Re: Design of Debian web site
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Ender Wigin wrote: Hi, Please do not forget that there are users who access the site using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site more difficult to navigate for them. That should not be an isue ... you can write a script that autoloads a lynx version automaticly if you can't handle frames I may be wrong about this but I realy think I've seen this somewhere before Note that to be sure all these fancy things work you must try them on multiple versions of multiple browsers. Lynx actually deals with much of this better than some of the others. Let's see there is Mosaic, lynx, Chimera, Netscape, Internet Destroyer, and a few other less known, that are still in common use. If you do not care about any of these people, sure go ahead. Personally, I find some of the simple pages more attractive, and usually more usefull. /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills* Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM with Debian 1.3E6
Perhaps this is the shadow password thing. Try shadowconfig off then shadowconfig on. On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: Hi guys, I have returned to the list, had to get my processor fixed. Anyway, I am running Debian 1.3R6 and I want to have an XDM setup so I can remotely use my resources and afterstep setup rather than another computer's limited resources and crappy windows manager. (afterstep doesn't seem to install on their side very easily). I am using typical run levels... run level 2, goes to terminal mode. I run xdm... and one time... i ran it with some arguments and I got it to go to the xdm login screen... where I got stuck. Now, I remotely login through a computer with xdm, and I see my xdm login screen again but this is the stuck part. Everytime I try to login with a valid user account, it says, login failed. I have a .xsession in the users' home dir. I added the *.domain.name in the Xaccess part. I am guessing my xdm-config is setup improperly for authentification. I added DisplayManager*authenticate: true and a few other things... still no go. And... I cannot get xdm to start up locally so I can test it easier. Even when I did get it running locally, still get that login failed even with valid user logins (telnets works fine). Thanks in advance guys! Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills* Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design of Debian web site
Kenneth L. Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have to disagree. I like it the way it is. It is simple, elegant, and I don't have to search through five screens to find what I want. As for professional: I've seen plenty of professional sites that are cluttered, take *way* to long to download, and are hard to use. I would agree that a little more color and contrast might be nice (it is pretty white), and a unified structure (i.e., banners that match on every page, etc.) is a good thing. But I have to think that the basic structure is pretty good the was it is. I agree with Ken. One of the good features of the current web site is that it is as usable with lynx as it is with a GUI. Far too many professional sites hide information and links inside graphics, so a text-based bowser can't see them. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Mike Acklin wrote: What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but thanks for the early review :-) It is the replacement for dselect. I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP key server
Could someone give me some advice on setting up a key server for PGP? Thanks Darren Renaud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xsession problem
I'm just trying out vncserver -- excellent stuff. In my /etc/vnc.conf
I put
$vncStartup = $ENV{HOME}/.xsession;
but when vncserver runs, the ~/.vnx/X.log says
rfbInitSockets: listening on TCP port 5901
httpInitSockets: listening on TCP port 5801
sh: /etc/X11/Xsession: Permission denied
but there is no mention of that filename in /etc/vnc.conf
and I have no ~/.vncrc. What am I doing wrong?
thanks,
Hamish
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Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: Windowmaker only shows the xterm and exit commands on the menu, while afterstep shows several others, but none of the packages I have installed show up even though the files exist in /usr/lib/menu and update-menus has been run. This one's my fault. Do this: $ echo \menu.hook\ ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu and that should be it. I haven't figured a way of fixing this. The problem is the WMRootMenu is either: the menu or, as in the solution I provide, the name of the file with the menu. If you just say menu.hook it will look for ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook or /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook Hope that wasn't much trouble. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vncserver for bo
Does anyone have a vncserver port to bo? I tried to compile it but obviously it wants jdk 1.1 to compile the java client, which bo doesn't have. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I think I found something which might explain the problem with windowmaker. $ less ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu menu.hook menu.hook is missing. IIRC it was there previously. Yikes! Can I see /etc/menu-methods/wmaker? Have you edited the file? The wmaker configuration files have been moved from /etc/X11/wmaker to /etc/X11/WindowMaker. If the menu-method points to the old directory nothing will work. WindowMaker crashes pretty bad against the old configuration files (that wasn't the reason why I moved the directory, BTW). I'd like to have a bit more feedback on this. I'm fixing this little surprises, but I haven't had much input to work with. Anything will be appreciatted. Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] WindowMaker maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). This is Debian we are talking about... ;-) deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect, but Deity is way way better from the current previews. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server
At 13:07 -0500 1998-03-28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I suggest www.qmail.org. Forget Smail Sendmail and get a good MTA. Check the archives of the qmail list. There are Debian users that have qmail running, even tho it is not a debian package. Save yourself a LOT of grief! Use qmail! If qmail's author used a reasonable license, I would. It *is* a Debian package though: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/hamm/non-free/binary-all/mail/qmail-src_1.01-5.deb -- Joel Espy Kleckermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://web.espy.org/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer...http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Hamm Dselect
At 15:20 -0500 1998-03-28, Wintermute wrote: Is it ok to set dselect to use the package files in /debian/hamm/ yet? I was using /debian/dists/unstable before now, and I noticed the other day that my package list went to nothing. You should always use dists/*. In this case, dists/frozen/* for hamm (and eventually dists/stable/* once hamm is released). dists/unstable/* is the new unstable (to become 2.1 (slink)). -- Joel Espy Kleckermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://web.espy.org/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer...http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
At 17:13 -0800 1998-03-28, George Bonser wrote: Not from what I understand. I was told that it will run in either graphic or comman-line modes completely replacing dselect. That's true, deity has both a slang and a GTK interface, the coolest thing is that both interfaces are in a single executable. BTW, command-line is not the correct way to refer to a full-screen curses-style interface (visual is a common term). -- Joel Espy Kleckermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://web.espy.org/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer...http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PGP key server
At 20:14 -0500 1998-03-28, Darren Renaud wrote: Could someone give me some advice on setting up a key server for PGP? You can get source for a key server daemon at: http://www.mit.edu/people/marc/pks/. I am also doing a Debian package of it, but it'll be awhile before I have it done. -- Joel Espy Kleckermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://web.espy.org/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer...http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design of Debian web site
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, cleto wrote: Please do not forget that there are users who access the site using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site more difficult to navigate for them. On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Thomas Apel wrote: To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. [...] It's possible to design a good-looking page on a GUI that doesn't take forever to download which still works ok for lynx, Netscape 1.0, Mosaic etc. Even frames are not that bad: if you are careful, it will only require a few more clicks or the like from the user. In fact, I haven't checked the details, but I believe HTML 4.0 is an attempt to standartise the various HTML enhancements in a way reasonably compatible with older implementatios. I don't mean we should make the page a fireworks show, but I do believe it would benefit from a little more attention to visual design. Also, the structure is *not* that good IMHO (differently from someone else said before); that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just not the best. See ya, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's Internet! The future? I've seen the future: It's a 46 years old virgin singing 'I am a hotdog' - From Demolition Man -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). It has a text mode as well. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deity in 2.0? CD's anyone?
