Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, Je souhaite profiter d'un déménagement pour mettre à jour l'OS d'un serveur actuellement sous Squeeze. Le déménagement aura lieu en Janvier, soit, si tout ce passe comme prévu, devrait précéder de quelques semaines la publication officielle de Jessie. Aussi, dans l'intérêt du client, je

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Wallace
Pour la mise à jour mon conseil c'est de bien faire toutes les mises à jour du serveur actuel, puis mise à jour Wheezy puis Jessie. Le tout avec apt-get dist-upgrade à relancer tant qu'il y a des mises à jour pour chaque étape. Un petit apt-get autoclean voir un autoremove avant les mises à jour

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 20/11/2014 13:15, Wallace a écrit : Pour la mise à jour mon conseil c'est de bien faire toutes les mises à jour du serveur actuel, puis mise à jour Wheezy puis Jessie. Le tout avec apt-get dist-upgrade à relancer tant qu'il y a des mises à jour pour chaque étape. Un petit apt-get autoclean

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread maderios
On 11/20/2014 12:41 PM, Olivier wrote: - Sans polémique aucune, l'inclusion de systemd devrait-elle m'inciter à une installation à partir des CD plutôt qu'un dist-upgrade (ou plutôt deux dist-upgrade successifs dans le cas d'un passage intermédiaire à Wheezy) ? Y-a-t-il des précautions

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Wallace
Le 20/11/2014 13:42, Erwan David a écrit : Le 20/11/2014 13:15, Wallace a écrit : Pour la mise à jour mon conseil c'est de bien faire toutes les mises à jour du serveur actuel, puis mise à jour Wheezy puis Jessie. Le tout avec apt-get dist-upgrade à relancer tant qu'il y a des mises à jour

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le jeudi 20 novembre 2014 à 12:41, Olivier a écrit : Aussi, dans l'intérêt du client, je suis tenté de passer directement de Squeeze à Jessie. Avant de le proposer, j'essaie d'évaluer les risques d'un tel saut. Avec la publication de Jessie, viendront les « notes de publication » qui

Re: [HS] Chiffrer, oui mais...

2014-11-20 Thread steve
Salut à tous, Merci pour vos réponses, toutes très intéressantes. La proposition de Gaël (schleuder) m'a paru la plus prometteuse, et j'ai donc essayé de l'utiliser. Or, le script de création de liste, schleuder-newlist, boucle juste après avoir créé la paire de clefs. Rien trouvé sur

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 20/11/2014 14:19, Wallace a écrit : Le 20/11/2014 13:42, Erwan David a écrit : Le 20/11/2014 13:15, Wallace a écrit : Pour la mise à jour mon conseil c'est de bien faire toutes les mises à jour du serveur actuel, puis mise à jour Wheezy puis Jessie. Le tout avec apt-get dist-upgrade à

Re: Libpam-mount et accents dans les fichiers Windows...

2014-11-20 Thread Haricophile
Le Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:26:20 +0100, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit : Finalement, le problème venait du bloc-notes qui, par défaut, n'écrit pas en utf8. Avec un autre programme ou même à partir du bloc-notes en forçant l'écriture en utf8, tout roule des 2 côtés... Désolé pour le

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Guy Roussin
Bonjour, Je serais beaucoup plus confiant pour une installation de jessie que pour un upgrade. Il y a pas mal de paquets qui sont en cours de correction dans wheezy pour préparer cet upgrade. Donc pour résumer: - installer un nouveau serveur en jessie : oui peut-être - upgrader un serveur wheezy

Re: Libpam-mount et accents dans les fichiers Windows...

