Re: how to bring up message and prevent user login when not connected to a particular VLAN? (was: how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?)

2023-10-27 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 19:22 +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 05:57:28PM +0200 schrieb hw: > > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 17:40 +0200, hw wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 16:53 +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > Am Mon, Oct 23, 2023

btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-09-30 Thread hw
Hi, with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous state if necessary. There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only subvolumes? How does a subvolume turn into a snapshot? (The root file

Re: Debian will not boot any more, wrong UUID

2023-09-30 Thread hw
On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 17:34 +0200, Hans wrote: > Dear folks, > > since days I am now fighting with a big and special problem I fell into. > > On my notebook I have 2 drives, one is a NVME drive, the other a normal > harddrive. > > The NVME has got Widows_11 and Debian_12 on it. > > But here

Re: swap-fle on arm64, need to disable, how?

2023-09-30 Thread hw
On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 18:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 9/30/23 13:28, Matthias Böttcher wrote: > > sudo dphys-swapfile swapoff > > sudo systemctl stop dphys-swapfile.service > > sudo systemctl disable dphys-swapfile.service > > > > . > However that did give me a clue about getting rid of

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-01 Thread hw
On Sun, 2023-10-01 at 10:51 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > hw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > > state if neces

Re: Debian will not boot any more, wrong UUID

2023-10-01 Thread hw
On Sun, 2023-10-01 at 00:01 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 9/30/23 19:59, hw wrote: > > > > I guess your notebook is now bricked. If it's still under warranty, > > have them fix it. > > > AIUI Windows 11 still works, so the notebook computer is not bricked;

Re: swap-fle on arm64, need to disable, how?

2023-10-01 Thread hw
On Sun, 2023-10-01 at 04:31 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 9/30/23 23:22, hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 18:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 9/30/23 13:28, Matthias Böttcher wrote: > > > > sudo dphys-swapfile swapoff > > > > sudo systemct

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-04 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-10-02 at 21:33 +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 7:20 AM hw wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Hello! I'm not going into much detail but maybe I can guide you to > better be able to find what you want. Hi, like I said, my idea was to take a s

how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?

2023-10-23 Thread hw
Hi, I have an entry in the fstab to mount an NFS share via IPv6. For unknown reasons, the entry is being ignored on boot, so after booting, I have to log in as root and do a 'mount -a' which mounts the share without problems. The entry in the fstab looks like this: [fd53::11]:/srv/example

Re: how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?

2023-10-23 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 10:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:17:11PM +0200, hw wrote: > > I have an entry in the fstab to mount an NFS share via IPv6. For > > unknown reasons, the entry is being ignored on boot, so after booting, > > I have to

Re: how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?

2023-10-23 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 16:53 +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:17:11PM +0200 schrieb hw: > > Hi, > > > > I have an entry in the fstab to mount an NFS share via IPv6. For > > unknown reasons, the entry is being ignored on boot, so after

how to bring up message and prevent user login when not connected to a particular VLAN? (was: how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?)

2023-10-23 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 17:40 +0200, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 16:53 +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:17:11PM +0200 schrieb hw: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have an entry in the fstab to mount an NFS share via IPv6. For >

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:58 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > > > so I wanted to

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 09:06 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:52:31 +0100 > hw wrote: > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forc

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu mod

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 23:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 04:39:02 (+0100), hw wrote: > > > > How can Debian be so old? > > Maturity takes a little ageing. Then Debian needs to figure out how to become sufficiently mature without becoming outdated.

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 22:44 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:39 PM hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 18:42 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > ... > > > Yeah, a newer kernel is probably worth a try. The 5.8 kernel may work. > > > T

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 11:55 +0100, hede wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:51:10 +0100 hw wrote: > > > And it works like 97% perfectly fine ... > > That's an oxymoron. > > > > > > Radeon RX 6000 series was released last year. I doubt it was possible to

Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
Hi, so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried forcing to load it when booting and it still didn't work. So I'm stuck with Fedora. What's wrong with Debian that we can't even get AMD cards to work.