Is deity going to be in 2.0? And are any developers burning CD's? I would like to buy from a developer, since I have had trouble with mail order places in the past, and want to get a local network set up on 2.0 systems as soon as possible without risking version skew problems (If there are any). Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. On 28 Mar 1998, Rob Browning wrote: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). It has a text mode as well. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Applixware- user view needed
G'day -- I would like to know what HD space one needs to install applixware office suite? I have searched high and low for this piece of info to no avail. And while we are at it, can someone give me a feedback on spreadsheet part of the suite: does it provide a function similar to the one found on Corel's Quattro called optimizer or some such thing - basically a goal seeking tool for two or three variables at the same time? Thanks a bunch DamirN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vncserver for bo
Does anyone have a vncserver port to bo? I tried to compile it but obviously it wants jdk 1.1 to compile the java client, which bo doesn't have. What? Netscape 3 runs VNC java applet with no problems which means it uses java 1.0.2, not 1.1. Also, you may go ahed and install jdk1.1 packages on bo system with no problem whatsoever. (It is libc5-based, as all of the current Motif packages). Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian not working on a PC without math copro
thanks a lot for all who responded to this thread,your help was greatly apreciated. Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I think I found something which might explain the problem with windowmaker. $ less ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu menu.hook menu.hook is missing. IIRC it was there previously. Yikes! Can I see /etc/menu-methods/wmaker? Have you edited the file? The wmaker configuration files have been moved from /etc/X11/wmaker to /etc/X11/WindowMaker. If the menu-method points to the old directory nothing will work. WindowMaker crashes pretty bad against the old configuration files (that wasn't the reason why I moved the directory, BTW). I'd like to have a bit more feedback on this. I'm fixing this little surprises, but I haven't had much input to work with. Anything will be appreciatted. It looks like it points to the correct directory. The only menu items I get are xterm and exit. The version I have installed is 0.14.0-2 from frozen. I haven't edited anything. /etc/menu-methods/wmaker: #!/usr/sbin/install-menu # # Generates WindowMaker menus for all registered applications. compat=menu-1 !include menu.h genmenu=menu.hook rootprefix=/etc/X11/WindowMaker/ userprefix=GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/ treewalk=(M) supported x11= \ $title \ EXEC $command \n wm= \ $title \ RESTART $command \n text= \ $title \ EXEC term() \n wmaker= \ $title \ $command \n endsupported preoutput=#Automatically generated file. Do not edit (see /usr/doc/menu/README)\n\n#include \wmmacros\\n\n startmenu= \n ifelse($title, $title, Debian) MENU \n submenutitle= endmenu= ifelse($title, $title, Debian) END \n Thanks for looking into this. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). This is Debian we are talking about... ;-) Yes, that is one of the things which caused me to switch from Red Hat. I'm glad to see it still runs in a text VC. deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect, but Deity is way way better from the current previews. I'll grab a copy and have a look. Are there any known, serious bugs? Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
diald
I was trying to get a friend switched over from freeBSD to Debian today. All went fairly well. This was my first experience with pppconfig, and it worked slick! Good job! Now, to the problem. I wanted to get diald working for him. I think I have everything set up the way it should be, but when I run '/etc/init.d/diald start', in daemon.log I see: Mar 28 20:18:29 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Mar 28 20:19:34 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Mar 28 20:20:18 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Mar 28 20:23:42 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Mar 28 20:26:26 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Mar 28 20:32:58 willys modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-1 Each time diald tried to start, I get one of those lines. Diald doesnt start of course. What am I missing here, folks? Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps It works better if you plug it in. ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Intrinsics
Hi all, just a small question as i'm searching for the 'lowest-level' to use to programm under X-Win. Somebody told me that X-Intrinsics is this lowest-level, where other GUI's and lib's like OSF/MOTIF setup on. So, what's X-Intrinsics? Is it this lowest-level? Where are doc's for this? Thanks in advance, Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Intrinsics
just a small question as i'm searching for the 'lowest-level' to use to programm under X-Win. Somebody told me that X-Intrinsics is this lowest-level, where other GUI's and lib's like OSF/MOTIF setup on. So, what's X-Intrinsics? It's a thin object layer over Xlib written in C (not C++). Is it this lowest-level? No. Xlib is the lowest C language layer. Below Xlib is the X protocol. You don't want to deal with the X protocol. Where are doc's for this? The xbooks package has manuals that describe Xlib and X Intrinsics. The xmanpages package has descriptions of Xlib and X Intrinsics functions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Intrinsics
just a small question as i'm searching for the 'lowest-level' to use to programm under X-Win. Somebody told me that X-Intrinsics is this lowest-level, where other GUI's and lib's like OSF/MOTIF setup on. So, what's X-Intrinsics? Is it this lowest-level? Where are doc's for this? As for docs, there are official books on X, they are in xbooks package. For some other published books and tutorials, check out THE X site on the net: http://www.rahul.net/kenton/index.shtml In short, the lowest level is the definition of X protocol, Xlib (-lX11) implements this protocol in its quite low-level routines. X intrinsics (-lXt) library gives a framework for higher-level libraries (GUI toolkits) by defining the objects like widget, giving the rules for inheritance, etc. It also have many functions for manipulating widgets and their resources. Next level is GUI libraries (widget sets itself). The oldest and simplest one is Athena widget set (-lXaw), another example, substantialy more complex and complete would be Motif (-lXm). Gtk is probably the newest widget set available. Unfortunately, it breaks X conventions, Xt (X toolkit - same as X intrinsics) framework, etc. It claims to have the level of Xt covered by the routins of their own. Hope this helps. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deity trouble
I have been trying to install deity (largely because dselect has been seg faulting on me since libc6 upgrade and I havn't been able to fix this. I suspect it is related to the below ncurses problem). Here is what happens: # dpkg --install libstdc++2.8_1.0.1-0.3_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package libstdc++2.8. (Reading database ... 28935 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libstdc++2.8 (from libstdc++2.8_1.0.1-0.3_i386.deb) ... Setting up libstdc++2.8 (1.0.1-0.3) ... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.4 (No such file or directory), skipping # dpkg --install deity_19980324-1_i386.deb (Reading database ... 28940 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace deity 19980324-1 (using deity_19980324-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement deity ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/deity.postrm: [: --: binary operator expected Setting up deity (19980324-1) ... # deity deity: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: _t12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b1i0.nilRep __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. Britton Kerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best Book for Linux/Unix
What is the best book to learn Linux/Unix as for overall basics. I am not into programing yet, but would like to learn as much as I can about running a system. Like how to set my system for every day use. Editing the .bash_profile to make it usable. How to set up at and crontab. Directory sturctures, etc, and I know the list could go on. I have heard some people talking about O'Reily and Associate's Bible. What exactly is this book. What is the name of the actual book. There are so many books out, I don't know which one to get. I was wanting to learn what all is available for this system. Thanks in advance. ___ Mike Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Newbie --(Please Bear with Me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM with Debian 1.3E6
Whoa... big problems. I checked my /etc/init.d/xdm... it is a zero byte file. Apparently, when I installed the system, I never setup xdm. Is there some kind of setup script to get xdm on my system working again? I have shadowed passwords... and I am looking for a package called xdm, but there does not seem to be any. Thanks! Carroll Kong On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: Carroll Kong wrote: re xdm ... Everytime I try to login with a valid user account, it says, login failed. I have a .xsession in the users' home dir. I added the *.domain.na me in the Xaccess part. I am guessing my xdm-config is setup improperly for authentification. I added DisplayManager*authenticate:true and a few other things... still no go. And... I cannot get xdm to start up locally so I can test it easier. Even when I did get it running locally, still get that log in failed even with valid user logins (telnets works fine). Perhaps you should be using xdm-shadow? I seem to remember having had this problem in the days when I was running bo. Look at /etc/init.d/xdm and see whether it starts xdm or xdm-shadow. Try swapping which one it starts (provided that they are not effectively the same file, as they are on my hamm system). -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X query..
