Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

1997-10-08 Thread Steve Mayer
Oleg,

  The clock command has been replaced by hwclock.  It will accept the same
switch values that clock did.  I just replaced clock with hwclock in the
boot file and the error went away.

Steve Mayer
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Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

 hi,

 i'm starting to get message during boot time:

 command clock in /etc/init.d/boot not found

 i don't remember removing any essential
 packages from my system

 Any ideas how to fix it?

 regards

 OK

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installing PCMCIA support

1997-10-08 Thread frank . gorishek
I am attempting to install PCMCIA support on a DELL Latitude LX
notebook. I have used floppies (Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 built August 01,
1997) to install the base system and want to get my CDROM working (SCSI
PCMCIA adapter) working (I have the CD set 1.3.1).

I appear to be hitting a version conflict between the pcmcia-cs and
pcmcia-modules packages. On the Debian CD I have pcmcia-cs version
2.9.5-3 and pcmcia-modules versions 2.9.5-2 (for kernel 2.0.29) and
2.9.5-3 (for kernel 2.0.30).  The kernel version is 2.0.29, so I have to
use pcmcia-modules-2.0.29, but it depends on pcmcia-cs version 2.9.5-2
(which I can't find).

I have checked http://www.debian.org/packages and
http://hyper.stanford.edu/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/home.html to find a
compatible set of card services, kernel modules and kernel to no avail.
This seems pretty fundamental, so I must be missing something.

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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

1997-10-08 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:

 Nope, that's not enough.  The behavior of the program has changed
 slightly.

Oops. I thought it said it was switch-compatible. Thanks.

TL


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-08 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Britton wrote:

 I have the awe driver working with the awe 64, I think.  At any rate the
 module loads without any complaints and I can play sound.  /dev/mixer is
 definately not working right, but this is probably something I'm doing
 wrong.  I havn't actually been able to check the wave table device either
 (I don't really know how yet).

 I'm doing it just today, now I have it working with the awe 64 Gold
(but still must pass via DOS and loadlin, see attachments for the problem
I have here with isapnp; I don't have any other pnp cards; I have tried
putting in the WaveTable section the two addresses suggested on the list
by Torsten Hilbrich but I don't even know if he has the same card... I'll
have to dig into the awe driver faq I suppose, where Torsten itself got
the info if I didn't misunderstand, at
http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/awedrv-faq.html). 

 MIDI files coming from an old (DOS) version of Band-In-A-Box sound as
if some events had sustain/last too long here, also after recompiling the
kernel with the AWE_ACCEPT_ALL_SOUNDS_CONTROL macro defined in the
/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/lowlevel/awe_config.h header.
 Other MIDI files seem OK, drvmidi works very fine and so does xmixer
(from the multimedia package; I find it more suitable than xmix, but I
think the midi synth volume should go on it instead than on the drvmidi
panel, it should just be as the Creative mixer... or perhaps Creative
should gently... ok, see below). 

 The Netscape plugin: I was not able to test it yet... Just opening a
.mid file with Netscape does not seem to be the way.
 As for the test file /usr/doc/awe/netscape-test.html, I don't see the
mentioned .mid files there... so should I just try connecting to any(?)
WEB site sending midi music? (I heard nothing at the Creative WEB pages.)

(Notice: I will NOT install M$ Internet Explorer nor Web Phone, Linux is
too great to have the will to be running other things after quitting them
one crash after another.) 


On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 The Awe driver supports a good part of the AWE32 stuff. AWE64 was never
 intended for other OS than Windows (Creative Labs says, there would be no
 market for Linux, I think the linux community should ignore SB, if they
 ignore us).


On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 (Subject: Re: SB AWE 64 versus Soft. Syns. for making
midi...), Marcus Brinkmann wrote: 

 SB cares nuts about the linux community (they say, the market is not 
 important enough; we will see...), so we are on our own. 

 Yes, we'll see. Ok, we are on this thread because we have a SB or
think about buying one... Since January... I was thinking NOT to buy it,
but now my brother got married and he's going to take away his MIDI
keyboard soon, and I use to learn jazz trumpet impro practicing on
drones... (Of course I'll miss the keyboard anyway, useful to look for
chords or voicings for some small things of my own, once in a while... 
better than with the guitar, apart that my first instrument is _classical_
guitar and I don't have many pre-built chords positions handy with it [and
don't want to, yet].)