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 18:42 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 5:30 PM hw wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:58 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 09:14 +0100, hede wrote: > On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > [...] > > > How did you install - what image, what

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 16:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 05/12/2022 16:14, hede wrote: > > On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > >

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forc

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-23 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 15:32 +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > the time window in which the backuped data > > > can become inconsistent on the application level. > > hw wrote: > > Or are you referring to the data being altered while a bac

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-18 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 16:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/15/22 07:15, hw wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozz

Re: blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-18 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 13:23 +, Curt wrote: > On 2022-11-15, hw wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > this module causes delays when booting and I'm finding this in dmesg: > > > > > > [   14.889003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 >

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-20 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 10:46 +0100, hede wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 00:51:20 +0100 hw wrote: > > > Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with Fedora either ...  I tried it > > with a > > live system if it would work and it didn't. > > The source of co

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-20 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 12:45 +0100, hw wrote: > [...] > I don't know, I'll try the Debian rescue and FreeBSD when the currently > running > backups are finished. I booted the Debian rescue and the LEDs on the network cards don't light up and the link remains down even when I replug t

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-20 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 17:35 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/19/22 15:51, hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 13:35 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 11/19/22 06:50, hw wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > &g

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-18 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 09:35 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:25 AM hw wrote: > > > > I have an X540-AT2 network card in my backup server and it worked when I was > > running Fedora on the server. > > > > I installed Debian on it and

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-20 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 10:25 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/20/22 08:25, hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 12:45 +0100, hw wrote: > > > [...] > > I am unable to determine if Intel has fixed any device driver bugs for > the X540-AT2 adapter since FreeBSD-12.3

Re: Asterisk 20 doesn't include chan_sip.so

2022-11-20 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 13:07 -0600, Mark Kamichoff wrote: > Hi - > > I'm not sure if this is a bug or intentional so I figured I'd ask here > first before submitting a bug report. > > The Asterisk package in testing (1:20.0.0~dfsg+~cs6.12.40431414-2) > doesn't appear to have chan_sip.so included

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 15:08 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 08:40:47PM +0100, hw wrote: > > Not really, it was just an SSD.  Two of them were used as cache and they > > failed > > was not surprising.  It's really unfortunate that SSDs fail particula

Re: blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:27 +, Tixy wrote: > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 11:10 +0100, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this module causes delays when booting and I'm finding this in dmesg: > > > > > > [   14.889003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 20:37 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > hw writes: > > > On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 22:11 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > > hw writes: > > > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 22:37 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > [...] > > How do you intend to copy f

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/18/22 05:23, hw wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 16:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 11/15/22 07:15, hw wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: > > > > >

networking is getting weirder (Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection)

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 16:00 +0100, hw wrote: > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 09:35 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:25 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > I have an X540-AT2 network card in my backup server and it worked when I > > > was > > >

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 21:27 -0500, Porter Smith wrote: > Userslly it is considered best practice to use nics from a known comparable > vendor for example Intel dual port nics can be found on sites like Amazon or > neerhg for a reasonable amount of $. What do you think I'm using?

btrfs: snapshots of directories?

2022-11-19 Thread hw
Hi, I want to make a snapshot of a directory which resides on a btrfs file system. So I was reading this guide: https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/how-create-and-manage-btrfs-snapshots-and-rollbacks-linux-part-2/ IIUC it requires that what you want to make a snapshot of must be a

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 13:35 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/19/22 06:50, hw wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > > ... I suggest trying a Category 6A factory patch cable at least 2 meters > > > long. > >

block devices vs. partitions (Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 10:59 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 10.11.2022 um 04:46 schrieb hw: > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 18:26 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Am Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 06:11:34PM +0100 schrieb hw: > > > [...] > [...] > > > > > Why would part