Whenever I start X, I get an xterm automatically opening. Is there a way to stop this? I have never minded until now, but now I usually close it straight away. The reason I ask is that it does not appear to be a result of one of the windowmanagers opening. there is a routine in the Xsession file: case $# in 1) case $1 in failsafe) if grep -q ^allow-failsafe /etc/X11/config then exec xterm -geometry 80x24-0-0 fi ;; esac esac but even after commenting it out, (and removing allow-failsafe in /etc/X11/config as well) it does not stop.. Can anyone help? Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- WinErr: 017 This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another game? --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stopping pppd redial with persistent connection
hi, I've got a Linux Router Project (Debian based) box running a permanent connection to the 'net via a 57.6 modem. I'm using pppd in persist mode and a few weeks ago over the weekend the account ran out of credits at the ISP so they disabled the account. The box rang the ISP every minute or so for just over a day and clocked up ~$185 in phone charges. In the chatscript I've got ABORT Authentication Failed which happens when the account is disabled cause the accountant forgot to pay the bills again. this should return error code 6. How do I get pppd to block totally when this happens. Ideally this should stop pppd from dialing at all till someone manually restarts it. What I'd also like to be able to do is actually conform to Austel regulations and not have the box dialup more than 3 times in half an hour with each call at least 2 minutes apart. This isn't as critical tho. thanks in advance, -- Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netwise Australia 0417 677 377 Engineering Network Solutions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
broken ncurses?
I suspect a broken ncurses setup is the root of my problems. The ncurses-base and ncurses-bin packages install fine, but when trying to reinstall ncurses itself I got the following: # dpkg --install ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.deb (Reading database ... 28942 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace ncurses3.4 1.9.9g-8 (using ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-8.deb) ... Unpacking replacement ncurses3.4 ... Setting up ncurses3.4 (1.9.9g-8) ... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.4 (No such file or directory), skipping I suspect that in trying to fix this I managed to annihilate my ncurses.3.4.so file, as bedore something like this showed up (I think in /lib), but now find gives: $ find / -name ncurses* -print /usr/doc/copyright/ncurses-term /usr/doc/ncurses3.4 /usr/doc/ncurses-base /usr/doc/ncurses-bin /usr/doc/ncurses3.0 find: /usr/share/emacs/20.2/site-lisp: Permission denied find: /etc/ppp: Permission denied find: /var/spool/cron/atjobs: Permission denied find: /var/spool/cron/atspool: Permission denied /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-base.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-base.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.0.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.0.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-bin.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-bin.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-term.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.4.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.4.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.4.shlibs /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-base.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses-base.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/ncurses3.0.shlibs Anyone know what I should do to rectify this situation? Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X query..
Hi Michael Beattie; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: Whenever I start X, I get an xterm automatically opening. Is there a way to stop this? I have never minded until now, but now I usually close it straight away. The reason I ask is that it does not appear to be a result of one of the windowmanagers opening. there is a routine in the Xsession file: case $# in 1) case $1 in failsafe) if grep -q ^allow-failsafe /etc/X11/config then exec xterm -geometry 80x24-0-0 fi ;; esac esac but even after commenting it out, (and removing allow-failsafe in /etc/X11/config as well) it does not stop.. If you have the stock Xsession file (not manually edited) it should contain one other line few paragraphs down from the place you are quoting: then exec $startup else rxvt -ls -geometry 80x12+2+2 -T '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' if [ -e /etc/X11/window-managers ] then for i in `sed 's/#.*//' /etc/X11/window-managers` do Notice the line starting (in my case) with rxvt? This is the one that will work under normal conditions and start up your xterm (I have manually edited my file to use rxvt instead of the xterm)... HTH DamirN -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: broken ncurses?
On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 07:38:41PM -0900, Britton wrote: I suspect that in trying to fix this I managed to annihilate my ncurses.3.4.so file, as bedore something like this showed up (I think in /lib), but now find gives: Actually the file is libncurses.so.3.4. Adam Klein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deity trouble
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Britton wrote: I have been trying to install deity (largely because dselect has been seg faulting on me since libc6 upgrade and I havn't been able to fix this. I suspect it is related to the below ncurses problem). Here is what happens: # dpkg --install libstdc++2.8_1.0.1-0.3_i386.deb You need the libstdc++ from hamm proper, 2.90 or so. They are not compatible in this case : # dpkg --install deity_19980324-1_i386.deb (Reading database ... 28940 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace deity 19980324-1 (using deity_19980324-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement deity ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/deity.postrm: [: --: binary operator expected Setting up deity (19980324-1) ... That looks bad, Scott? Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EXIM Help
Did you turn off fetchmail's rewrite option? Also you can tell exim: sender_unqualified_hosts = localhost in it's configuration file (see the fetchmail FAQ) -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
You are probably using debian version 1.3 or earlier and have a ps2 style mouse. Your message is not clear to me but... If you move the mouse when in a console, does a mouse curson appear on the screen? Where did the error message you listed come from? If you received that message when X-Windows was running then the problem can be cleared up several ways. The best being to upgrade to the latest stable release (version 1.3.1r6). You also can type gpm -k in a console and attempt to start X again (it should now work). The kernels have mouse support however during installation there should have been an option to include module support for a ps2 style mouse. If you did not choose that option (and that is the problem) then there are ways to solve the problem (I don't think that you would get the error message you mentioned from that problem however). John Wingfield wrote: I am a new user of Debian Linux. After much guesswork I have managed to install Debian and XFree86 (not provided with the CD). Unfortunately when installing Debian I could not include a mouse driver in the kernal because some a device in use error. As a consequence I cannot use XFree86. Can anyone offer me some advice on how to retrospectively install a mouse driver? John Wingfield -- John Wingfield Committee Member Website Manager British Double Reed Society [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bdrs.demon.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help ?
I think that you need the file 'lmemroot.bin' to do the installation (see the intallation text files). Also, please turn off your 'html' mail feature. Regis Hautière wrote: My system(386 with 6Mo of RAM) stop during the installation from the rescue disk after the floppy drive detection. What is going wrong ? Any hardware incompatibility ? How can I make it continue ? Thanks for your help Sincerly. RH. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design of Debian web site
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:33:10 +0100, cleto wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Thomas Apel wrote: To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text Debian GNU/Linux. All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo. Hi, Please do not forget that there are users who access the site using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site more difficult to navigate for them. Cleto I agree that the current Debian website design is lacking in visual impact however I also appreciate the concern for keeping web pages fast loading. I've used lynx for about five years and I don't find navigation bars prohibitive (at least per se), in fact the organization can be nice. There are some lynx-friendly web authoring guidelines at: Web authoring and Lynx http://www.crl.com/~subir/lynx/author_tips.html Rather than a single website design, why not open a Debian website design contest, with Thomas' design being the first entry? -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Netscape/applications
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Paul Miller wrote: I want netscape to download a text file and run an application. I've been able to get netscape to execute a script, but I don't know how to retrive the file. The file is a 2 line text file sent by a cgi script from a web page. Is there any way I can get netscape to download the file or another program in a script? Thanks -Paul I don't completely understand your problem, but I do believe that I have at least a partial solution for you. Lynx can be used to download files. All you have to do is specify the -dump flag, and it will dump whatever you load to stdout. For instance, you could do something like this: lynx -dump http://web.cps.msu.edu/~mille542/index.html index.html. Hope this helps, Corey Miller --- Corey Miller This looks like a job for . legal tender! MSTie #71940 -The Tick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egr.msu.edu/~mille542/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applixware- user view needed
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote: I would like to know what HD space one needs to install applixware office suite? I have searched high and low for this piece of info to no avail. And while we are at it, can someone give me a feedback on spreadsheet part of the suite: does it provide a function similar to the one found on Corel's Quattro called optimizer or some such thing - basically a goal seeking tool for two or three variables at the same time? My install takes about 250 megs. I installed the office suite, English manuals, and English dictionary. However, I haven't made use of the spreadsheet program yet :). Corey Miller --- Corey Miller This looks like a job for . legal tender! MSTie #71940 -The Tick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egr.msu.edu/~mille542/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext2fs resize?