 I suppose lots of professional studioes currently go with MACs +
DigiDesign Tools hardware or the like... I would NOT trust Windog to keep
tracks recorded from professional (possibly great) musicians, and this
opinion is shared by _some_ people _inside_ that job I could talk to (I
met one of them from Detroit just last week and he invited me to his
studio in Germany... and he's also interested on Linux, BTW!).
 Instead I think it is a gift _from_ the Linux community _to_ Creative
Labs the chance to have Creative hardware/software running on such a
fast/robust/flexible system as Linux is.
 And last, I think that a lot of Linux guys (me too apart from my
brother's marriage) hearing about other guys spending hours and hours for
the AWE64 Gold to play as an AWE32 will think twice before buying it,
which is a pity because the card seems a nice product to me... not the
same opinion about Windog.

 BTW, I still have 3.1 here, a wreck, but 95 seems to be at the same
quality level (one friend of mine is still going home-shop after months
she bought 95 and Office 97 planning to use that stuff for her work) so I
refused to get it. The Steinberg Cubasis Audio software given with the
AWE64 Gold can't work all right almost on Windog 3.1, it doesn't
play/record audio tracks (the small Creative application does it fine...
maybe it's better to start the recording _before_ than starting e.g. a
MIDI playback with the media player, otherwise the Creative recorder [or
some Windog DLL or whatelse] is pessimistic and says the card is used by
another device... and so seems to do the Steinberg software, while the
card has no problems in reproducing while recording, as anyway the
Creative recorder/player and mixer prove). Well, I think I could put some
money on the Steinberg software released for Linux... the complete

Re: installing PCMCIA support

1997-10-08 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am attempting to install PCMCIA support on a DELL Latitude LX
 notebook. I have used floppies (Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 built August 01,
 1997) to install the base system and want to get my CDROM working (SCSI
 PCMCIA adapter) working (I have the CD set 1.3.1).

 I appear to be hitting a version conflict between the pcmcia-cs and
 pcmcia-modules packages. On the Debian CD I have pcmcia-cs version
 2.9.5-3 and pcmcia-modules versions 2.9.5-2 (for kernel 2.0.29) and
 2.9.5-3 (for kernel 2.0.30).  The kernel version is 2.0.29, so I have to
 use pcmcia-modules-2.0.29, but it depends on pcmcia-cs version 2.9.5-2
 (which I can't find).

 I have checked http://www.debian.org/packages and
 http://hyper.stanford.edu/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/home.html to find a
 compatible set of card services, kernel modules and kernel to no avail.
 This seems pretty fundamental, so I must be missing something.

The correct PCMCIA packages for Debian version 1.3 (called bo) are
located in the /debian/bo-updates directory on ftp.debian.org or one
of its mirrors.


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-08 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

 Other MIDI files seem OK, drvmidi works very fine and so does xmixer
 (from the multimedia package; I find it more suitable than xmix, but I
 think the midi synth volume should go on it instead than on the drvmidi
 panel...)

Sorry, didn't think AWE synth is equivalent to FM (it isn't as to the
Creative doc files)... anyway there it goes on xmixer.


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Re: ssh

1997-10-08 Thread Anand Kumria
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On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 Ok.  I'm trying to use ssh to connect between remote machines,  say from
 my machine to master.debian.org.  I've read the docs but I'm still
 confused:
 
 1) how do I enter a host into the list of named hosts that ssh is always
 talking about?  I've tried make-ssh-known-hosts but it always dumps with
 no such file.

make-ssh-known-hosts is useful for making system-wide known_hosts files.
If you are using SSH for yourself, simply connecting to a remote site with
get you its public key.

 2) How do I tell if my session is really encrypted or not?  Apparently if
 there's no secure connection it just uses .rhost ... that's not real
 great.




ssh -v should do the trick.

Anand.



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RE: why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time

1997-10-08 Thread rir
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, George Bonser wrote:

 
 Yeah, so you can have some temporary scratch space that survives a reboot.
 
 Anything that can evaporate at reboot time, you put in /tmp, anything you 
 want 
 to survive a reboot, you put in /var/tmp.

I would caution against using this idea on any machine you don't
control.  The purpose of /var/tmp is to unload the possible activity and
space requirements from root.  Consistent with this I'd assume
/var/tmp or any /*/tmp to be purged at boot.  

If looking for persistent scratch space put a directory in /var/spool.

That *nices  do not handle this out of the box is not surprising.
tmp filesystems and directories and dangling tmp symlinks are all
things to be decided by the system administrator.

 On 07-Oct-97 Lawrence wrote:
 any reason why /tmp be cleaned at boot time while /var/tmp not?
 
 lawrence

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Alt keys

1997-10-08 Thread Adam Klein
How can I get the Linux console to treat the right Alt key in the same
way as the left?


Adam Klein


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update-menus: segmentation faults

1997-10-08 Thread Paul Miller
update-menus is giving me segmentation faults (core dumped) ... I recently
upgraded several programs (dselect wanted to/hamm distribution) and now it
doesn't work.  Anyone have an idea on what could be wrong? 

