mail:

Fw:Aluna e pega tranzando em escola,

2013-09-27 Thread contato
  http://g1.globo.com/planeta-bizarro/noticia/2013/09/professor-e-pego- fazendo-sexo-com-aluna--na-secretaria.html1:03 AM

Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Deckardbot
Olá pessoal, Uso Debian stable ja faz um tempinho e sempre foi muito bom. Porem, agora necessito de pacotes mais atualizados, mas ainda não saberia me virar com tantas instabilidades, não tenho muito conhecimento. Então minha dúvida é se devo usar o Debian unstable ou melhor partir para outra

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro
Vc podia ir pra versão testing? Basicamente vc tem que lidar com possíveis errinhos indesejados poderão acontecer. Aprender-a-lidar ;) Olá pessoal, Uso Debian stable ja faz um tempinho e sempre foi muito bom. Porem, agora necessito de pacotes mais atualizados, mas ainda não saberia me virar

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Pogorelsky
Dependendo da necessidade de atualização de pacotes tem que ser o Ubuntu atual (13.04). A versão 12.04 LTS do Ubuntu está parelha com o Debian estável. O Gimp por exemplo está mais atualizado no meu Debian estável que no meu Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. O mais garantido é sempre ter uma partição com

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Deckardbot
Obrigado pelas respostas. Eu até pensei em utilizar o Debian testing, porem tem o seguinte caso: Desejo utilizar o programa Bitcoin, mas não tem no Debian testing. Já no Debian unstable e no Ubuntu 13.04 possuem o pacote bitcoin-qt. Agora surgem outras duvidas: Se as versões LTS do Ubuntu são

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Gustavo
Estude o APT amigo. Você não precisa ir para a versão testing só porque precisa de alguns pacotes mais atuais. E se quer estabilidade não use Ubuntu. att Gustavo Em 2013-09-27 22:39, Deckardbot escreveu: Olá pessoal, Uso Debian stable ja faz um tempinho e sempre foi muito bom. Porem, agora

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Deckardbot
Oi Gustavo, É, estou tentando evitar ir para o Ubuntu (ou mesmo o Mint Debian) e usar melhor as versões do Debian. Mas de qualquer forma eu não teria que adicionar o repositório testing ou unstable no sources.list para instalar pacotes atualizados? Acredito que mexer com o APT seria isso ai... A

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Samuel Henrique
Olá! Amigo, sugiro que você faça uma leitura sobre as diferenças entre o Debian Stable, Testing, Unstable e Experimental[1]. Pois vai lhe ajudar a entender o meu texto. Antes de começar, é necessário esclarecer um mau entendido; a priori, *os pacotes* das versões do Ubuntu que são LTS vêm direto

Re: Quero usar o Debian mas com pacotes mais atualizados

2013-09-27 Thread Gustavo
Sim, mas pode fazer isto num sistema misto onde você possa determinar se quer o pacote de uma versão ou de outra. Crie se não existir o arquivo /etc/apt/apt.conf Adicione nele: APT::Default-Release versão; Depois: apt-get -t distribuição install pacote Ou: apt-get install pacote=versão Leia

Yan: Yan: Edup ED-199 Wifi Güçlendirici

2013-09-27 Thread Gökhan Öztürk
firmware-ralink paketini yükledim. Hiç bir ayar yapmadan güçlendiricimi otomatik tanıdı. Kimden: Remzi AKYÜZ linuxli...@gmail.com Kime: Gökhan Öztürk reveler...@yahoo.com Gönderildiği Tarih: 27 Eylül 2013 0:28 Cuma Konu: Re: Yan: Edup ED-199 Wifi Güçlendirici

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 22:33 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 26 September 2013 16:57:34 Regid Ichira wrote: I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope people will also pay attention to my previous message in the thread. At

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 18:03 -0400, Rhiamom wrote: I am very glad the list is not being spammed. Now to figure out why I am getting half a dozen incomplete emails and three or so complete emails of each one I send to the list. Only mail to the list is affected. But it is likely an Apple Mail

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable manner anymore. This device name assignment can change from one

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 21:18 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla upstream versions. Correct! So why are you

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else relevant)? Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to Debian, Ubuntu

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else relevant)? Building older and current

Re: Installation of tdsodbc triggers removal of KDE due to dependency on libiodbc2

2013-09-27 Thread Hans Linkels
Benedict Verheyen benedict.verheyen at gmail.com writes: I wanted to give some feedback on the problem. I used the equivs package to work around the dependency of soprano-daemon on libiodbc2. Installing tdsodbc no longer triggered a gnome removal. Would have been *really* useful if you

maven + native library + osgi + bundle + eclipse

2013-09-27 Thread lina
Hi, I have spent one week trying to fix a problem, about how to integrated the .dll library from one java package to another OSGI based package and build it as one plugin. I have went through, nearly all I can find from google, still very very confused. I wonder any of you, can help me go