Hello! I'm presently trying to shuffle and resize several partitions on a disk device without losing data. My answer to this is NOT authoritative, that is, I haven't looked at the code. However, in general, partitioning doesn't move data about; it merely updates a small file which delineates the sets of diskblocks that comprise each partition. The filesystem lays out the the blocks of its partition in accordance with it's policy - the filesystem on /proc is very different to those on /usr, or /, or /var which are in turn very different from that on /msdos. The *nix data partitions (/, /usr, /var, etc.) are layed out with a set of i-nodes at the beginning of the partition (or sets of i-nodes scattered throughout) each of which point to the individual blocks (or sets of blocks) which hold the file. The policy (or format) for msdos is very different, and unknown to me, as are the formats of /proc, etc. Yes -- and I'm looking for filesystem-specific tools that will shrink an ext2fs and a vfat partition. But wouldn't resizing be simple to do in principle? (Defragment the filesystem and move everything to the front of the partition, then change the total number of blocks in the superblock?) Can the ext2fs resize itself? That is, can the filesystem shrink or grow in size to accommondate a resized partition? Is there a tool to do this? Can the ext2fs move itself? If the whole filesystem is moved up or down (relative to the start of the partition), will it still work? Thus partitions aren't easily moved or combined without foreknowledge of the format of the content. Thus, you need to backup each of the partitions involved, re-partition, and restore the backups to the now empty, new, partitions. HTH. Unfortunately, the problem over here is that backup isn't really feasible. (It's also, theoretically, a very redundant operation.) And wouldn't _moving_ also be simple to do in principle? (Make all filesystem references to disk blocks relative to the superblock, not the start of the disk.) -- Ian!! Pobody's nerfect! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). This is Debian we are talking about... ;-) Yes, that is one of the things which caused me to switch from Red Hat. I'm glad to see it still runs in a text VC. Yes, we're still concerned about those without X running (although I must admit that I haven't looked at the test interface in a few months). deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect, but Deity is way way better from the current previews. I'll grab a copy and have a look. Are there any known, serious bugs? Well, other than not actually installing packages? :) The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott (note, I just compile the Deity snapshots and haven't actually contributed significant code). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Intrinsics
Thanks, this help's me much to hook on the X-Win thing... It's sometimes not easy to find the main-entrance... ;-) Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM with Debian 1.3E6
Carroll Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whoa... big problems. I checked my /etc/init.d/xdm... it is a zero byte file. Apparently, when I installed the system, I never setup xdm. Is there some kind of setup script to get xdm on my system working again? I have shadowed passwords... and I am looking for a package called xdm, but there does not seem to be any. xdm is part of xbase. See whether there is another file named xdm.dpkg-something that isn't empty. If there is, rename it to xdm and see if that helps. You can reinstall xbase more easily than with dselect by finding the package file and just running `dpkg -i xbase_whatever.deb'. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM with Debian 1.3E6
Carroll Kong wrote: Whoa... big problems. I checked my /etc/init.d/xdm... it is a zero byt e file. Apparently, when I installed the system, I never setup xdm. Is there some kind of setup script to get xdm on my system working again? I have shadowed passwords... and I am looking for a package called xdm, but there d oes not seem to be any. Thanks! Try re-installing xbase. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compilers Paranoia
I am afeared to install the (rather contorted) mosaic of C and C++ compilers and libs, after reading comments on the list. Wanting to install Deity, however, I find that the new C++ libs are required. Is it safe (and how safe) to install this mosaic? Alan -- Our loyalties are to the species and the Alan E. Davis planet. We speak for Earth. Our[EMAIL PROTECTED] obligation to survive is owed not just to Marianas High School ourselves but also to that Cosmos, ancient AAA196, Box 10001 and vast, from which we spring.Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---Carl SaganGMT+10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up network on Hamm install
Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the following correct? Your host name (you may be able to decide this on your own). computer name used when booting Win'95 (dual boots) Your domain name. lynagh.demon.co.uk This would make your computer's full Internet name hostname.lynagh.demon.co.uk on your LAN (except that this name won't be visible to the real Internet). Depending on the circumstances, this is probably OK, since this domain seems to be yours only. Just make sure you set up /etc/hosts and/or bind to say that this name is at 192.168.37.1. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applixware- user view needed
Damir J. Naden wrote: I would like to know what HD space one needs to install applixware office suite? I have searched high and low for this piece of info to no avail. Package: applix Installed-Size: 53801 Package: applix-english Installed-Size: 53450 So about 107MB total. And while we are at it, can someone give me a feedback on spreadsheet part of the suite: does it provide a function similar to the one found on Corel's Quattro called optimizer or some such thing - basically a goal seeking tool for two or three variables at the same time? No idea, I don't use spreadsheets. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
Thanks for your reply. When I was installing Debian (which should be the latest version - I received the CD only recently) I was given the option to install mouse support in the kernal. I attempted to do so, but this produced a device in use error or something similar. I have no objections to reinstalling Debian (I have done so twice already) but this error always occurs. I can't properly install XFree86 because I need the mouse to complete installation! John In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes You are probably using debian version 1.3 or earlier and have a ps2 style mouse. Your message is not clear to me but... If you move the mouse when in a console, does a mouse curson appear on the screen? Where did the error message you listed come from? If you received that message when X-Windows was running then the problem can be cleared up several ways. The best being to upgrade to the latest stable release (version 1.3.1r6). You also can type gpm -k in a console and attempt to start X again (it should now work). The kernels have mouse support however during installation there should have been an option to include module support for a ps2 style mouse. If you did not choose that option (and that is the problem) then there are ways to solve the problem (I don't think that you would get the error message you mentioned from that problem however). John Wingfield wrote: I am a new user of Debian Linux. After much guesswork I have managed to install Debian and XFree86 (not provided with the CD). Unfortunately when installing Debian I could not include a mouse driver in the kernal because some a device in use error. As a consequence I cannot use XFree86. Can anyone offer me some advice on how to retrospectively install a mouse driver? John Wingfield -- John Wingfield Committee Member Website Manager British Double Reed Society [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bdrs.demon.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What are the slink sundirecrories all about?
I noticed on my local mirror, that some subdirectories called slin: are being created. Is this new, or have I just not noticed it before. What are these for? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]770-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
Thanks for looking into this.
My pleasure.
It does look ok... are /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle} executable?
(This gotta be it!)
If you do:
$ chmod +x /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle}
$ update-menus -v
does it work?