2014-11-20 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le jeudi 20 novembre 2014 à 13:57, Haricophile a écrit : C'est pas du bruit mais un problème Microsoft : A défaut de pouvoir désisintaller le [###CENSORED-18###]^h^h^h^h^h^h notepad de MSDOS^h^h^h^h^h Windows programmé en 8 bits et dont la résilience est pour moi un mystère digne de la Nuit

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Samy Mezani
Bonjour, Le 20/11/2014 14:47, Erwan David a écrit : Merci pour la référence. Si je change ça sera pour FreeBSD, quand en plus je vois copmment systemd est en train de tout phagocuyter en réinventant les bugs connus depuis 20 ans (cf le trou de cache poisoning dans systemd-resolved), je n'ai

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread steve
Le 20-11-2014, à 16:50:57 +0100, Samy Mezani a écrit : Je croyais que systemd serait installé *par défaut* oui mais ne serait pas le seul gestionnaire de services proposé dans Jessie. Me fourvoyerais-je ? ça discute beaucoup semble-t-il... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de

Re: Libpam-mount et accents dans les fichiers Windows...

2014-11-20 Thread C. Mourad Jaber
Le 20/11/2014 13:57, Haricophile a écrit : Le Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:26:20 +0100, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit : Finalement, le problème venait du bloc-notes qui, par défaut, n'écrit pas en utf8. Avec un autre programme ou même à partir du bloc-notes en forçant l'écriture en utf8, tout

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Stéphane GARGOLY
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le jeudi 20 novembre 2014 à 11:41, Olivier oza.4...@gmail.com a écrit : Aussi, dans l'intérêt du client, je suis tenté de passer directement de Squeeze à Jessie. Avant de le proposer, j'essaie d'évaluer les risques d'un tel saut.

Re: Conseils sur l'installation de Jessie sur un serveur avant sa publication officielle

2014-11-20 Thread Stéphane GARGOLY
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le jeudi 20 novembre 2014 à 23:08, Stéphane GARGOLY stephane.garg...@gmail.com a écrit : Note b : Consulter la page http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch- ftparchives#s-frozen pour comprendre comment une version auparavant

Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
Buenas, Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro. Pues ayer se publicaron los resultados: https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/, con la opción ganadora de General

OT Re: plugin de flash

2014-11-20 Thread Antonio Trujillo Carmona
El mié, 19-11-2014 a las 14:16 +, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:49:06 +0100, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: Hola compañeros. Tengo un problema raro que me tiene un poco liado, aunque la solución esta rozando los dedos se me escapa. Tengo que administrar un VMware

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Manolo Díaz
El jueves, 20 nov 2014 a las 08:55 horas (UTC+1), C. L. Martinez escribió: Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro. [...] ¿Eh? Pues no es eso lo que tenía entendido. Esa GR no

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Thursday 20 November 2014 07:55:34 C. L. Martinez wrote: Buenas, Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro. No, la GR era para decidir si un paquete puede/debe depender

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 07:55:34AM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro. La GR *no* trataba sobre eso. En jessie el sistema de inicio

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-20 10:36 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso lftab...@yahoo.es: On Thursday 20 November 2014 07:55:34 C. L. Martinez wrote: Buenas, Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Ricardo Delgado
El día 20 de noviembre de 2014, 8:01, C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: 2014-11-20 10:36 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso lftab...@yahoo.es: On Thursday 20 November 2014 07:55:34 C. L. Martinez wrote: Buenas, Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Thursday 20 November 2014 10:20:24 Ricardo Delgado wrote: El día 20 de noviembre de 2014, 8:01, C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: 2014-11-20 10:36 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso lftab...@yahoo.es: On Thursday 20 November 2014 07:55:34 C. L. Martinez wrote: Buenas,

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:01:07AM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: 2014-11-20 10:36 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso lftab...@yahoo.es: Debian puede seguir funcionando sin systemd Lo dudo y mucho. Como poco, tendrá que haber un package que emule a systemd a nivel de gestión de PID's. Otro

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:20:24AM -0300, Ricardo Delgado wrote: desde el simple hecho de tirar un dmesg ¿Qué le pasa a dmesg? o tratar de ver los logs. ¿Qué le pasa a /var/log/syslog? Si no te gusta journalctl todavía puedes usar los logs de siempre. ¿Qué problema tienes? -- To