-Paul


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Re: clock in /etc/init.d/boot ?

1997-10-08 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:

 
 
  Any ideas how to fix it?
 
 
 ln -s /sbin/hwclock /sbin/clock
 
 Nope, that's not enough.  The behavior of the program has changed
 slightly.
 
 hwclock -a (--adjust) only tweaks the RTC, it doesn't use the RTC to
 set the system time like it used to.  You need to invoke it as hwclock
 --hctosys to do that.  So hack /etc/init.d/boot as follows:
 
 Before:
 #
 # Set and adjust the CMOS clock.
 #
 if [ ! -f /etc/adjtime ]
 then
   echo 0.0 0 0.0  /etc/adjtime
 fi
 clock -a $GMT
 
 After:
 #
 # Set and adjust the CMOS clock.
 #
 if [ ! -f /etc/adjtime ]
 then
   echo 0.0 0 0.0  /etc/adjtime
 fi
 hwclock --adjust
 hwclock --hctosys $GMT

thanks - it did the job

cheers

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RE: Wierd crankiness update

1997-10-08 Thread George Bonser
Looks to me like your /dev directory might have been stepped on.  Looks like
/dev/tty is a regular file created by the redirected output of the echo.

You might delete /dev/tty and create a new device.

I think the command would be:

mknod /dev/tty c 5 0

but someone might want to correct me on that.

It is owned

root tty

on my machine.



On 07-Oct-97 Darin Johnson wrote:
Regarding my problem with login/passwd/su failing, I've tracked
it a bit further.  It seems that getpass() is failing, and more, that
it's actually /dev/tty that's completely screwed up.

Symptoms:
  $ echo howdy  /dev/tty
  $ cat /dev/tty
  howdy
  $ cat /dev/tty
  howdy
  $

That is, the first echo has no output, but each successive cat will
print the output.  This is contrary to a well running unix system,
where the first echo will print to the tty, and a cat /dev/tty will
block.

I've verified this under 2.1.55 and 2.0.30.  I have a mix of hamm and bo.
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old debian archives

1997-10-08 Thread B. Bell
hi, i know someone named a couple of sites that still had rex and maybe
even buzz archived, but i lost the message.  (and the mailing list search
is busted)  so, can anybody tell me where i can find debian 1.1 or 1.2?

thanks,
brad

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Still having core dumps in dpkg-ftp

1997-10-08 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

Hi, Gurus

i'm still getting core dumps while trying to
update package list via dpkg-ftp. 
I have hamm installed.

Any ideas how to cure it?

Related question is how to get
full list of packages on which 
dpkg/dpkg-ftp depends on.

Probably such a list will include:

-perl
-netstd
-libc
...

thanks a lot in advance

regards

OK


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Re: update-menus: segmentation faults

1997-10-08 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 update-menus is giving me segmentation faults (core dumped) ... I recently
 upgraded several programs (dselect wanted to/hamm distribution) and now it
 doesn't work.  Anyone have an idea on what could be wrong? 

Yes, upgrading libc6 broke libg++272.  The new libg++272 should have
gotten to the mirrors (or will soon).  Upgrade that and it should work
again.

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Re: re- thinkpad install

1997-10-08 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 However, the CD-rom access is still not mounted.
 and I do not know how access it. There does
 not seem to be a scsi recognized.

That seems to be right.

 I do not remember telling the drivers loaded
 section of the install there was a WD-7000 SCSI card,

The WD-7000 (which does a few different chipsets) seems to be compiled
in to the standard Debian kernel.  It's just the low-level driver for
the hardware anyway.

 I do not know what mem_base,irq to use in the
 boot command :
 Future Domain TMC-8xx/950 tmc8xx=mem_base,irq

I can't help you much here.  Are there any jumpers on the card?  Is
there any writing on it describing it?  Model numbers of the chips
with the most legs could help someone to identify the card too.

It might not be supported.  :-(

 Does something like this need to be placed into
 the lilo.conf file ?

If it worked typing (e.g.)

boot: linux tmc8xx=0x300,10

you can put and append= in lilo.conf.

 Previously under my NT 4.0 system I had on this 
 thinkpad the Diagnostics described my cd-rom
 as :_
 FutureDomain 8xxx scsi

Is it a PCI device?  Does anything relevant show in /proc/pci?  How
about the BIOS setup, if it's an integrated card?

 and the cdrom device labeled as :__
 IBM CDRM00201

*Any* SCSI CD-ROM should work if the adapter is recognised.

 scsi CD ROM

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RE: RARP on MAC address?

1997-10-08 Thread George Bonser

If you want a quick-and-dirty one-liner to find the IP address of a MAC address
you could use something like:

arp -na | grep MAC ADDRESS | cut -f1

man arp is your friend.