Marcelo
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rsync/ssh-script no longer working in hamm
Here's something I don't understand: I used to be able (in bo) to execute the following script to update my home PC from the one in my office: sh-2.01$ cat xxx rsync -e ssh zoppo:.profile . Simple enough. But since I upgraded both machines to hamm the following happens: sh-2.01$ sh xxx Enter passphrase for RSA key '[EMAIL PROTECTED]': ... and then the processes hang (in T state)(just after printing the prompt). ^C doesn't work, so I have to use ^Z+kill to stop it: $ ps PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 2383 p0 S0:00 sh xxx 2384 p0 T0:00 rsync -e ssh zoppo .profile . 2386 p0 T0:00 ssh zoppo rsync --server --sender . .profile $ ps l FLAGS UID PID PPID PRI NI SIZE RSS WCHAN STA TTY TIME COMMAND 10 1000 2383 2304 0 0 1508 772 wait4 S p0 0:00 sh xxx 10 1000 2384 2383 0 0804 324 do_signal T p0 0:00 rsync -e 100140 1000 2386 2385 0 0 1372 644 do_signal T p0 0:00 ssh zoppo The funny thing is, it works perfectly, if I type the command at the shell prompt, or use: sh -c `cat xxx` Can anyboy enlighten me what's going on here, and what the difference is between 'sh xxx' and 'sh -c `cat xxx`' or entering the command by hand? Harald Schueler Universitaet Essen Tel +49-201-183-2456/2558 Fachbereich 7 Fax +49-201-183-2120 45117 Essen E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, [iso-8859-1] Marcelo E. Magallón wrote:
It does look ok... are /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle} executable?
(This gotta be it!)
No!
If you do:
$ chmod +x /etc/menu-methods/{wmaker,wmstyle}
$ update-menus -v
does it work?
Yes!
Thanks again,
Bob
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Re: ext2fs resize?
When Waye-Ian CHIEW wrote, I replied: A utility to pack the current content of a filesystem to one end (or the other, or the center) of its space would be possible for each filesystem type, but a general tool would be extremely difficult (probably impossible). For example, the original UNIX file system had all i-nodes at the beginning of the slice and allocated content blocks as near as possible to the i-nodes, the Berkely file-system, on the other hand, scatters sets of i-nodes accross the file-system space, and I suspect that the linux filesystems have other differences in detail - and we haven't even considered MSDOS, W$95 (which has at least two flavors), OS/2, etc. I have a spare ~400 Mb disk that I use in conjunction with cpio and gzip to handlew these situations. A spare HD is probably the best $100 you'll ever spend. Hello! I'm presently trying to shuffle and resize several partitions on a disk device without losing data. My answer to this is NOT authoritative, that is, I haven't looked at the code. However, in general, partitioning doesn't move data about; it merely updates a small file which delineates the sets of diskblocks that comprise each partition. The filesystem lays out the the blocks of its partition in accordance with it's policy - the filesystem on /proc is very different to those on /usr, or /, or /var which are in turn very different from that on /msdos. The *nix data partitions (/, /usr, /var, etc.) are layed out with a set of i-nodes at the beginning of the partition (or sets of i-nodes scattered throughout) each of which point to the individual blocks (or sets of blocks) which hold the file. The policy (or format) for msdos is very different, and unknown to me, as are the formats of /proc, etc. Yes -- and I'm looking for filesystem-specific tools that will shrink an ext2fs and a vfat partition. But wouldn't resizing be simple to do in principle? (Defragment the filesystem and move everything to the front of the partition, then change the total number of blocks in the superblock?) Can the ext2fs resize itself? That is, can the filesystem shrink or grow in size to accommondate a resized partition? Is there a tool to do this? Can the ext2fs move itself? If the whole filesystem is moved up or down (relative to the start of the partition), will it still work? Thus partitions aren't easily moved or combined without foreknowledge of the format of the content. Thus, you need to backup each of the partitions involved, re-partition, and restore the backups to the now empty, new, partitions. HTH. Unfortunately, the problem over here is that backup isn't really feasible. (It's also, theoretically, a very redundant operation.) And wouldn't _moving_ also be simple to do in principle? (Make all filesystem references to disk blocks relative to the superblock, not the start of the disk.) -- Ian!! Pobody's nerfect! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary bought a pair of skates upon the ice to frisk now wasn't that a crazy way her sweet young *? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
When I was installing Debian (which should be the latest version - I received the CD only recently) I was given the option to install mouse support in the kernal. I attempted to do so, but this produced a device in use error or something similar. I have no objections to reinstalling Debian (I have done so twice already) but this error always occurs. You don't have to reinstall Debian for that. (It won't help much anyway). The truth is that there are quite a few mouse drivers in the menu you mentioned. What kind of mouse do you have: serial or busmouse? If busmouse - is it PS2 or some other type? Please tell us as much as you know about it. If you don't know the answer even to the first question, tell us what kind of plug the mouse have - round or not? Anyway, my guess would be that you have a ps2 mouse. In this case just do (as root) insmod psaux. If it works, then you should use /dev/psaux device to configure X or gpm (and ps2 protocol). Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are the slink sundirecrories all about?
---BeginMessage--- On Sun, Mar 29, 1998 at 08:02:26AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: I noticed on my local mirror, that some subdirectories called slin: are being created. Is this new, or have I just not noticed it before. What are these for? Yes, this is new. :-) Hamm (the toy piggy bank from Toy Story) is the code name for Debian 2.0. Now that Hamm is frozen, Slink the dog (also from Toy Story) will be the future Debian 2.1. (i.e. the new developmental or unstable tree. :-) -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ ---End Message---
Re: Best Book for Linux/Unix
---BeginMessage--- On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 10:13:42PM -0600, Mike Acklin wrote: What is the best book to learn Linux/Unix as for overall basics. I am not into programing yet, but would like to learn as much as I can about running a system. Like how to set my system for every day use. Editing the .bash_profile to make it usable. How to set up at and crontab. Directory sturctures, etc, and I know the list could go on. Take a look at the _Debian_Linux_User's_Guide_ at http://www.linuxpress.com/ It is written by Dale Scheetz, a Debian developers. :-) The book looks really interesting. Besides, you could also view the on-line version for free. :-) -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep smiling! *^_^* Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://olvc.home.ml.org/ ---End Message---
Re: exmh and procmail filtering
Oliver Elphick wrote:
Erik van der Meulen wrote:
...
Could anyone send me an example of a .procmail file for use with exmh?
This is my ~/.procmailrc:
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOCKFILE=$HOME/procmail/lock
LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail/new
LOGABSTRACT=all
TRAP=$HOME/procmail/postprocess
I forgot to add the postprocess file, whose job is to update the unseen
sequence so that exmh will highlight messages you haven't read yet:
#! /bin/bash
# Update the unseen sequence in MH
cd $HOME/procmail
mpaths=`awk '/Folder:/{print $2}' new`
for mpath in $mpaths
do
mpos=`echo $mpath | awk -F/ '{print NF-1}'`
folder=`echo $mpath | cut -d/ -f1-$mpos`
msgno=`echo $mpath | awk -F/ '{print $NF}'`
seqf=$HOME/Mail/$folder/.mh_sequences
newseqf=$HOME/Mail/$folder/.mh_sequences_new
touch $seqf
if grep unseen: $seqf /dev/null
then
sed /^unseen:/s/\$/ $msgno/ $seqf $newseqf
mv $newseqf $seqf
else
echo unseen: $msgno $seqf
fi
done
cat new log
rm new
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Mouse Driver?
Greetings! I am new to Debian Linux, so I'll be asking lots of dumb questions.G In Win-xx and OS/2, the mouse movement can be accelerated, so the speed of cursor movement is proportional to the speed of mouse movement. It would be an especially handy feature in Linux-X with all the virtual destop space. gpmconfig or XF86Setup didn't offer me any setting for this. Is there a way to do this? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\-\ Carl Brown, Whitefield, NH, USA Proud Member of TEAM OS/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Boycott Micro$oft! \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/-/ Sunday, March 29, 1998 - 10:25 AM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are the slink sundirecrories all about?