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-20 14:00 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:01:07AM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: 2014-11-20 10:36 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso lftab...@yahoo.es: Debian puede seguir funcionando sin systemd Lo dudo y mucho. Como poco, tendrá que haber un

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 06:08:32AM -0800, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: [...] Please do not feed the troll. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

RE: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez
Buen dia, El tema es que SystemD esta enfocado a un EndUser tipo Windows, y Nosotros que trabajamos dia a dia con Debian en servidores y centros de Datos, perdemos control sobre uno de los aspectos mas importantes que es manejar sevicios de manera idependiente y Facil Lo dire y seguire

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-20 14:07 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:20:24AM -0300, Ricardo Delgado wrote: desde el simple hecho de tirar un dmesg ¿Qué le pasa a dmesg? o tratar de ver los logs. ¿Qué le pasa a /var/log/syslog? Si no te gusta journalctl todavía puedes usar

Re: OT Re: plugin de flash

2014-11-20 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:34:25 +0100, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El mié, 19-11-2014 a las 14:16 +, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:49:06 +0100, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: Hola compañeros. Tengo un problema raro que me tiene un poco liado, aunque la solución

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Thursday 20 November 2014 14:33:06 C. L. Martinez wrote: 2014-11-20 14:07 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:20:24AM -0300, Ricardo Delgado wrote: desde el simple hecho de tirar un dmesg ¿Qué le pasa a dmesg? o tratar de ver los logs. ¿Qué le

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Ricardo C. N.
El 20 de noviembre de 2014, 8:31, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez franksanab...@live.com.co escribió: Buen dia, El tema es que SystemD esta enfocado a un EndUser tipo Windows, y Nosotros que trabajamos dia a dia con Debian en servidores y centros de Datos, perdemos control sobre uno de los

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:55:34 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: Buenas, Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro. (...) Me temo que la GR tenía un trasfondo más profundo que

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-20 15:38 GMT+00:00 Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso taber...@unican.es: On Thursday 20 November 2014 14:33:06 C. L. Martinez wrote: 2014-11-20 14:07 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:20:24AM -0300, Ricardo Delgado wrote: desde el simple hecho de tirar un

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:49:14 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El jueves, 20 nov 2014 a las 08:55 horas (UTC+1), C. L. Martinez escribió: Como muchos ya sabéis, se realizó un GR para intentar salvar el sistema de arranque, bien mediante dando alternativas a los usuarios o bien seleccionando otro.

Conectando un servidor ircd a otro

2014-11-20 Thread Fabián Bonetti
Hola, gente. Tengo un servidor ircd montado en puerto 6667 . Ahora lo que quería hacer es montar otro con e el puerto 6668 y linkearlo al primero. Ando trabajando con el paquete dancer-ircd. No logro traducir bien el manual ya que esta en ingles y no tengo experiencia de linkearlo. Logre

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 04:18:49PM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: Vaya tela. O sea que hemos pasado de archivos de log puro en texto a formato binario, con el consiguente problema de corrupción de datos y pérdida de info. No hay consiguiente. Las bases de datos mysql también se guardan en

Re: Conectando un servidor ircd a otro

2014-11-20 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:39:09 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: Tengo un servidor ircd montado en puerto 6667 . Ahora lo que quería hacer es montar otro con e el puerto 6668 y linkearlo al primero. Ando trabajando con el paquete dancer-ircd. No logro traducir bien el manual ya que esta en

Re: Conectando un servidor ircd a otro

2014-11-20 Thread Fabián Bonetti
En el enlace que mandas hay un ejemplo de configuración para enlazar 3 servidores con las líneas C/N correspondientes además de que el archivo de configuración del propio servicio incluye explicaciones y ejemplos para cada opción. Mira a ver qué tienes puesto en el archivo de