On 07-Oct-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all!

I have a MAC address (ethernet address) that I'm trying to figure
out what IP is associated with it.  I know that there is a
Reverse Address Resolution Protocol (RARP) that these machines use
to determine these types of things transparent to the user.

Is there a command line version where I could enter a MAC address
and get it to do the RARP and return an IP to me?

Cheers!
Richard..

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Re: old debian archives

1997-10-08 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, B. Bell wrote:

 hi, i know someone named a couple of sites that still had rex and maybe
 even buzz archived, but i lost the message.  (and the mailing list search
 is busted)  so, can anybody tell me where i can find debian 1.1 or 1.2?

You can find rex on debian.crosslink.net, under /pub/debian. A Dutch
mirror of it still exists at ftp.leidenuniv.nl under /pub/linux/debian.

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Re: Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem

1997-10-08 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Dave Restall wrote:

  .. but that's hamm only.
  
  Please enlighten me as to the meaning of hamm ?

 Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN, shouldn't
 the people who decide these things be thinking Hey perhaps we're doing
 something wrong here ?.

Hehe, I like the name Hamm.  I finally watched (part of) Toy Story on TV
(CBC) a few days ago.  Although I missed the first half, I love it!  Hamm
is the cute little toy piggy, and it is the code name for the upcoming
release of Debian 2.0.  ^_^

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Re: Gcc prints NAN for floats that are not NANs

1997-10-08 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 I have ported some code from Sparc to Intel. The code works fine except it
 prints NaNs for some floats that are not NaNs at all. One of my co-workers
 suggested I run the same code (of course compiled) on FreeBsd and see if
 the NaNs appear. The FreeBsd code does not produce the NaNs. I have
 searched the Web for Gcc and Nans and the closest I have come accross was
 a mention of this problem on  the Alpha chips and not Intel processors.
 (Does that mean Intel copied that much from Digital that they too have
 NaNs for usual float? :) :) )
 
 So any expert out there where should I look further?

Dunno if I may call myself an expert, but something that would really
help in diagnosing the problem, is to try to reduce the code to a small
code snippet that produces the problem.  It is hard to comment without
seeing any actual code.  The simple fact that code seems to work
correctly on one system (FreeBSD) doesn't mean it is necessarily
correct, as I discovered myself more than once :(.  Did you try the gcc
newsgroups?

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Re: RE- floppy=thinkpad mount/umount

1997-10-08 Thread Carey Evans
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 /dev/fd0   /floppy msdos   defaults
 
 If i do not insert a floppy during boot, it will error 
 out and eventually timeout the floppy, making the device
 READ-ONLY on subsequent mount -a .

It's obvious to me now, but I suppose not really pointed out anywhere.
You probably want something like:

/dev/fd0/floppy vfatuser,noauto

vfat means I get long filenames.  user means I don't need to be root
to mount it.  noauto means it isn't mounted until you ask for it
specifically.  When you put a floppy in, type mount /floppy and type
umount /floppy before you take it out.

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Re: Nuisances with Ethernet network.

1997-10-08 Thread Carey Evans
Dr. Daniel Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: IPX: Network number collision 53
 Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
 
 over and over. Now I cannot find out where it comes from and how to
 disable it and of course what it means. My connection seems to work fine.

It's coming from the IPX drivers in the kernel, in net/ipx/af_ipx.c's
ipxitf_rcv function.  I don't know anything about the underlying IPX
protocol.  However, I believe EtherII and 802.2 are different
protocols for encasulating the data across an Ethernet.  (Actually,
802.2 covers token ring, FDDI, etc. as well).

I get the impression from the code that you're getting different link
layer protocols on the same interface, which isn't a problem, but
they've got the same network number, which is.  You need someone who
knows IPX who's got a packet analyser, and isn't afraid to use it.

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Re: Nuisances with Ethernet network.

1997-10-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Dr. Daniel Mashao wrote:

 My /var/log/messages file grows by leaps and bounds all because it keeps
 getting the following message
 
 Oct  7 16:54:03 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
 Oct  7 16:54:21 vitasat kernel: IPX: Network number collision 53
 Oct  7 16:54:21 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
 Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: IPX: Network number collision 53
 Oct  7 16:54:25 vitasat kernel: eth0 EtherII and eth0 802.2
 
 over and over. Now I cannot find out where it comes from and how to
 disable it and of course what it means. My connection seems to work fine.

try setting different IPX network numbers for the Ethernet_II and 802.2
frame types.  see /etc/ipx.conf and the man pages in ipx package: 
ipx_interface(8), ipx_internal_net(8), ipx_route(8), and ipx_configure(8). 
more info can be found in the /usr/doc/ipx directory, and in the IPX
HOWTO. 

if you don't need novell compatibility then get rid of the ipx, ipxripd, and
ncpfs packages.

btw, what does 'cat /proc/net/ipx_route' and 'cat /proc/net/ipx_interface'
look like? 