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 10:34 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 04:46:12AM +0100 schrieb hw: > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 18:26 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Am Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 06:11:34PM +0100 schrieb hw: > > > [...] > [...] > &

weird directory entry on ZFS volume (Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 07:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 05:54:00AM +0100, hw wrote: > > ls -la > > insgesamt 5 > > drwxr-xr-x  3 namefoo namefoo    3 16. Aug 22:36 . > > drwxr-xr-x 24 root    root    4096  1. Nov 2017  .. > > drwxr-xr-

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 12:08 +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > >   https://github.com/dm-vdo/kvdo/issues/18 > > hw wrote: > > So the VDO ppl say 4kB is a good block size > > They actually say that it's the only size which they support. >

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 11:11 +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > hw wrote: > > I still wonder how VDO actually works. > > There is a comparer/decider named UDS which holds an index of the valid > storage blocks, and a device driver named VDO which performes the >

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 09:46 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 09:39:45AM +0100, hw wrote: > > [...] > > > When you keep N full generations of backups it's different.  Using rsync, > > you'll > > only write the changes anyway, switching

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 10:26 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 08/11/2022 à 04:49, hw a écrit : > [...] > > When I want to have 2 (or more) generations of backups, do I actually want > > deduplication?  It leaves me with only one actual copy of the data which > > seem

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 17:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/7/22 23:13, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 21:46 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > Are you deduplicating?  > > > Yes. > > > > Apparently some people say bad things happ

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 10:04 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 08/11/2022 à 05:13, hw a écrit : > > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 13:57 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > I didn't (and don't) know much about deduplication (beyond what you might >

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 10:47 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 10.11.2022 um 06:38 schrieb David Christensen: > > What is your technique for defragmenting ZFS? > well, that was meant more or less a joke: there is none apart from > offloading all the data, destroying and rebuilding the pool, and filling > it

Re: weird directory entry on ZFS volume (Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 09:30 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 02:48:28PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 07:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > printf '%s\0' * | hexdump > > 000 00c2 6177 7468    

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 02:19 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/10/22 00:37, David Christensen wrote: > > On 11/9/22 00:24, hw wrote: > >  > On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 17:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > [...] > Which brings up another suggestion in two parts: &

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 21:36 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/9/22 00:24, hw wrote: >  > On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 17:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > >  > Hmm, when you can backup like 3.5TB with that, maybe I should put > FreeBSD on my >  > server and g

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 14:22 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > hw (12022-11-08): > > When I want to have 2 (or more) generations of backups, do I actually want > > deduplication?  It leaves me with only one actual copy of the data which > > seems > > to defeat the idea of

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 11:57 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 05:34:32PM +0100, hw wrote: > > And mind you, SSDs are *designed to fail* the sooner the more data you write > > to > > them.  They have their uses, maybe even for storage i

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 23:05 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 11:57 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 05:34:32PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > And mind you, SSDs are *designe

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 08:48 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > hw wrote: > > And I've been reading that when using ZFS, you shouldn't make volumes with > > more > > than 8 disks.  That's very inconvenient. > > > Where do you read these things? I read things like this: &q

Re: ZFS pool size (Re: else or Debian)

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 15:19 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 10.11.2022 um 14:28 schrieb DdB: > > Take some time to > > play with an installation (in a vm or just with a file based pool should > > be considered). > > an example to show, that is is possible to allocate hugefiles (bigger > than a single disk

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 22:37 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > hw writes: > > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 19:17 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > > hw writes: > > > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 14:29 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > > > > > Le 09/11/2022 à 12:41, hw a écrit

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-11 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 23:12 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 08:32:36PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > * RAID 5 and 6 restoration incurs additional stress on the other > >  disks in the RAID which makes it more likely that one of them > >  will fail. > > I believe that's mostly

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-11 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 08:01 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 07:15:07AM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 23:05 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > [...] > > > Why would anyone use SSDs for backups?  They're way too expensive for that. >

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 14:28 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 10.11.2022 um 13:03 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > If it turns out that '?' really is the filename, then it becomes a ZFS > > issue with which I can't help. > > just tested: i could create, rename, delete a file with that name on a > zfs filesystem