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/26/2013 12:34 PM, Doug wrote: On 09/26/2013 01:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: /very large snip/ I just left this final section to illustrate the tome of the whole

Re: DEVTMPFS, DEVTMPFS_MOUNT, custom no initrd kernel, udev 175-7.2 and 204-4

2013-09-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 27.09.2013 04:40, schrieb Tom H: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote: The following's what I've understood from #722604... In view of http://bugs.debian.org/722580 and http://bugs.debian.org/722604: A machine with: - a custom, non initrd,

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know. Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails Switching regulator MOSFETs provide the 3.3, 5/5VSB, and 12VDC output current of a PC PSU. Before the days of waffle iron CPUs and GPUs, PSUs had a single 12V regulator

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/26/2013 9:57 PM, Beco wrote: Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else relevant)? This depends entirely on what you

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to Debian, Ubuntu or Arch Linux defaults takes around 90 minutes (in the past perhaps a little bit less and today perhaps around 120 minutes, I need to check

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to spare...) Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: How long a considered fast

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 07:36 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: It simply makes wiring your PC more difficult, as you have to balance your 12V devices across an arbitrary boundary placed across the 12V output current of your power supply. And of course, now you should be asking yourself, given what

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: On a 2.4 GHz i7-4700MQ laptop with 16 GB of RAM (sorry Stan!) The question is, if more cores and more RAM really make a difference for averaged desktop usage. AFAIK more cores and RAM should be important for video production, but for averaged

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'd call it obscure rather than magical. Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my apologies to Arthur C. Clark). :)

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: The formatting of your mails also is very unusual ^^. I suspect an issue with your mailers, Apple Mail (2.1510) and iPad Mail (11A465). The spamming of myself seems to have stopped. I did nothing to cure

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: it may be an iOS 7 bug Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Markus Falb
On 27.Sep.2013, at 16:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: it may be an iOS 7 bug Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad. Tell us when you realize that you got duplicate copies ;-) -- Markus -- To

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 17:02 +0200, Markus Falb wrote: On 27.Sep.2013, at 16:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: it may be an iOS 7 bug Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad. Tell us when you realize

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I upgrade from 7 to 7.0.2, so I was already on iOS 7, however, I only can use the iPad off-line (no mailing), because the ad-hoc connections by Linux are unstable, they might hold for 3 seconds. I don't know if it's

Re: Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Balamurugan
On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote: On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 11:36 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: Perhaps I ought to look for an upgrade! ;) Since 7.0 is just a few days old and today there's 7.0.2 available, there seems to be a reason for the update. The iPad isn't really designed for ad hoc networks Thank you, so the blame

Re: viewing html or clicking link in Jessie/sid crashes system

2013-09-27 Thread Paul Scott
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58:21AM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:02:40 -0700 Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote: Hi, Jessie/sid, Mutt from Gnome-terminal: Whenever I try to view an HTML portion of a message in Mutt or click on a link (a relatively

Hibernate/resume fails after adding SSD to debian 7

2013-09-27 Thread Len Berman
I added an SSD as follows: 1) added SSD (on SATA 1), 2) updated /etc/uswsusp.conf, 3) copied /usr and /opt to SSD partitions, 4) modified /etc/fstab to mount /usr /opt partitions, 5) ran update-grub2. And resume fails after hibernate. It used to work. If I unplug the

systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Main Backup
Hello everyone! I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future. 1. Will systemd default init system in future? 2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it. I don't need it. I hate it by my all heart. If I try to remove it, dbus depends on it as

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-27 Thread Doug
On 09/27/2013 09:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: /snip/ However, undersized voltage for capacitors for switching power supply is an often used fraud against consumers and switching power supplies pollute the mains. Exotic resistors sometimes make them a PITA when you want to repair one and you

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more:

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:38 AM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote: On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the

pcmanfm no window/gui, one user only

2013-09-27 Thread Tony Baldwin
Friends, For some reason, when I try to use pcmanfm as my user, I can not. I can start it as other users on the system, or with gksu or sudo, but not for my user. Or, really, what happens is, it seems to start (can find processes and kill them), but no window appears. It seems to hang. I

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, (and therefore the partitions on those devices,

Can't create folder on empty partition - suspect permission issue

2013-09-27 Thread Richard Owlett
I have a machine set aside for learning by experimentation. It will have at least Squeeze *and* Wheezy installed. I have created a multi-GB partition that I wish accessible to both. I have done install from [Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 Squeeze - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20120512-13:45] I

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm not a Debian developer, but my main distro Arch Linux switched to systemd a long time ago. Regarding to the flame wars caused by the transition, people were banned from the Arch general mailing list and the list nowadays is moderated. The issue with packages you experiences has to do with

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