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Re: Gcc prints NAN for floats that are not NANs

1997-10-08 Thread Dr. Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

 Dunno if I may call myself an expert, but something that would really
 help in diagnosing the problem, is to try to reduce the code to a small
 code snippet that produces the problem.  It is hard to comment without
 seeing any actual code.  The simple fact that code seems to work
 correctly on one system (FreeBSD) doesn't mean it is necessarily
 correct, as I discovered myself more than once :(.  Did you try the gcc
 newsgroups?

First thanks for replying.
I could never reproduce the problem on a smaller code. If I put just one
extra printf() statement the problem disappears and appears elsewhere in
the code. Here is the code

#define SCALE   8192/* scale for fixed point representation */
#define from_fixed(x)   ((double) (x) / SCALE)

double x,y;

   x = (from_fixed(tpi) - utt_scale);
   x = x / num_obser;
   x = x + from_fixed((phead-scale));
   y = ((from_fixed(tpi) - utt_scale)/1.0/ num_obser) + 
 from_fixed(1.0*phead-scale);

y produces a NaN and x does not
int num_obser = 695;
int phead-scale = 0;
int utt_scale = 0;
int tpi = -924593180;

This is one of the cases that produces a NAN for y. Once y is NAN no
matter what values tpi, and num_obser are it becomes a NaN after
performing the calculation. 

I understand what you mean when you say the fact that it worked on FreeBsd
and Solaris doesn't mean its correct. But I am suprised that if I use the
linear method as in 'x', it does not occur. 

Lastly, I could not duplicate it on a smaller code. I wonder how are the
NaN bits set on the Intel CPU. By the way is well documented that the
Alpha chip has this problem for gcc. 

Thanx once again

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Re: Nuisances with Ethernet network.

1997-10-08 Thread Dr. Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

 btw, what does 'cat /proc/net/ipx_route' and 'cat /proc/net/ipx_interface'
 look like? 
vitasat % cat /proc/net/ipx_route 
NetworkRouter_Net   Router_Node
0053   Directly Connected
vitasat % cat /proc/net/ipx_interface
NetworkNode_Address   Primary  Device Frame_Type
0053   0080ADB32187   Yes  eth0   EtherII
   0080ADB32187   No   eth0   802.2

I seem to be getting the idea. Thanx a lot guys,
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Re: Gcc prints NAN for floats that are not NANs

1997-10-08 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
 
  Dunno if I may call myself an expert, but something that would really
  help in diagnosing the problem, is to try to reduce the code to a small
  code snippet that produces the problem.  It is hard to comment without
  seeing any actual code.  The simple fact that code seems to work
  correctly on one system (FreeBSD) doesn't mean it is necessarily
  correct, as I discovered myself more than once :(.  Did you try the gcc
  newsgroups?
 
 First thanks for replying.
 I could never reproduce the problem on a smaller code. If I put just one
 extra printf() statement the problem disappears and appears elsewhere in
 the code. Here is the code
 
 #define SCALE   8192/* scale for fixed point representation */
 #define from_fixed(x)   ((double) (x) / SCALE)
 
 double x,y;
 
x = (from_fixed(tpi) - utt_scale);
x = x / num_obser;
x = x + from_fixed((phead-scale));
y = ((from_fixed(tpi) - utt_scale)/1.0/ num_obser) + 
  from_fixed(1.0*phead-scale);
 
 y produces a NaN and x does not
 int num_obser = 695;
 int phead-scale = 0;
 int utt_scale = 0;
 int tpi = -924593180;
 
 This is one of the cases that produces a NAN for y. Once y is NAN no
 matter what values tpi, and num_obser are it becomes a NaN after
 performing the calculation. 
 
 I understand what you mean when you say the fact that it worked on FreeBsd
 and Solaris doesn't mean its correct. But I am suprised that if I use the
 linear method as in 'x', it does not occur. 
 
 Lastly, I could not duplicate it on a smaller code. I wonder how are the
 NaN bits set on the Intel CPU. By the way is well documented that the
 Alpha chip has this problem for gcc. 

Thinking about it a little longer, I start to get the feeling that the
problem may be totally outside the code you showed.  If there is some
kind of memory corruption going on, parts of y can get overwritten by
totally unrelated code.  Maybe you can check this tracing the program
in gdb.  Set a watchpoint on y and determine when exactly it gets the
NaN value.  It could also be a good idea to link the program with the
electric fence malloc libraries (available as a debian package) to see
if you can trap any illegal reads or writes.