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread Salvador Garcia Z.
A ver, systemd no me gusta para nada. He bajado el código y su estructura es algo extraño. Encierra todos los servicios y demonios, lo que da una sensación de control absoluto sobre el sistema. Pero el control necesito tenerlo yo y no un sistema de inicio. Algunas empresas que administró y otras

Ayuda para reparar modo gráfico XFCE

2014-11-20 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Por un cuelgue grave ocasionado por un apagón eléctrico (se quedó sin luz la ciudad) mientras estaba actualizando paquetes una PC quedó hecha un desastre sin siquiera botear. La arreglé como pude y, de esa forma, he podido ingresar al sistema tanto como root como así también como usuario. El

Re: Ayuda para reparar modo gráfico XFCE (SOLUCIONADO)

2014-11-20 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Con fecha Jueves, 20 de Noviembre de 2014, 10:51:37 p.m., Eduardo escribió: Por un cuelgue grave ocasionado por un apagón eléctrico (se quedó sin luz la ciudad) mientras estaba actualizando paquetes una PC quedó hecha un desastre sin siquiera botear. La arreglé como pude y, de esa forma, he

La nueva colección de invierno ¡Visitala!

2014-11-20 Thread Deportedirecto.es
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La nueva colección de invierno ¡Visitala!

2014-11-20 Thread Deportedirecto.es
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Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-20 17:52 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 04:18:49PM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: Vaya tela. O sea que hemos pasado de archivos de log puro en texto a formato binario, con el consiguente problema de corrupción de datos y pérdida de info. No hay

Re: reescrever links internos para externos no apache

2014-11-20 Thread Flavio Menezes dos Reis
Fred, Não seria melhor que teu teu apache, mesmo para rede interna, atende-se em www.empresax.com.br, nem que seja através de um VirtualHost, já que ele está de cara pra internet? Assim não vais precisar de mais nada. Em 20 de novembro de 2014 00:29, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com

Fwd: [PSL-Brasil] Prêmio AREDE 2014 para DiasporaBR

2014-11-20 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
-- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: anah...@anahuac.eu Data: 20 de novembro de 2014 01:07 Assunto: [PSL-Brasil] Prêmio AREDE 2014 para DiasporaBR Para: PSL-Brasil psl-bra...@listas.softwarelivre.org Em dezembro de 2013 nasceu o DiasporaBR: o primeiro POD da famosa rede social

Re: reescrever links internos para externos no apache

2014-11-20 Thread Ednardo Lobo
Fred, Se entendi bem, você tem um website que precisa ser acessado interna (http://apacheinterno.redeinterna/sitex/) e externamente (http://www.empresax.com.br/sitex/) usando endereços distintos. Considerando que ambos os endereços estão apontados adequadamente para os endereços IPs

Re: Servidor de E-mail Virtual

2014-11-20 Thread Ednardo Lobo
Vitor, Estou hoje estudando o Exim como solução para servidor de SMTP para minhas necessidades. Atualmente uso o qmail, mas estou com a intenção de abandoná-lo. Sei que o que procura é um servidor POP com autenticação que não seja através do tradicional /etc/passwd. Também irei necessitar

Re: reescrever links internos para externos no apache

2014-11-20 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 20 de novembro de 2014 07:18, Flavio Menezes dos Reis flavio-r...@pge.rs.gov.br escreveu: Fred, Não seria melhor que teu teu apache, mesmo para rede interna, atende-se em www.empresax.com.br, nem que seja através de um VirtualHost, já que ele está de cara pra internet? já tem outro

Re: reescrever links internos para externos no apache

2014-11-20 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 20 de novembro de 2014 08:35, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu: Fred, Se entendi bem, você tem um website que precisa ser acessado interna (http://apacheinterno.redeinterna/sitex/) e externamente (http://www.empresax.com.br/sitex/) usando endereços distintos. o crítico é só os

