Re: Question about APT's config on Debian (not an actual issue)

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:00:43AM +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering how the following Ubuntu-isms made it into Debian's APT configuration: cbell@circe:~$ apt-config dump | egrep 'verse|ubuntu' APT::NeverAutoRemove::

Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:59:38AM +, Dom wrote: I think it would have been nice to have a warning of this change of behaviour. I have apt-listchanges installed and I'm sure it didn't notify me of any changes. True, but there was a discussion on debian-devel titled: /tmp as tmpfs and

Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 02:54:30AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:59:38AM +, Dom wrote: I think it would have been nice to have a warning of this change of behaviour. I have apt-listchanges installed and I'm sure it didn't notify me of any changes. True

Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:32:44PM +, Camaleón wrote: Okay, it is important to use the right syntax for the CD to be properly recognized. You should never try and manually enter the CDROM into your sources.list, always use apt-cdrom. Although, the installer usually handles that for you.

Re: General unstability on wheezy (unstable repository)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: Hi All, During the last few months I've been experiencing an increasing instability on my systems running wheezy. This used to be a good quality repository and good compromise between stability and new features for a desktop

Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please, don't top post!] On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 04:56:07PM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: I have lynx installed on my machine, and tried a quick look at it, but is not immediately obvious how to get the URL for a link. Start lynx, press 'o' The options menu will appear. Press the 'down arrow'

Re: rsync

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:44:31AM +0800, lina wrote: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you don't mind some English correction... You should say something like my confusion is why it stopped copying the rest Thank you (I read The

RUTE (was Re: wireless is disabled)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please, trim your posts!] On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:32:45PM +0800, lina wrote: I have downloaded the RUTE, but seems it's html version (have not found the pdf version), http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2 I started the downloaded html RUTE by launching $ iceweasel rute.html Why

Re: rsync

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 08:19:40AM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: On Sunday 04 March 2012 06:53:37 am Chris Bannister wrote: Thank you (I read The Grammar of English Grammars by Goold Brown. finished 35 of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day). Just be aware, the Americans have

Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:51:17AM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just checked one that is 537 characters long. So, far, with middle mouse button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom of

[OT] sorry, bad url reference

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:30:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Have a look at: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101017091521AAqPonZ oops, probably not the best reference since some of the posts use bad English. Basically[1], the answer is: No, grammar is an uncountable noun

Re: [OT] sorry, bad url reference

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 01:36:24PM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: On Sunday 04 March 2012 11:40:56 am Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:30:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [1] http://thescreamonline.com/essays/essays08-01/basically.html That URL produces 406 Not Acceptable

Re: using bittorrent for backup of personal files

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:18:49PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: Thanks for any advice you may have. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/bitTorrent.html Sorry if this way off track, but it may spur some ideas? -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte

Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 02:33:04PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..I raise you qalc: ;o) Yes, I see ;o) Need to get 1,689 kB of archives. After this operation, 4,968 kB of additional disk space will be used. arnt@celsius:~$ qalc 240V*2.25A*30days*.33NOK/kWh (240 * volt * (2.25 * ampere) * (30 *

[andreimpope...@gmail.com: Re: General unstability on wheezy (unstable repository)]

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Bannister
I think he wanted to CC'd so ... - Forwarded message from Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com - Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:28:15 +0200 From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: General unstability on wheezy (unstable repository) On Lu,

Re: Latest update borks

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:20:09PM +, Heitzso wrote: Every once in awhile sid/unstable bites. This appears to be one of those times. I'd appreciate debian team posting something about this and/or how to untangle it.

Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-03-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 10:10:32PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 05:15:05 +1300, Chris wrote in message You wrote: ata_std_bios_param (9) - generic bios head/sector/cylinder calculator used by sd. Mmmm, apt-cache show sd :( ..try a Sid box: ;o) arnt@celsius:~/speil$

Re: Make not installing man pages

2012-03-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:05:35PM +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Hi All. I maintain a Debian package. There are two documents (man pages) in a sub-directory. Here is the Makefile which should be installing the two manpages into the /usr/share/man/man1 directory. Pasting installing man