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 20:32 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Linux-Fan wrote: > > > [...] > * RAID 5 and 6 restoration incurs additional stress on the other >   disks in the RAID which makes it more likely that one of them >   will fail. The advantage of RAID 6 is that it can then recover >   from

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-11 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 21:14 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/10/22 07:44, hw wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 21:36 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 11/9/22 00:24, hw wrote: > > >   > On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 17:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: >

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-11 Thread hw
On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 13:40 +, Curt wrote: > On 2022-11-08, The Wanderer wrote: > > > > That more general sense of "backup" as in "something that you can fall > > back on" is no less legitimate than the technical sense given above, and > > it always rubs me the wrong way to see the

deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-06 Thread hw
Hi, I discovered that Redhat has VDO[1] to take care of deduplicating file systems. Aptitude didn't find any packages towards that. Is there no VDO in Debian, and what would be good to use for deduplication with Debian? Why isn't VDO in the stardard kernel? Or is it? I'm not looking for

Re: support for ancient peripherals

2022-11-06 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-06 at 17:44 +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: > On November 5, 2022 7:21 PM, I wrote: > > > > As you might understand, I'd like to replace my desktop, a 2006 Pentium 4 > > > with a 3-GHz processor.  It has always run Debian, and so will the new > > > one. > > > > > > My

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 09:14 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 3:04 AM hw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I discovered that Redhat has VDO[1] to take care of deduplicating file > > systems. > > Aptitude didn't find any packages towards that

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 13:57 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I didn't (and don't) know much about deduplication (beyond what you might > deduce from the name), so I google and found this article which was helpful to > me: > >    *

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 09:30 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > didier gaumet wrote: > > > > I may be mistaken, but I think there is a confusion here about a > > deduplication at filesystem level and at backup tool level. > > > > At (linux) filesystem level, I think in-line deduplication is only

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 17:01 +0100, hede wrote: > Am 07.11.2022 16:29, schrieb hede: > > Am 07.11.2022 02:57, schrieb hw: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Is there no VDO in Debian, and what would be good to use for > > > deduplication with > &

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 11:32 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 07/11/2022 à 10:30, hw a écrit : > > Hello, > > Disclaimer: I am really almqst ignorant about deduplication > > > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 09:14 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > > > On Mon,

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 16:29 +0100, hede wrote: > Am 07.11.2022 02:57, schrieb hw: > > Hi, > > > > Is there no VDO in Debian, and what would be good to use for > > deduplication with > > Debian?  Why isn't VDO in the stardard kernel? Or is it? > >

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-07 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 21:46 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/7/22 19:49, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 11:32 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > > > > At (linux) filesystem level, I think in-line deduplication is only > > > provided by ZFS (and perhaps, out-o

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 17:29 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 09.11.2022 um 12:41 schrieb hw: > > In any case, I'm currently tending to think that putting FreeBSD with ZFS on > > my > > server might be the best option.  But then, apparently I won't be able to > > configure the cont

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 15:07 +0100, hede wrote: > On 08.11.2022 05:31, hw wrote: > > That still requires you to have enough disk space for at least two full > > backups. > > Correct, if you do always full backups then the second run will consume > full backup space in the

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 07:19 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > hw wrote: > > > As you say, deduplication in backup systems is quite common, and works > > > pretty well. There's also an on-disk non-filesystem utility, rdfind, > > > which is packaged in Debian. It can dis

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 11:05 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/11/2022 à 10:27, hw a écrit : > [...] > > Yes, I've seen those.  I can only wonder how much performance impact VDO > > would > > have for backups.  And I wonder why it doesn't require as much memory

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 12:13 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 11:15:15AM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 09:46 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > But, as others have said, deduplication at the file system level (or > &

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 11:37 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > > I am no expert (in Linux, backporting or anything else) and cannot emit > a viable advice about what your backup plan should be. You are in better > position to evaluate your needs, your means and design a satisfying > backup plan

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 09:52 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 08.11.2022 um 05:31 schrieb hw: > > > That's only one point. > > What are the others? > > > > >  And it's not really some valid one, I think, as > > > you do typically not run into space problems wit