Stan Brown wrote: I noticed on my local mirror, that some subdirectories called slin: ar e being created. Is this new, or have I just not noticed it before. What are th ese for? I presume you mean `slink', as in the subject line. slink is the next release after hamm; it should now be `unstable', while hamm is `frozen'. When Debian 2.0 (hamm) is finally released, it will become `stable' and `frozen' will disappear until it is nearly time to release slink. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Driver?
Carl Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be an especially handy feature in Linux-X with all the virtual destop space. gpmconfig or XF86Setup didn't offer me any setting for this. Is there a way to do this? Add -a X (where X is some number) to the append line in gpmconfig to accelerate the mouse when using gpm. Don't know about X, sorry. -- James - who really needs to get round to improving gpmconfig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
John is probably right (insmod psaux). Where exactly did the 'device in use' message show up? -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Driver?
Add -a X (where X is some number) to the append line in gpmconfig to accelerate the mouse when using gpm. Don't know about X, sorry. I know :) While in X, execute the following comand: xset m 4 3 Acceleration --^ ^--if you move it for the distance of 3 pixels faster than certain time. Do man xset for complete explanation. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ttf Fonts and debian
Can I use my TTF fonts from win95 to X (Debian 1.3) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
Scott K. Ellis wrote: The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott -- are there screenshots somewhere that we can look at? -- ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netstd_3.03 problem, KDE problem
I'm in the process of updating my hamm system and while installing netstd_3.03-1 I get the following error message: trying to overwrite '/usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz', which is also in package wu-ftpd dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Could someone give me a clue as to what's happening and now to fix it? Also, is there a problem with the KDE desktop package? It seems to give some dependency errors but yet I'm working off from the latest listing at ftp.debian.org. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org .| / / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
Alex, My mouse is a standard Microsoft PS/2 Intellimouse connected to an almost new Dell Dimension D266. It connects to a small round 6pin socket which I assume to be a serial mouse port. As root, I tried 'insmod psaux' which executed, but produced no response. I then typed '/dev/psaux device' which produced 'Permission Denied'. '/dev/psaux' produced the same. The exact error I got when trying to install a mouse driver from the Debian installer right at the beginning was: /lib/modules/2.0.29/misc/psaux.0: init_module: Device or resourse busy Installation failed Thanks for you help so far - do you have any more ideas?! John In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When I was installing Debian (which should be the latest version - I received the CD only recently) I was given the option to install mouse support in the kernal. I attempted to do so, but this produced a device in use error or something similar. I have no objections to reinstalling Debian (I have done so twice already) but this error always occurs. You don't have to reinstall Debian for that. (It won't help much anyway). The truth is that there are quite a few mouse drivers in the menu you mentioned. What kind of mouse do you have: serial or busmouse? If busmouse - is it PS2 or some other type? Please tell us as much as you know about it. If you don't know the answer even to the first question, tell us what kind of plug the mouse have - round or not? Anyway, my guess would be that you have a ps2 mouse. In this case just do (as root) insmod psaux. If it works, then you should use /dev/psaux device to configure X or gpm (and ps2 protocol). Alex Y. -- John Wingfield Committee Member Website Manager British Double Reed Society [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bdrs.demon.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design of Debian web site
On 03/28/98 at 09:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth L. Summers) said: Hi! The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have a lot more to offer. I would have to disagree. I like it the way it is. It is simple, elegant, and I don't have to search through five screens to find what I want. As for professional: I've seen plenty of professional sites that are cluttered, take *way* to long to download, and are hard to use. I would agree that a little more color and contrast might be nice (it is pretty white), and a unified structure (i.e., banners that match on every page, etc.) is a good thing. But I have to think that the basic structure is pretty good the was it is. But I am glad somebody still looks at these things :) Well, when I was trying to decide FreeBSD or Linux and which version to start using, I looked at all the web sites. I chose Debian for 2 reasons: 1) a Debian user took the time to explain the major differances between FreeBSD and Linux giving the best features of each. He was objective about it, no Holy War discussion. 2) the Debian page wasn't a Windows page. I didn't have to wade through a dozen pages to get what I wanted. It loaded quickly. I didn't have a bunch of little page sections that didn't fit my browser screen. It didn't need a Windows95 browser to be best viewed. The Debian page seemed more interested in giving me usefull information than blasting me with javascripts, animations, and graphics by the ton. That made me feel Debian could stand on it's own; it didn't need all the flash and glitter to make an impression. my $0.02 George I would like to thank M$ and IBM for combining FUD and incompetent marketing to kill the best desktop GUI to date. Hence, forcing me to switch to Linux/*BSD tommorrows ideas today. reply to: grimel @icx Sorry for the trouble, I'm just getting to much spam. .net --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
My mouse is a standard Microsoft PS/2 Intellimouse connected to an almost new Dell Dimension D266. It connects to a small round 6pin socket which I assume to be a serial mouse port. Nope, this is not a serial port. As root, I tried 'insmod psaux' which executed, but produced no response. I then typed '/dev/psaux device' which produced 'Permission Denied'. '/dev/psaux' produced the same. No. While inastalling X or gpm you should tell coniguration program that your mouse using /dev/psaux device, and the protocol is ps2. The simplest way would be to exit from X, dpkg --purge gpm, then install gpm package. It will ask you questions about the device on the protocol of the mouse. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Driver?