Eric Meijer

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Re: Nuisances with Ethernet network.

1997-10-08 Thread Dr. Daniel Mashao
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
 try setting different IPX network numbers for the Ethernet_II and 802.2
 frame types.  see /etc/ipx.conf and the man pages in ipx package: 
 ipx_interface(8), ipx_internal_net(8), ipx_route(8), and ipx_configure(8). 
 more info can be found in the /usr/doc/ipx directory, and in the IPX
 HOWTO. 
 
 if you don't need novell compatibility then get rid of the ipx, ipxripd, and
 ncpfs packages.
 
 btw, what does 'cat /proc/net/ipx_route' and 'cat /proc/net/ipx_interface'
 look like? 
Thanks to every one my problem is solved. It was due to conflict in
setting both EtherII and Ethernet 802.2. Now I know something about
networks :).

//
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Re: Nuisances with Ethernet network.

1997-10-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Dr. Daniel Mashao wrote:

 vitasat % cat /proc/net/ipx_interface
 NetworkNode_Address   Primary  Device Frame_Type
 0053   0080ADB32187   Yes  eth0   EtherII

this seems ok.

    0080ADB32187   No   eth0   802.2
  

this is a problem.  you can't have a network number of 0 - it's not
allowed.

do you actually need both frame types?  what is the rest of your novell
lan running on?  ether_II, 802.2 or 802.3.  ether_ii is best. 

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Re: slang and lynx

1997-10-08 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Oct 06, 1997 at 07:11:52PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 after upgrading to the newest version of slang0.99.34 and slang0.99.38

That version is in unstable. If you wish to discuss problems with
unstable please do so on the debian-devel list, not on debian-user.

 I get the following error with lynx: can't open libslang.so.0.99.34
 
 I tried making a symlink to libslang.so.0.99.38 and this results in lynx
 doing a core dump when I attempt to start it.
 
 I thought the slang0.99.34 package was meant to allow libc5 packages that
 still need libslang.so.0.99.34 to work

It is. Unfortunately, I made a mistake with the -2.7 versions, causing
slang0.99.34 to contain libc6 libraries too. This is fixed in -2.8. 

Ray
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Re: [Q] Mail spool dir okay over nfs?

1997-10-08 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Oct 02, 1997 at 04:43:31PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
 Is it completely safe to use, say, elm, to process the /var/spool/mail
 directory over nfs in Debian 1.3.1?  I know at some time there was a
 problem with different locking conventions resulting in lost or scrambled
 mailboxes; have they been long resolved?

It is current Debian policy that all packages involved in the processing of
mail (MTAs, filters, MUAs) use dotlocking as their only way of locking, as
this is NFS-safe. AFAIK, this policy is fully implemented.  So if both
server and client run Debian, it's OK. If they don't both run Debian, you'll
have to make sure yourself that every program involved follows the
dot-locking-only policy.

HTH,
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Re: Compose key? (Can a windoze keyboard be configured to...)

1997-10-08 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Oct 06, 1997 at 01:27:31AM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
 Can a windoze keyboard be configured, so those three extra keys can do
 something interesting?  
 
 Like act as a compose key?  a meta key?  

[megasig deleted]

It can. There is a Debian Keyboard Configuration Project under way
(http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-kbd/) that will
make this easy. For now, look at its homepage for links to the relevant
documentation.

On Sun, Oct 05, 1997 at 11:39:41PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
 I could not find any documentation on this except the compose key
 combinations as output of dumpkeys.
 
 To be concrete: Which key or combination of keys do I have to press to be
 able to compose something like ê or á? (I did this with emacs in the
 iso-accents-mode).

For the console, control dot is the default compose key (look for Compose
in the dumpkeys output).

 Is it the same for the console and in X?

No. X has it's own mechanism. The keyboard configuration project aims to
make the keyboard behaviour consistent across console, X etc.

If you are interested in working on this, join the
debian-i18n@lists.debian.org list.

HTH,
Ray
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xdm problem -solved

1997-10-08 Thread Christopher Judd

On 1 Oct Mario O. de menezes wrote,


  ...

 have your /etc/X11/config file the right lines for xdm:
 
 start-xdm
 xdm-start-server
 

 also, after change this lines, you need run xbase-configure. this
 utility will create the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers with a line
 indicating where xdm should start the xserver:

 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16
  ^ ^
 i think this could be your problem.

  hope this help

I had to make both these changes manually, but now everything is 
working fine.  Thanks.

-Chris



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Re: RARP on MAC address?

1997-10-08 Thread Richard . Dansereau
Yes, I did know this method.. but, this doesn't help at all if
the address isn't in your arp tables.  I'm looking for a method
of finding it if it ISN'T in the arp tables which is currently
my problem.