Re: reescrever links internos para externos no apache

2014-11-20 Thread Fred Maranhão
achei exatamente o que preciso. é o libapache2-mod-proxy-html mas quando eu boto a diretiva ProxyHTMLURLMap e X nada acontece (era para aparecer um monte de X no texto) e se boto ProxyHTMLEnable On acontece isto # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart Syntax error on line 7 of

Re: Sintaxe dns

2014-11-20 Thread P. J.
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/wheezy/sect.domain-name-servers.html Em 20/11/14, Leandroleandro...@gmail.com escreveu: Opa tudo certo? Você disse pra ler a documentacao acredito claro do bind,porem tentei nos docs do proprio pacote no SO,mas nao caminhei,ficaria grato se você me ajudasse

Re: wheezy php5 upgrade -- lots of cron emails

2014-11-20 Thread Hakan Siktas
There is already another update to fix this: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00264.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00264.html Just installing it solved the problem for me. Am 20.11.2014 um 08:12 schrieb Tad Bak t@uws.edu.au: After

Re: wheezy php5 upgrade -- lots of cron emails

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 18:12, Tad Bak wrote: After the recent php5 security upgrade on wheezy (libapache2-mod-php5, php5-cli and php5-common) my cron started to generate a lot of e-mails: From: Cron Daemon root@... To: root@... Subject: Cron root@... [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -x

Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin joke, was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/20 15:17 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com: [...] Interesting that the allusion to awk and sed, missed the mark, on this list... :) [...] Just too pre-occupied to respond, although my memory is that the names were chosen in part for those puns. Joel Rees Computer memory is just

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:56:51 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system, it makes udev eating all my memory, and more. Could you please open a bugreport against

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 20/11/14 12:45, Martin Read wrote: On 20/11/14 01:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/11/14 04:06, Morel Bérenger wrote: I think it's msdos. AFAIK mdos partition tables don't support anywhere near that number of slices. :( MS-DOS partition tables support any number

Re: No Google bubble? (was: systemd for administrators, printable version.)

2014-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-19, martin f krafft madd...@debian.org wrote: Google has more ways to identify you than cookies or a login token, Well, we're talking now about the filtering of search results for dubious motives. Someone posted a link to a web page that looked liked it was written and designed

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/11/14 20:13, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 20/11/14 12:45, Martin Read wrote: On 20/11/14 01:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/11/14 04:06, Morel Bérenger wrote: I think it's msdos. AFAIK mdos partition tables don't support anywhere near that number of slices. :(

Re: Qemu host drive basics.

2014-11-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 19 Nov 23:58 -0600, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:20:48 -0600 ... should have been 'groups peter'. peter@armada:~$ groups peter peter : peter adm cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev Group membership is OK.

Re: The systemd MacGuffin

2014-11-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Marty wrote: On 11/18/2014 10:15 AM, Keith Peter wrote: On 18/11/2014, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Marty wrote: I started posting here when, after years of promoting Linux to friends and employers and finally seeing much progress, my company started phasing out Debian

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-20 Thread Amodelo
Am 19.11.2014 um 09:48 schrieb Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com: On 19/11/14 18:05, Erwan David wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said: On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at

[stable] OpenGL problem:bay trail

2014-11-20 Thread dE
Hi. I've a bay trail processor with HD graphics. I've enabled hardware Firefox hardware acceleration (downloaded from Mozilla) but it's extremely slow; not at par to this graphics chip. Even the GTK UI and scrolling is slow at 1024x768 resolution. I thought this was an upstream problem, but

Re: [stable] OpenGL problem:bay trail

2014-11-20 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 09:48:18PM +0530, dE wrote: Hi. I've a bay trail processor with HD graphics. I've enabled hardware Firefox hardware acceleration (downloaded from Mozilla) but it's extremely slow; not at par to this graphics chip. Even the GTK UI and scrolling is slow at 1024x768

Custom libvirt (was: Jessie: upgrading libvirt-daemon-system now installs systemd, removes sysvinit-core?)