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 10:35 +0100, DdB wrote: > Am 09.11.2022 um 09:24 schrieb hw: > > > Learn more about ZFS and invest in hardware to get performance. > > Hardware like?  In theory, using SSDs for cache with ZFS should improve > > performance.  In practise, it only

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 10:04 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-11-08 at 09:36, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Curt (12022-11-08): > > > > > Redundancy sounds a lot like a back up. > > > > RAID also sounds a lot like a backup, and the R means redundant. > > > > Yet raid is not a backup. > >

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 14:44 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/11/2022 à 14:25, hw a écrit : > > > I don't think it was, see https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/zfs/ > > > > I does mention performance, but I remember other statements saying that was > > desi

else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 14:29 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/11/2022 à 12:41, hw a écrit : > [...] > > In any case, I'm currently tending to think that putting FreeBSD with ZFS on > > my > > server might be the best option.  But then, apparently I won't be able to >

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 19:17 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > hw writes: > > > On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 14:29 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > > > Le 09/11/2022 à 12:41, hw a écrit : > > [...] > > > > I am really not so well aware of ZFS state but my impression was t

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2022-11-09 at 18:26 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 06:11:34PM +0100 schrieb hw: > [...] > > FreeBSD has ZFS but can't even configure the disk controllers, so that won't > > work.  > > If I understand you right you mean RAID contro

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-11-13 at 19:49 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 13/11/2022 16:07, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the subject says it ... I have an interface that is being configured with > > IPv4 > > and IPv6 addresses via dhcp.  I need to assign an additional I

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 07:50 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 14/11/2022 12:07 am, hw wrote: > >  > Hi, > > the subject says it ... I have an interface that is being > configured > with IPv4 and IPv6 addresses via dhcp. I need to assign an >  > addi

Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-14 Thread hw
Hi, I have an X540-AT2 network card in my backup server and it worked when I was running Fedora on the server. I installed Debian on it and wanted to make backups with rsync, but the connection via this network card is now intermittent where it used to be stable with Fedora. The link always

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: > Please loot at this: > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-network-card-installed-but-only-at-100mbit-cant-change-or-improve-4175686736/ > > It seems that you need a 8x pcie slot to work fine Thanks,

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 19:23 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 14/11/22 19:14, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 07:50 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > I decided to use systemd-networkd service and removed most of the stuff > > > from /etc/networ

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 17:05 +, Curt wrote: > On 2022-11-11, wrote: > > > > I just contested that their failure rate is higher than that of HDDs. > > This is something which was true in early days, but nowadays it seems > > to be just a prejudice. > > If he prefers extrapolating his

Re: Sorry for the misattribution [was: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO] withDebian?)

2022-11-14 Thread hw
inted out to me, the OP wasn't hede. It was hw. Sorry for the > mis-attribution. > > Cheers What I was saying is something like that the number of failures out of some number of disks doesn't show the numbers of storage space failing (or however you want to call it). For example, when

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 14:48 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 07:15:07AM +0100, hw wrote: > > There was no misdiagnosis.  Have you ever had a failed SSD?  They usually > > just > > disappear. > > Actually, they don't; that's a somewhat unusual failu

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 21:26 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > hw writes: > > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 23:05 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 11:57 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > &

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-14 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 21:55 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > [...] > As with most filesystems, performance of ZFS drops dramatically as you > approach 100% usage.  So, you need a data destruction policy that keeps > storage usage and performance at acceptable levels. > > Lots of snapshots

blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-15 Thread hw
:16.0: reset: reached maximal consecutive resets: disabling the device [ 25.129797] mei_me :00:16.0: reset failed ret = -19 [ 25.130086] mei_me :00:16.0: link layer initialization failed. [ 25.130431] mei_me :00:16.0: init hw failure. [ 25.130745] mei_me :00:16.0: initialization

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: > > Please loot at this: > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-network-card-installed-but-only-at-100mbit-cant-change-or-imp

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: > > > Please loot at this: > > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-netw

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