Richard..

 
 
 If you want a quick-and-dirty one-liner to find the IP address of a MAC 
 address
 you could use something like:
 
 arp -na | grep MAC ADDRESS | cut -f1
 
 man arp is your friend.
 
 
 On 07-Oct-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all!
 
 I have a MAC address (ethernet address) that I'm trying to figure
 out what IP is associated with it.  I know that there is a
 Reverse Address Resolution Protocol (RARP) that these machines use
 to determine these types of things transparent to the user.
 
 Is there a command line version where I could enter a MAC address
 and get it to do the RARP and return an IP to me?
 
 Cheers!
 Richard..
 
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Re: Printer-setup

1997-10-08 Thread Allen M Granda

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On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote:
 
  Hi, 
  
  where should I start to look for man-pages or some
  installing-instructions concerning printer-setup (hp-deskjet 690C). I'd
  like to set up filters to be able to print ps-files...
 
 install (and configure) the magicfilter package.  You configure it by
 running magicfilterconfig (read the /usr/doc/magicfilter stuff :) ).
 
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Re: RARP on MAC address?

1997-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I did know this method.. but, this doesn't help at all if
 the address isn't in your arp tables.  I'm looking for a method
 of finding it if it ISN'T in the arp tables which is currently
 my problem.

Proof by exhaustion:

ping -c 1 nnn.nnn.nnn.xxx for all xxx

and it'll appear in your arp table. (If you know vaguely where it is.)
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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-08 Thread liiwi
 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ed wrote:
  $30.  30 dollars, US, I tell you.  If you read the fine print at 4front,
  you will find a 10 dollar surcharge for AWE 32/64 support.
 
 Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
 Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?

 I have an AWE 64 GOLD (ok, that's what reads on the box :)) and it works
 fine with the awedrv made by Takashi Iwai. You can get it from:
 http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/;. And that's GPL'd.

 
 Marcus

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Re: my first package - xvgr

1997-10-08 Thread liiwi
 Now, I need someone who can help me with some questions from time to time.
 I will have (and already have) questions which are not answered in
 info or man or /usr/doc. I need some 'daddy' to help me find the way :-)
 I could go to the debian-devel list, but I am afraid I would bother them
 with my stupid questions. And, I don't want to upgrade to unstable yet, so
 I may need someone who helps me with publishing.

 Hi!

 You are maintaining a package, right? A package-maintainer is a 
 developer, right? Hmm. I think you *should* be in debian-devel AFAIK. 

 Only stupid question is the one you don't ask. 

 Let me advertise a bit more: If you think you may be able to debianise a
 program, try it. Let debian be growing. :-)

 Just got to try, when I have some time. Or contribute something else. 
 Might start with some old and work-needing package, rather than to
 start packaging a brand new one. 

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Re: why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time

1997-10-08 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The purpose of /var/tmp is to unload the possible activity and
 space requirements from root.

/var/tmp was created after /usr/tmp, to let /usr be read only.
In fact /usr/tmp is now a symlink to ../var/tmp

/tmp is to be considered less persistent than /var/tmp : ideally it
should be in a ramdisk or directly in the swap.

To use a small partition for / , I've deleted /tmp and put a symlink to
/var/tmp to let / be on a small partition. 
This would also solve your problem.


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Re: Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem

1997-10-08 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Dave Restall wrote:
 
  Please enlighten me as to the meaning of hamm ?
 
 Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN,
 shouldn't the people who decide these things be thinking
 Hey perhaps we're doing something wrong here ?.
 

Hamm, bo, rex are codenames.
These are persistent names that will not change during their life,
while stable, frozen, unstable, Debian-1.2, Debian-1.3 and Debian-2.0
are not persistent and are created and changed according to the stage
(maturity) of the development.

Actually stable points to bo and unstable to hamm. Later will be
created frozen pointing to hamm, and a new codeneme will appear as
unstable. After the release time, stable will point to hamm as well
as Debian-2.0 and there will be a new unstable to work on.

Therefore we currently use codenames to uniquely identify one particular
hierarchy in the ftp site.
I haven't cheched, but I think this {is,should be} explained in the
README which is displayed when you log on the debian directory in the
ftp site.


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Oct 07, 1997 at 08:38:56PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ed wrote:
   $30.  30 dollars, US, I tell you.  If you read the fine print at 4front,
   you will find a 10 dollar surcharge for AWE 32/64 support.
  
  Let me say that the awe driver package works just fine with a SB AWE32.
  Don`t know about the 64 yet. Any people tried?
 