2014-11-20 Thread Schrey
Me wrote: [libvirt 1.2.9-3 dependencies] Well, I ended up compiling my own libvirt package(s) for Jessie. Posting here, maybe this is of use to someone. 1. Grab your favourite build environment (I used pbuilder / dpkg-buildpackage) 2. Install build dependencies (those below are matched to

curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-20 Thread Teresa e Junior
Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error I have done some research, and found suggestions that `curl --sslv3' should work, but

Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread D. R. Evans
I just installed wheezy on a new system, and no matter what I have tried, I am unable to get the attached monitor to display at 1920x1200. All my other systems display at that resolution when attached to the same monitor. I won't bore you with all the things I've tried without success. (At least,

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 nov 14, 12:05:11, D. R. Evans wrote: I just installed wheezy on a new system, and no matter what I have tried, I am unable to get the attached monitor to display at 1920x1200. All my other systems display at that resolution when attached to the same monitor. I won't bore you with

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-20 Thread songbird
Teresa e Junior wrote: Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error I have done some research, and found suggestions that

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 01:48, Amodelo wrote: Am 19.11.2014 um 09:48 schrieb Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com: On 19/11/14 18:05, Erwan David wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said: On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +, Jonathan Dowland

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Scott Ferguson a écrit : Might be worth fscking the disk first in case that's where the problem lies. Why ? fsck works on filesystems, not disks or partition tables. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-20 Thread Teresa e Junior
Hello, songbird! On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:45:42 -0500, songbird wrote: i'm certainly not a wizard when it comes to this sort of thing, but have you tried --sslv2 instead? curl --sslv2 https://www.basebit.com.br curl: (4) OpenSSL was built without SSLv2 support Teresa e Junior -- To

USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Roth
Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't help. Now I am noticing that when I've left the USB keyboard idle, the first keystroke or two is lost. I also

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Andrei POPESCU wrote on 11/20/2014 12:19 PM: On Jo, 20 nov 14, 12:05:11, D. R. Evans wrote: I just installed wheezy on a new system, and no matter what I have tried, I am unable to get the attached monitor to display at 1920x1200. All my other systems display at that resolution when attached

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/20/2014 12:24 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't help. Now I am noticing that when I've left the USB keyboard idle, the

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 nov 14, 13:30:09, D. R. Evans wrote: I updated the ASPEED driver to make sure that it was the current version. Just in case it would help, I enabled the wheezy deb-multimedia repository and did a dist-upgrade (it made no difference). ... The only thing I know about the ast

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/20/2014 11:05 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: I just installed wheezy on a new system, and no matter what I have tried, I am unable to get the attached monitor to display at 1920x1200. All my other systems display at that resolution when attached to the same monitor. I won't bore you with all the

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 21/11/14 01:48, Amodelo wrote: Am 19.11.2014 um 09:48 schrieb Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com: On 19/11/14 18:05, Erwan David wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 05:34:20PM CET, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk said: On Tue 18 Nov 2014 at 10:56:58 +,

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 07:24, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't help. Now I am noticing that when I've left the USB keyboard idle,

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 06:45, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Scott Ferguson a écrit : Might be worth fscking the disk first in case that's where the problem lies. Why ? fsck works on filesystems, not disks or partition tables. Good question - because I didn't spend much time thinking about it, or, because I

apt-get source download has files not in git repository

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I'm trying to build the dbus package from source. I can do it the usual way: apt-get source cd dbus-1.18.10 debuild -uc -us -b However, I would like to use the git repository. apt-get source helpfully announces: NOTICE: 'dbus' packaging is maintained in the 'Git' version control

Re: Custom libvirt (was: Jessie: upgrading libvirt-daemon-system now installs systemd, removes sysvinit-core?)