Re: Cron, 1 month but 2 months

2012-03-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:35:22PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [..] arnt@nb6:~$ date ddate Fri Mar 9 15:25:34 CET 2012 Today is Pungenday, the 68th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3178 arnt@nb6:~$ ddate 14 3 2012 Pungenday, Chaos 73, 3178 YOLD arnt@nb6:~$ ddate 15 3 2012 Prickle-Prickle, Discord

Re: Automatically purging non-official packages

2012-03-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:46:59PM +, Camaleón wrote: For instance, by default ppa-purge (or a similar script) is instructed to remove non official versions of the packages in favor of the ones available in Debian repositories. Right! As its name says. :) Consider the command rm in the

Re: Cron, 1 month but 2 months

2012-03-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:46:49AM +, T o n g wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:32:36 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: root@tal:~# apt-cache show ddate N: Unable to locate package ddate E: No packages found My ddate comes with the util-linux package. root@tal:~# which ddate root@tal

Re: Automatically purging non-official packages

2012-03-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:45:35PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:20:06 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 02:46:59PM +, Camaleón wrote: For instance, by default ppa-purge (or a similar script) is instructed to remove non official versions

Unnecessary rebooting (was Re: Bash argument expanded inside alias)

2012-03-13 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please, don't top post in this mailing list] On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:47:27PM -0300, rcb wrote: seems to works inside .bashrc file! (Just 'seems' because I did not reboot, just typed in a terminal and it worked great!) You shouldn't reboot for changes you make to your .bashrc to take

Re: X-server problem

2012-03-13 Thread Chris Bannister
[CCing Andriy, (I'm guessing he is not subscribed)] Andriy, if you are subscribed please let us know. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:26:53PM +0100, Andriy Samsonyuk wrote: Hello, i am currenttly running debian 6.0 with 2.6.32-5-486 on CF-27 (toughbook) 300MHz Pentium II with 128MB RAM. I

Re: X-server problem

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Bannister
No need to CC me, I am subscribed. Note: I am running Wheezy, but I am fairly sure this applies to Squeeze. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:51:23AM +0100, Andriy Samsonyuk wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:26:53PM +0100, Andriy Samsonyuk wrote: Hello, i am currenttly running debian 6.0

Re: mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined

2012-03-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 03:58:51PM +, john gennard wrote: I've been using Debian since Slink days, but I'm now 81 and had a stroke some 30 months ago which has done severe damage to my brain. Have just built a new box and put Debian 6.04 on it. There are a number of problems with the

Re: X-server problem

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 09:02:10PM +0100, Andriy Samsonyuk wrote: LABEL=lv_var /var ext3 defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev 0 2 LABEL=lv_tmp /tmp ext3 defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev 0 2 LABEL=lv_home /home ext2 defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev 0 2 *** i simply changed LABEL=lv_* with /dev/sda?

Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 07:55:06AM +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:45:37 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: (...) Is something about connecting the bots?     Yeah. (It works with

Re: Problem with trying to instal Debian

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 03:13:39AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: The IPW thing is the firmware required for the network adaptor. I think it is IPW200 or something similar. That is why I had to use the firmware instal, and the only way availabl;e, is using the netinst ISO.

Re: I cannot log in to my debian wheezy system!

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please!, don't top post in this mailing list.] On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:36:38AM -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: Hola! I- m starting to get desperate! I found lots of instructions on the web about how to solve this, but none of them works. Example, I founmd this In grub

Re: problem with xetex access to system fonts

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 02:51:02PM +, Camaleón wrote: If the fonts are placed anywhere outside those directories/files, you have to make manual adjustments so the system can find and use them, neither aptitude nor apt nor other package manager tool can do that for you ;-) No but the

Re: problem with xetex access to system fonts

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 04:23:50PM +0800, 张启德(Zhang Qide) wrote: Hi all, I have installed texlive texlive-latex-recommended, texlive-fonts-recommended, texlive-latex-base, texlive-base, texlive-latex-extra texlive-xetex , lmodern packages on squeeze using aptitude. I test its access to

Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:45:51PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:10:07 +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: Camaleón: (...) Did you first update the packages database? apt-get update aptitude update apt-get and aptitude both use the same package database. Running

Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not

2012-03-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 04:54:39PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: Sometimes aptitude's TUI is really useful. Like yesterday, when I down-pinned debian-multimedia.org and wanted to replace all packages from there with their official Debian counterparts (if possible). Mmmm, interesting. I've

Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 05:01:57PM +0100, Alberto Fuentes wrote: On 21/03/12 07:08, Chris Bannister wrote: Remember, Aptitude's resolver system is different to apt-get's I think the problem is not the the resolver (apt-get and aptitude should get dependences about the same if not problem

Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 02:10:13PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: I reaklly like handbrake-cli, that's why I had to keep d-m.org in the end. I've only removed d-m.org from my laptop. The desktop running Lenny still and where I burn DVD/CD will still have to have d-m.org. I didn't know about

to be root or not to be root (was ... Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not)

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 04:16:32PM +, Curt wrote: On 2012-03-22, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: root@tal:~# apt-cache policy libavformat-extra-53 You don't have to be root to do that, did you know? True, I normally have a tty open for root anyway and the tty where I

Re: apt-get will upgrade aptitude will not

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 04:24:18PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: Chris Bannister: I didn't know about handbrake-cli and looks like it might replace videotrans and lxdvdrip From what I can tell from their package descriptions: not quite. I usually dump DVD contents using 'mplayer

Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:34:52PM +, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2012 15:09:57 Ken Heard wrote:  Nouns and adjectives have gender, but people have sex. The latest strident feminist PC requires gender. (It came up recently on Debian Women.) I share your objection. But then I

Re: Do a DIGITALFRAMES with DEBIAN

2012-04-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 06:20:53PM +0200, Alex Padoly wrote: Hi, I would like to do a digitalframes with my computer and my monitor. perlmagick I have Debian 6.0 with xfce, witch packages Debian I must installed and how I can do to configure xfce. Please open a separate thread for each

Re: OT:change of mail provider

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:30:44AM +0100, richard wrote: You have increased the bandwidth used with your huge sig block as well as the answer for me. +1 +please trim posts!!! -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:48:24PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'd suggest this instead: Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages by default and is, for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from console, to perform system installation, and

Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:56:57PM +0100, Nick White wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:25:10AM -0400, Tom Ashley wrote: I spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this same issue on a new motherboard. The alternative method from http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA worked for me. Thanks for the

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 06:29:19PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 2. Add these lines to /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports (or /etc/apt/preferences) : Package: * Pin: release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 500 WARNING TO STEP TWO: This will make all packages from backports have same

Re: How to boot PC-BSD from Debian

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:48:05AM -0700, Weaver wrote: [attribution snipped!!!] I booted FreeBSD from Debian's GRUB2 with no problem, also NetBSD. If you still need the link, let me know. Definitely! And thanks. I had PC-BSD installed for a while and the entire house felt as though it

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:38:30AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:55, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion about top/bottom posting :) I have never understood why though, aside from people getting

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups and then mailing lists but not for forums nor business communications. A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom Yes it does! That is

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:42:53PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I already changed to bottom posting in Iceweasel and K9 mail. But isn't posting HTML also forbidden? It isn't a matter of whether it's forbidden or not, its a matter of whether you want someone to bother taking time out to help

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 07:06:03PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 03.04.2012 17:42, Jon Dowland wrote: But, have we really had return receipts, HTML mail and top-posting all in the same thread? ☹ Yes we did, but you are forgetting GPG clearsigning vs GPG S/MIME and was there something

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:35:00AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 04 apr 12, 02:01:41, Chris Bannister wrote: For a start it is possibly all just hot air unless it is discussed on the debian-doc list and/or a patch submitted against the debian-faq package. I know that you

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 05:21:01PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Friday 06 April 2012 17:02:05 Chris Bannister wrote: Ummm, well, obviously if you have backports in your sources list you are no longer running stable. It depends on the pinning. I have it in my sources.list, but I have to ask

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 08:54:47PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Note that apt-get

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 04:33:54PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Perhaps better names would have been unpredictable/testing/predictable? Volatile, Staging, Repeatable? Volatile has been used for ephemeral packages. No need to cloud murky waters even further. -- Religion

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:57:34PM +, Camaleón wrote: - Pan (as newsreader for reading/post to mailing lists) - Mutt (as e-mail client for personal things) - Thunderbird (as e-mail client for work) - Liferea (as news feeder for reading web magazines and newspapers) (heck, I now realize