Carl Check out the man page for xset. Option m handles mouse functions you can set. HTH Wayne Subject: Mouse Driver? Date: Sun, Mar 29, 1998 at 10:25:00AM -0500 In reply to:Carl Brown Quoting Carl Brown([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Greetings! I am new to Debian Linux, so I'll be asking lots of dumb questions.G In Win-xx and OS/2, the mouse movement can be accelerated, so the speed of cursor movement is proportional to the speed of mouse movement. It would be an especially handy feature in Linux-X with all the virtual destop space. gpmconfig or XF86Setup didn't offer me any setting for this. Is there a way to do this? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\-\ Carl Brown, Whitefield, NH, USA Proud Member of TEAM OS/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Boycott Micro$oft! \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/-/ Sunday, March 29, 1998 - 10:25 AM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best Book for Linux/Unix
Mike Of the dozens of Linux/Unix books I have, one of the best is A Practical Guide to Linux by Mark Sobell. It is NOT distribution specific but has more General info the the others. Over 1000 pages packed with information. Try www.bookpool.com for Very Nice prices. Wayne Subject: Best Book for Linux/Unix Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 10:13:42PM -0600 In reply to:Mike Acklin Quoting Mike Acklin([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What is the best book to learn Linux/Unix as for overall basics. I am not into programing yet, but would like to learn as much as I can about running a system. Like how to set my system for every day use. Editing the ..bash_profile to make it usable. How to set up at and crontab. Directory sturctures, etc, and I know the list could go on. I have heard some people talking about O'Reily and Associate's Bible. What exactly is this book. What is the name of the actual book. There are so many books out, I don't know which one to get. I was wanting to learn what all is available for this system. Thanks in advance. ___ Mike Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Newbie --(Please Bear with Me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Flon's Law: There is not now, and never will be, a language in which it is the least bit difficult to write bad programs. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netstd_3.03 problem, KDE problem
The 'normal' default for dpkg is --force-overwrite. This is disabled in hamm (frozen) currently to make detection of just the sort of error that you encounted easier to find. Check the bug list and report if it is not already there. You can use dpkg --install --force-overwrite package name or you can go through the 'access' selection again and choose to enable the force overwrite for dselect. Randy Edwards wrote: I'm in the process of updating my hamm system and while installing netstd_3.03-1 I get the following error message: trying to overwrite '/usr/man/man8/ftpd.8.gz', which is also in package wu-ftpd dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Could someone give me a clue as to what's happening and now to fix it? Also, is there a problem with the KDE desktop package? It seems to give some dependency errors but yet I'm working off from the latest listing at ftp.debian.org. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up network on Hamm install
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The Bo install notes say I need to know the following. I assume Hamm will need it too. I have a LAN with Linux (none yet installed) and Win'95 boxes on and will also want to connect to the 'net. Since you are on two networks (LAN + Internet), your choices will depend on whether you have two Ethernet cards in the machine. If you I do. do have two--one hooked into the LAN, one to the Internet--then you configure the LAN card with your LAN IP address, and the Internet card with your Internet IP address. In this case, just make sure that you're consistent when you answer the prompts--use either the data from the LAN or the Internet, but not a combination. So what do I put for my domain name for my LAN? Thanks Ian -- Ian Lynagh - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.sn.no/~balchen/igloo/ How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Mouse Driver
After you do the 'insmod' then do o a 'cat /proc/modules' and you should see an entry like: psaux 11 which indicate that the mouse module is indeed loaded and known to the kernel. For gpm to work you need either: /dev/psaux (or /dev/mouse and a link from /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# gpmconfig Configuring gpm (mouse event server): Current configuration: -m /dev/mouse -t ps2 -r 70 Do you want to change anything (Y/n)? n Listing of /dev/psaux and /dev/mouse: bash-2.01$ ls -l /dev/ps* crw--- 1 root sys 10, 1 Mar 28 16:38 /dev/psaux bash-2.01$ ls -l /dev/mou* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Nov 1 16:53 /dev/mouse - /dev/psaux -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Rick Macdonald wrote: Scott K. Ellis wrote: The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott -- are there screenshots somewhere that we can look at? No screenshots, but there is a snapshot of the program in project/experimental on the archive. I expect we'll get screenshots once we're closer to completion (and someone gets around to it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Driver?
Yes. Modify your .xinitrc and add the line xset m 5 2. I would experiment with it. Do a man xset to get all of it.. but basically xset m 5 2 means set the mouse acceleration to 5x and 2 means something about the deceleration I believe. Experiement with it. :) It is a lot faster than the default. Carroll Kong On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Carl Brown wrote: Greetings! I am new to Debian Linux, so I'll be asking lots of dumb questions.G In Win-xx and OS/2, the mouse movement can be accelerated, so the speed of cursor movement is proportional to the speed of mouse movement. It would be an especially handy feature in Linux-X with all the virtual destop space. gpmconfig or XF86Setup didn't offer me any setting for this. Is there a way to do this? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\-\ Carl Brown, Whitefield, NH, USA Proud Member of TEAM OS/2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Boycott Micro$oft! \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/-/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frozen Hamm...
Still testing the xdm thing, but thanks for everyone's help on it. (I got to run to a remote system to test it). This Frozen Hamm deal is confusing me. I tried hamm, and I know I am not nearly as experienced with Linux as alot of people who have tried hamm, so I got problems left and right with backward compatibility. Actually now that I think about ... my problem was only Accelerated X... but Accelerated X is just a replacement for like XF86_SVGA, right? The binaries and libs of Xfree86 3.3.2, if I grab the ones for glibc2 should work fine, right? Hm... although hamm is the latest thing, I wonder if it is worth all my effort to try to go to hamm since a lot of things I use now still seem to use libc5. I tried glibc2 for a little bit, performance gains did not seem to significant. So... basically, I read, Hamm is frozen for testing... does this mean it IS stable? Or they are testing it.. if they find bugs, then they will fix it, then release it? Carroll Kong On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: Stan Brown wrote: I noticed on my local mirror, that some subdirectories called slin: ar e being created. Is this new, or have I just not noticed it before. What are th ese for? I presume you mean `slink', as in the subject line. slink is the next release after hamm; it should now be `unstable', while hamm is `frozen'. When Debian 2.0 (hamm) is finally released, it will become `stable' and `frozen' will disappear until it is nearly time to release slink. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
missing /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout libs
When it rains, it pours! :-) Does anyone know what package contains the various libraries found in /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout? I'm missing these files for some reason and many packages want them! Right now, all I have are some bad symlinks in that subdir. A grep of /var/lib/dpkg/info doesn't show anything and I was wondering what package I'd have to reinstall to get those back. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org .| / / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Heavy X11 and SVGATextMode and SVGAlib error
Hi, I have the latest (very unstable) hamm,frozen,slink - mix installed on my System. During theses updates suddenly all Graphical-Systems didn't work any more. X11 Version 3.2.2:Segmentation fault SVGAlib:Segmentation fault SVGATextMode:Dont know (Display crashes totally :- ) XF86Setup: Same as SVGATextMode My kernel was compiled with gcc 2.8.1 from the debian kernel-package 2.0.33. I could imagine a Hardware-Error, but Win95 works fine on the this system. Everything else (Sound, Network ...: no problems) Thanx a lot for any help cya florina attenberger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail: rsmtp spools all mail
It seems that after I upgraded smail to 3.2.0.92-3, rsmtp now spools all mail, i.e. it behaves as if it were called with -odq. Is there a way to restore the old behavior of immediate delivery? I can't find a config option for this. rsmtp also refuses to take the -odf parameter, so a wrapper won't help. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] See another pointless homepage at URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
it says i do not have some file in err /var/lib/deity/cache/... made my apt-get or something..??? so i can not get it to run I'll grab a copy and have a look. Are there any known, serious bugs? Well, other than not actually installing packages? :) The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also very close to completion). Scott (note, I just compile the Deity snapshots and haven't actually contributed significant code). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-I- XDM Works Great.. Thanks!
Hey thanks a lot guys, XDM is working great. I just need to make a few modifications since the remote system's video card can't handle high res and high color depth so my background looks.. heheh crappy. Nonetheless, thanks to everyone to helped me out here! Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.xsession
$man fvwm2 | grep xterm -geometry +1000+1000 -B 10 will always show up in the upper-left hand corner of the visible portion of the screen. It is permissible to spec ify geometries which place windows on the virtual desktop, but off the screen. For example, if the visible screen is 1000 by 1000 pixels, and the desktop size is 3x3, and the current viewport is at the upper left hand corner of the desktop, then invoking: xterm -geometry +1000+1000 $ I tried to put the line xterm -geometry +1600+1 in my .xsession, so that I will get an xterm in the 2nd page of my desk. But it didn't work. The xterm was put in the 1st page. 1) How should I do it ? 2) Where can I look for documantation about customizing the X windows (not neccesarily the window manager) ? It seems to me that most of the documantation is about the instalation of Xfree86 and the window manager customization. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More on XDM?
Hm... i originally thought my wallpaper sucked up all the resources... but even when I take it off, I cannot run one of my programs in workable color anymore. And... it works fine if I xdm to another server aside my own on the same terminal so it is not the terminal. I looked into the .Xresources but all it seems to talk about is how to setup the login screen. Where do I go to increase color depth allocation per user? I want to have maximized resources allocated Thanks in advance guys! Debian 1.3R6 running XDM-Shadow Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi im Sandra
On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 11:34:05PM -0500, GILLILIGAN wrote: From: GILLILIGAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi im Sandra Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:22:59 EST Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hi my name is Sandra i am an 18 year old model from Italy..Me and my friends made a webpage with our pictures on it...tell me if im pretty.. A HREF=http://www.angelfire.com/nj/iconz/index.html;Click here to see our pictures/A why the hell are AOL people even allowed to post here? It seems that all they ever do is spam. Besides, its not like you can use aol software in linux, they really have no business here. pgpqEZbTKhYmI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ext2fs resize?