  I have an AWE 64 GOLD (ok, that's what reads on the box :)) and it works
  fine with the awedrv made by Takashi Iwai. You can get it from:
  http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/;. And that's GPL'd.

Oh, and it is debianized. There are awe-* packages in sound (extra).
Just dpkg -i them, and then follow the instructions in my SB AWE HOWTO
coming soon :-)

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Re: Mounting of removable media - security problem ?

1997-10-08 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny


On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 There already is a solution to this. There is a group named 'floppy' you
 can use for this. If only users that are in the 'floppy' group (and root)
 can (u)mount the floppy device and only users that are logged in at the
 console are in group 'floppy', I think your problem is solved.
 
 Here is how to do this:
 
 In /etc/login.defs, add the group 'floppy' to the value of the
 'CONSOLE_GROUPS' variable. I think it is there by default, but I am not
 sure. Now, execute these commands as root:
 # cd /dev
 # chown root.floppy fd*
 # chmod 660 fd*
 
 Now, if somebody logs in at the console he/she is in group 'floppy' (check
 this with the 'groups' command) and a user that is not logged in from the
 console has no access to the floppy drive (check this, too).
  
Thanks !
 It really works, however there is another small problem. I'm maintaining
two debian systems, and /etc/login.defs exists only in one of them (the
one with installed shadow passwords).
 Is the existence of /etc/login.defs associated with shadow passwords
system?
 How to install shadow passwords on living debian linux?

Regards
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master.debian.org/debian/Incoming mirror

1997-10-08 Thread Adam Klein
Where can I find a mirror of the master.debian.org debian/Incoming
directory?

Adam Klein


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Re: why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time

1997-10-08 Thread m*
George Bonser wrote:
 
 Yeah, so you can have some temporary scratch space that survives a reboot.
 
 Anything that can evaporate at reboot time, you put in /tmp, anything you want
 to survive a reboot, you put in /var/tmp.
 

yup, like the vi.recover directory. i believe /var/tmp is the default
location for vi.recover is it not?

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Re: master.debian.org/debian/Incoming mirror

1997-10-08 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Adam Klein wrote:

 Where can I find a mirror of the master.debian.org debian/Incoming
 directory?

This was recently posted, so you may want to check the archives:
ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/
ftp://ftp.lh.umu.se/pub/linux/debian-Incoming/
(there was another, but I couldn't get it to work)

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using alien

1997-10-08 Thread Paul
hi everybody, I'm having a problem using alien to install a .rpm file.
the following errors occur:
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
sh: rpm: command not found
Error querying rpm file.
I don't quite know how to solve this.  Can some one else help me.  If you
need more information please let me know.
Paul



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Re: using alien

1997-10-08 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 hi everybody, I'm having a problem using alien to install a .rpm file.
 the following errors occur:
 sh: rpm: command not found
 Error querying rpm file.
 I don't quite know how to solve this.  Can some one else help me.  If you
 need more information please let me know.

Paul,

do you have package 'rpm' installed?

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Re: using alien

1997-10-08 Thread Paul
No but i do now and it works fine.
thanks
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xntpd/clock/adjtimex questions

1997-10-08 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
I have tried to make sense of the documents and man pages for these
commands, but still am alittle confused.

I have run xntpd for about 6 hours, and have checked the ntp.drift file
and the tick  frequency values that come from adjtimex --compare.

There seems to be no correlation between these numbers. I thought that
ntp.drift was the 'drift' of the system clock from real time, in parts per
million. 1ppm = .0864 seconds/day

Which numbers do i use to set my system clock, The value of ntp.drift or
the tick  frequency?

How should the first value of /etc/adjtime be calculated?

No machines in my network will have a permanent connection, and only 1 of
them will have part time(2 hours/day) connectivity.

Or am i looking at this all wrong and the /etc/adjtime file is for
correcting the rtc?

I would like as accurate a time server that I can get, within the limits
of my network.

Insights, comments, or instructions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: bug ?: Disappearing DOS partitions (fwd)

1997-10-08 Thread G. Crimp
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote:

  Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
   phys=(259, 15, 63) logical=(64, 63, 63)
 
 Have you changed your BIOS settings - LBA - Large - CHS? This might
 have messed something up.
 
 Adrian
 

I never changed anything in the BIOS setup, but I did type

linux hda=3146,16,63 
(which is the cylinders,heads,sectors/track geometry of my HD)

at the installation boot prompt.  Linux would not install properly if I 
let it read the logical geometry from Bios.  Yet, I did not want to 
change the BIOS because that would have buggered up my DOS setup.

And please note, the partitions were there for several days, readable 
under both DOS and Linux, then, presto chango, DOS couldn't see them 
anymore but Linux still can.

Does this give you any further ideas ?

Thanks.

Gerald Crimp


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