Re: Graphical app on startup

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 12:47:56PM +0200, Antonio Fernández Pérez wrote: Hi everybody, I would like to get that a graphical application developed in Java runs on startup of a Debian machine, if is possible without menu, without login panel and without system messages. Obviously without

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:28:33PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: funny. Now if it was a picture of two hippos in a river... that would make perfect sense. :-) What about the poor hippo who kept swimming in circles after they kicked him off the hippo campus? -- Religion is excellent stuff for

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 07:48:56PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: Apart from Mika... in which case he's best to not sign his posts and claim his account was hijacked by an idiot. Now thats uncalled for. My point was, that Mika's posts are difficult to read as it is (because he doesn't trim them)

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on this list.] On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:13:52PM -0400, PMA wrote: Does signing in-line specifically mean typing my name into a given email, or does it include also whatever signature text I've told my email program to append automatically? No. I don't know the RFC,

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please trim your posts on this mailing list] On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:14:34AM -0400, PMA wrote: I'm not sure utterly is quite the word. Nobody in signing thinks a signature is needed to identify him. You're not confusing the cryptographic signature with the normal email signature, are you?

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail. Nice try. :) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 But IT IS supported by Icedove/10.0.3, which you can and

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:49:09PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: So, since I sometimes need big, thigh high rubber boots to keep my feet and legs dry and clean, I should just wear my big rubber boots everywhere all time then, right? Then if anyone *cough* *cough* on your leg and tells you its

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:11:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:03:05PM +, Camaleón wrote: Bottom posting has been since long the preferred method for newsgroups and then mailing lists but not for forums

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:05:30AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail. Nice try. :) User-Agent: Mozilla

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:36:02AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote: Mika Suomalainen wrote: As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first started complaining about it didn't use

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to this message. It diplays like so: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote: I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their mail, that alone will set off alarm bells

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:59:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Though it's worth pointing out that the terms interleaved, inline, conversation, etc. are relatively new - reflecting, perhaps, a longer-standing practice. I can remember religious arguments about top vs. bottom posting back to

Rants and raving in Las Vegas. (was ... Re: [OT] Something about google search)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 05:22:02PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. LOL, anything like the gimp? (Pulp Fiction reference.) If you have problems with the script it's best to contact the maintainer (at the link

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: If GPG INLINE signature is so big problem to everyone on this list, lets make agreement. I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:07:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Configuring Icedove to use PGP/MIME is just two clicks. If you read all messages, you know that I will move to PGP/MIME when anyone on this list explains to me how do I manually verify signature with PGP/MIME. Verifying INLINE

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
[I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org] On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: (...) Interested parties ... please head to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom Yes it does! That is what bottom

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:55:11AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote: Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless numbers/letters, no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to

configure Icedove for GPG/MIME?

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:13:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 08.04.2012 18:12, Chris Bannister wrote: ... The mail client should do all that for you. Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ? ditto. I use the mutt email client and so don't know off hand but do any of these help

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:03:21AM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 08 April 2012 23:06:24 Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote: Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his messages straight to 'trash

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:09:36PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote: In linux.debian.user, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people

Re: configure Icedove for GPG/MIME?

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please trim your posts your posts on this mailing list] On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 11:38:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 09.04.2012 02:00, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:13:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Do you agree my point or do I just create filter to put

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: I also followed Linux Devices¹ (linux hardware related news) but has been recently adquired by a big magazine and the feeds are now gone :-( ¹http://www.linuxfordevices.com/ It seems to be back:

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 01:38:59PM -0700, Al Eridani wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: But you said above, and I quote: 'A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom and now you are saying in response

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote: «In the interleaved reply style (also called inline reply, point-by- point rebuttal, or, sometimes, bottom posting)...» ^^^ «In the bottom-posting style, the reply is appended to a full or

Re: [OT] Manually verifying PGP/MIME signature with GPG

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 03:53:19PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 02:43:51PM +, Camaleón wrote: If you don't know, please refrain from guessing! Refrain yourself from reading :-/ I'm not at significant risk of being (unintentionally) misled by you: newbies are.