Waye-Ian CHIEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm presently trying to shuffle and resize several partitions on a disk device without losing data. Can the ext2fs resize itself? That is, can the filesystem shrink or grow in size to accommondate a resized partition? Is there a tool to do this? None that I know of. Can the ext2fs move itself? If the whole filesystem is moved up or down (relative to the start of the partition), will it still work? Don't move the filesystem relative to the partition, move the partition instead. All operation of a filesystem are done relative to the partitions start so a relocation within the partition will not work. If you have some free space or an unused partition you can use either tar or cp (with the -a parameter) to copy your partitions around, make room for bigger ones, format them and restore the contents of the partition back. BE CAREFUL and if you can create a full backup use your chance. Torsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscape 4 not working
Hi, X works again (gcc 2.8.1 was a big mistake by me). Yet I get Bus Error, when i start netscape. Maybe this could help to find the error (I don't know anything) $ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40057000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006c000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40097000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40135000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40138000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401f6000) Thanx so much -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Imlib compilation error
First I would like to extend a thanks to all of you who helped me with my imake madness problem. Since then, I have installed the GNU autoconf in the hopes that *it* might work. At this time, I am having problems at the gdk_imlib make install. I get the following two error messages: gdk_imlib_types.h:7: gdk/gdk.h : No such file or directory gdk_imlib_types.h:8: gdk/gdkprivate.h: No such file or directory make : *** [cache.o] Error 1 Does anyone have any idea what I need to do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout libs
Maybe you just need to remove the symlinks. I notice that my /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout directory is empty (hamm). Randy Edwards wrote: When it rains, it pours! :-) Does anyone know what package contains the various libraries found in /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout? I'm missing these files for some reason and many packages want them! Right now, all I have are some bad symlinks in that subdir. A grep of /var/lib/dpkg/info doesn't show anything and I was wondering what package I'd have to reinstall to get those back. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi im Sandra
Norbert Veber writes: why the hell are AOL people even allowed to post here? For the same reason you are: to get help with Debian. Besides, its not like you can use aol software in linux, they really have no business here. There is no rule that says that you can only post to this mailing list from Linux. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple smail questions
Otavio Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi all, I'm using Debian 1.3 bo with a 2.0.29 kernel; my smail installation is preety standard; I have a permanent connection to the internet; smail is working fine for most everything here; ..but I still have some questions.. see if you can help me, please: - I saw a message here stating (not in these words) that smail is dead; use exim instead; is it true? I can see that smail is still (according to Debian) the reccomended MTA for Debian! note that I'm not spam-asking which one you use! :-) Well I just switched over to my own hacked version of exim, and I have to say that it (now) has almost everything I could want in a mailer. If my adjustments were cleaner, I'd send them upstream. - on the subject of moving files from /var/spool/smail/error to /var/spoll/smail: I did just that yesterday and the files are still there.. I'm afraid my crond is *not* calling runq. how do I make sure runq is beeing called? there is a /etc/smail/crontab but I don't see how crond would find it there.. You shouldn't be moving them to /var/spool/smail/ - you should be moving them to /var/spool/smail/input/ - and I believe that /etc/smail/crontab is installed as the crontab for the user mail during the package install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tin
When I try to post an article using tin, I'm getting the message: Error: Bad charset for non-7bit encoding (must not be us-ascii) Anyone know why that is? What can I change us-ascii to that will make this work? I need to be able to post to c.o.l.m again. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AWE64, kernel 2.1.91
I'm having a little trouble setting up my AWE64. I've followed Brinkmann's AWE 32/64 HOWTO and I think I'm close to getting it to work. I have set up isapnp.conf as suggested, and verified all of the numbers against those in my win95 drivers. However, when I boot up, it appears that only the awe_wave modules is being correctly installed. Take a look at my /dev/sndstat: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux red 2.1.91 #2 SMP Sun Mar 29 04:14:32 EST 1998 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: Synth devices: 0: AWE32-0.4.2c (RAM512k) Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: AWE32 Equalizer Any ideas? There WERE a couple things it said to set up in the kernel that don't seem to exist in 2.1.91, and I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Specifically /dev/dsp and /dev/audio support doesn't seem to be in 2.1.x kernels, and MIDI interface support is missing too. Looking forward to any suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .xsession
I'm sure I dont' understand your question... 2) Where can I look for documantation about customizing the X windows (not neccesarily the window manager) ? It seems to me that most of the documantation is about the instalation of Xfree86 and the window manager customization. fvwm2 is, of course the window manager but its' documentation include customization of the windows appearing on the x-display so managed. There is PLENTY of documentation about the underlying X system (see xbooks for example) but that is of little use to most people. You might want to install and look at the dotfile generator program. It has documentation about configuring the behaviour and appearance of windows on the x-display (just be prepared to experiment quite a bit). I don't know about question 1 as I have not tried to use that capability but suspect that there is a parameter in fvwm2's configuration that determine if 'out of bounds' geometry gets mapped to the 'current' page or not. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portslave on hamm
Has anyone gotten portslave to work on a hamm system? I am using .16 of portslave, and no matter what I do on the hamm box, I get PAP authentication errors, while an identical bo box (both with 32 ports) authenticates fine. I'm running cistron's radiusd on both boxes, and the radtest runs fine against either system... Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Now and then an innocent man is sent to the legislature. ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi im Sandra
Let me start by saying that I have no particular love for AOL. AOL has proven to be a real PITA for me several times (including necessitating my putting together a Windoz box to access one of their accounts for business purposes). However, having said that, I believe that AOL is a 'responsible' ISP and even though they have 'more than their share' of problem accounts it is clear that they do (and have for many years) taken action against abusers on their systems. In addition, I have seen (what I think) is a proportionally large number of email spam messages with an AOL account or source forged into the headers. In addition, I have personally received many messages from AOL concerning abuse reports and while I can not prove the assertions, it certainly looks to me as though AOL does try to prevent abuse of their system. -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk1.1-runtime
Jeff Shilt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just downloaded biss-awt_0.87-1 and the web page says there are no depends, etc but during installation I found out it needs jdk1.1-runtime. Where is this package? Does jdk1.1-dev provide this or should I just ignore depends? See www.jimpick.org HTH, Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what serve the file in the /dev directory
Hello i need to know what serve the files in the /dev directory,it's because i did some experiment trying to build a boot/root disk set (sort of rescue disk and a good way to learn about linux),i copied all the files in the /dev directory to a floppy disk (the root disk in question) using this method: cd /dev find . -print | cpio -pmd /mnt/dev i also copied the needed library for bash ( libreadline.so.2, libncurses.so.3.0, libdl.so.1 and libc.so.5 ) but now,i lack the space needed for copying bash,does anyone here know where i can get the information i need to safely prune the /dev directory without erasing something important ?? thanks a lot for your help !! Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libc6-dev dependencies
Why does libc6-dev depend specifically on kernel-headers 2.0.32? Why won't 2.0.33 suffice, or kernel-source-2.0.33? It seems that I should only have to have one of any of the kernel headers/source packages installed at any one time. Thanks, Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