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Schrey debian-u...@schreyben.de wrote: Me wrote: [libvirt 1.2.9-3 dependencies] Well, I ended up compiling my own libvirt package(s) for Jessie. Posting here, maybe this is of use to someone. 1. Grab your favourite build environment (I used pbuilder /

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread D. R. Evans
Andrei POPESCU wrote on 11/20/2014 02:03 PM: your adapter. It might be prudent to give more details about where you obtained it from (e.g. the download page). I downloaded it from: http://www.asus.com/us/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/P9DE4L/HelpDesk_Download/ Select Linux, then VGA.

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Roth
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:56:31PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 11/20/2014 12:24 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread lee
D. R. Evans doc.ev...@gmail.com writes: I just installed wheezy on a new system, and no matter what I have tried, I am unable to get the attached monitor to display at 1920x1200. All my other systems display at that resolution when attached to the same monitor. I won't bore you with all the

Re: simple, dumb question

2014-11-20 Thread koanhead
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:00:03 +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 19 nov 14, 21:25:52, koanhead wrote: I have had to pin the systemd package -1 to prevent it being reinstalled on upgrades or on dist-upgrades... Please do report bugs if apt-get still tries to replace sysvinit-core with

Re: Qt version of gnuplot strange message

2014-11-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20141118_0932+, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:03:41PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: The newer version of gnuplot is issuing a warning that I have never seen before: Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/20/2014 03:38 PM, Joel Roth wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:56:31PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 11/20/2014 12:24 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread Mark Neyhart
On 11/20/2014 02:00 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote on 11/20/2014 02:03 PM: your adapter. It might be prudent to give more details about where you obtained it from (e.g. the download page). I downloaded it from:

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread dE
On 11/21/14 01:54, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse, but it didn't help. Now I am noticing that when I've left the USB keyboard idle, the

Re: [stable] OpenGL problem:bay trail

2014-11-20 Thread dE
On 11/20/14 22:00, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 09:48:18PM +0530, dE wrote: Hi. I've a bay trail processor with HD graphics. I've enabled hardware Firefox hardware acceleration (downloaded from Mozilla) but it's extremely slow; not at par to this graphics chip. Even the GTK UI

Re: USB problem, hardware issue? - RESOLVED

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Roth
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:56:31PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Do you have a liveOS on a cd/usb you can run as a test? Good idea! I tried booting Rescatux, and didn't see any trace of problems with the USB input devices. Confirmed that the input devices play better with a different kernel

Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-20 Thread Ross Boylan
Over the last week I've repeatedly found my machine unbootable, in the sense I couldn't get to a working system without intervention. Sometimes I couldn't even get the grub2 menu. Things are OK now, but I'm trying to understand what went wrong so I don't do it again. I had multiple disks and was

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread dE
On 11/21/14 09:41, Joel Roth wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:07:23AM +0530, dE wrote: On 11/21/14 01:54, Joel Roth wrote: Dear List, I started noticing a delay between when I start moving the mouse on my T410 (running sid), and when the cursor actually starts to move. I replaced the mouse,

Re: Problems with grub2/initramfs-tools in chroot

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote: Over the last week I've repeatedly found my machine unbootable, in the sense I couldn't get to a working system without intervention. Sometimes I couldn't even get the grub2 menu. Tick Things are OK now, but I'm trying to understand what went wrong so

Re: USB problem, hardware issue?

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:48:35AM +0530, dE wrote: Anything in dmesg? lsmod has USB 2.0 drivers loaded? Chances are udev is loading the wrong kernel modules. Compare output of lspci -k from the livecd with with your running Debian system. Also update your initramfs with update-initramfs

Re: Q: wheezy: how to increase X resolution?

2014-11-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 nov 14, 16:00:23, D. R. Evans wrote: The update (auto-update.sh) executed without error with the message: ASPEED Graphics Family Linux XORG 7.7 driver update finished I'll stop with a stab in the dark: I see from your Xorg.0.log that you're running the -amd64 kernel. Could it be

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 nov 14, 16:02:26, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: Google search-term results depend on many things, As I've previously stated - and provided factors, twice. Context shouldn't be hard to grasp, don't you think? You know, Google is your friend on such things:

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