Re: [OT] Manually verifying PGP/MIME signature with GPG

2012-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:28:28PM +, Camaleón wrote: (Disclaimer: newbies and soft-minded readers, please, stop reading here. The following content can damage your mind. You've been advised) Ha! I believe that is a dig at some constructive criticism. Ummm, let's see, No FUD in

Re: Wheezy: dragon player not working with phonon-backend-gstreamer?

2012-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 07:17:22PM -0700, T Elcor wrote: --- On Mon, 4/16/12, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: aptitude show dragonplayer   It works fine here (wheezy, amd64) with the same version of dragonplayer, using phonon-backend-vlc. Weird, I can't get it to

Re: Prompting for settings on first boot of a pre-installed image.

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 03:05:41PM +, Camaleón wrote: It would be nice having such a tool (oem-config) here. If the OP is interested maybe he can suggest it to be packaged (ITP): That would be Request For Package (RFP) -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. --

Re: gdm3 cancels/ignores Control/CapsLock swap

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 07:31:44PM +, Camaleón wrote: I remember I had to do something similar to what you are seeking for enabling the touchpad tap action at GDM3 but IIRC (I'm not in front of my netbook where I have Wheezy with GDM3 installed) I had to edit one of the Xorg

Re: Backup backup backup -- sound problem SOLVED using a backup

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:50:40AM +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote: I then did the usual sid upgrade commands: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade reboot After the reboot, I logged in and ran speaker-test: speaker-test -tsine -c2 Sound from both speakers! played some music

Re: grub2 loop back is not working

2012-04-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:24:57PM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: Dear list, I have upgraded my grub installed in my pendrive from 1.95 to 1.99 And now the .iso images are not booting any more. oOne such configuration is ` ` ` ` menuentry Ubuntu Live 11.10 64bit { Have you googled? Also,

Re: Strange error message when compiling svn package

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 02:48:43PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: When compiling Mplayer svn with `make', I got the following: The one that is missing has the definiton of HAVE_MMAP. I just install mplayer with apt-get. But you are compiling it. Why? If you want help

Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 06:13:15PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 03:21:11PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: That is just an example. You need to replace cdimage.raw with the image you wish to burn to CD. I have finally just now tried what you suggested

Re: CDROM burning problem - new approach

2010-12-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 06:26:23PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since I have two DVD/CD rewritable drive units in two different boxes, it occurred to me to swap the two and see what would happen. Here is the result: k...@sol:~/downloads$ wodim -v

Re: Debian 5 installation

2011-01-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 04:31:01PM +, Lisi wrote: +1 As always someone else can express my thoughts better than I can. Camaleón's English is so good that I often forget that she is not English. But come to think of it, perhaps cantankerous is even better in this case!

Re: Debian 5 installation

2011-01-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 11:47:23PM +0100, David Jardine wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 11:07:58AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/TRUCULANT Hmm! Over at Oxford we spell it truculent. ;) Arrgh!!, I should of noticed that when I cut/pasted

Re: PCI video card on Dell Dimension 2300

2011-01-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:37:07PM -0600, Jim Lebeau wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:02:28 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: Have you tried by passing agp=off as kernel parameter when booting? I did just now and it worked like a charm. Thank you very much, Jim -- Using Opera's

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 06:36:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: Yes, I care about it. I usually run Debian for headless systems that don't use X or a DE, but when I'm using a GUI on Debian, and need to use a Gnome program, there's much more sense to it requiring and installing the bare minimum

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:53:34PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet: ... libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off ( 5.0.51a). This has been fixed

Re: [OT] Build a single binary deb from source which produces many

2011-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:04:51AM +, Tixy wrote: As per the Debian FAQ [1] I am building packages from source using: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b However, some source packages produce multiple binary packages, is there a way of just rebuilding the specific binary package I'm

Re: help

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 02:59:08PM -0500, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: True... I think sudo is only installed if you disable root logins, otherwise you're just stuck with su. Sigh. Are you running Ubuntu? Ubuntu is NOT Debian. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people

Re: Any package for surveys?

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 07:43:09PM +, elbbit wrote: It is widely accepted that Hollywood is based on real life, as a starting reference point in any fiction, and then distorted to a point. Yeah right, but mainly by naive teenagers, who unfortunately are shaping the future. :( -- Religion

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