Re: !!!!I am not ... System Lacks PPP ...

1998-01-04 Thread s. keeling
Incoming, from Bob Nielsen On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Greg Cox wrote: Ok, now it says System Lacks PPP Kernel Support. Either you: 1) Compiled your kernel without selecting ppp in the configuration process; or 2) Compiled with ppp but have not yet run /sbin/lilo to select that kernel

Unix qulifications...

1998-01-07 Thread s. keeling
Incoming, from Robert Moody This might be a little off topic [certification] qulifications, similar to Novells CNA, CNE and Microsofts MCSE. If there are could someone point me in the right direction. As much as I disdain certification, RedHat and Linux Journal were doing something about

PPP problem

1998-01-07 Thread s. keeling
Incoming, from OSWALD jean I have set the ppp debian package My modem is responding when I use minicom I have completed the /etc/ppp/options file properly. And when I run the command pppd the kernel answers Sorry - Lack of PPP in your kernel Or when I type dmesh | grep PPP I have no

Re: For Help!

2013-02-07 Thread s. keeling
Aijun Xuan aijun_x...@yahoo.ca: ---485831647-466411508-1354984718=:50704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, Debian: First of all, I would like appreciate what Debian had offered to us! I would thank GUN very much! I am a new user. I just set up Debian in my desktop

Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

2010-12-18 Thread s. keeling
s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: [I asked this in cmm, but see no help there yet. I'm trying to get this: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html working on Debian Lenny.] Camaleon, Darac, Osamu, Bob, thanks. All good suggestions, lots

Re: chkrootkit

2004-01-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from David Sanders: I just ran chkrootkit for the first time on a woody machine and got: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for ps command Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed Checking `sniffer'... PROMISC mode detected in one of these interfaces: eth0 sit0 I wish

Re: zero swap free

2004-01-23 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Alvin Oga: On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, David G. Schlecht wrote: I'm running Linux v2.2.16 from a Debian distro. The free command shows zero bytes of swap free out of 129 Mb (same size as physical mem). The culprit was qpopper when I received a 200Mb e-mail. I once read

Re: Formatting Floppy

2004-01-23 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Barry Skidmore: I have formatted a floppy disk with the following command: # fdformat /dev/fd0h1440 However, I am unable to mount it with the following command: # mount -f auto /dev/fd0 /mnt -f (according to the man page) fakes the operation; ie., it does everything BUT

Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-26 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Jan Minar: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:01:17PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: Here's another view of that data: What about this one?: | Country Aid(Billions) People(Millions) Dollars/Person | Australia 1 19.750.76 | Austria 0.5 8.1 61.73 | Belgium 1.1

Re: flash plugin

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman: On 2004-01-27, Pigeon penned: On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 03:59:22PM -0200, Daniel Ferreira wrote: Hi, =20 I'm trying to install the flash plugin (6.0.79.0) but it isn't working. When I try to acces some webpage which contains some flash, the browser is

Re: Email client programs

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Erich Waelde: I don't think everyone is fully appreciating the problem. That makes 2 of us ;) What comes to my mind: a. (has been mentioned) use fetchmail to download the messages. Example listing here: # fetchmail -d0 -a -f /etc/fetchmailrc 4 messages for

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ian Perry: Does anyone know what this is ? Or is it just elaborate spam ? Or am I now on yet ANOTHER spam list ? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, THINK! The From: says lists.debian.org. You're subscribed to some list at lists.debian.org, somebody sent crap to the list, and

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ian Perry: Firstly... my apologies to the list. Well, thank you for your abrupt reply and for being so damn rude. If you can't be civil, then please in future don't bother responding. A simple Yes, its just spam would have sufficed thank you. I'll agree, I was abrupt, but

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent - was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..the more Linux systems, or the more open source systems, out there the more likely that people will be interested in actually cracking Others have already debunked that theory. Does Windows get cracked more often because there's more Windows? No, it's

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent - was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Scarletdown: How's about something like this? Dear Linux user, Please find the NEW LINUX Virus program called HONOR. Since this Scenario 1: Hey Boss; the mailserver's hosed again. How did that happen? Someone checked their mail. Scenario 2: Hey Boss; the mailserver's

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Hugo Vanwoerkom: Does this mean that the volunteer list maintainer who has limited time to maintain the list is a Debian Developer, or can there be other volunteers to do this who DO have more time? I am under the impression that recently there is NO maintenance of this list,

Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman: Fine, drag my shame out into the light of day. :-) I'd assumed your volume was just turned way down. That's often the problem with sound mis-configuration. If you ever figure out what esd is there for, I'd like to know. 'Til now, it seems everyone

Re: G5 Xserver or Sun Blade 1500

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Angel: I am a newbee in the workstation /server world. I am going to buy hardware to do biological modelling involving data input/output, R programming (an statistical language) and a few graphics visualization (some GIS). You should look into some benchmarks analyzing the

Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Kirk Strauser: At 2004-01-29T17:40:49Z, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you ever figure out what esd is there for, I'd like to know. 'Til now, it seems everyone mentioning it is saying, Once I killed esd, $blah started working. Seriously? OK. ESD

Re: flash plugin

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from David: On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:44:37AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: Shockwave Flash 5.0 r47 What X server do you use? I currently have XFree 4.3 (self-compiled) (0) root /root/dox_ COLUMNS=110 dpkg -l | grep xfree ii xfree86-common4.2.1-3.woody3X Window

Virus bot bounces (Was: ALCATEL POLICY : your message has been refused)

2004-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: e-mail Manager Notification ** As a security precaution this mail was blocked and discarded since it Grrr. Can we pass a law that says all these virus checker programs have to insert an X-Virus-Bot: header into their

Re: Mobo with fan controls

2004-01-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Hugo Vanwoerkom: I am looking for a mobo that has controls on for all its fans so they can be turned off or down when not needed, like the laptops do. I have never understood you guys who want to do this with finesse. Just brute force it! Get a desk that has a big enough

Re: Mobo with fan controls

2004-01-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman: On 2004-01-30, s. keeling penned: Incoming from Hugo Vanwoerkom: I am looking for a mobo that has controls on for all its fans so they can be turned off or down when not needed, like the laptops do. I have never understood you guys who want to do

Re: Aptitude update to testing ok BUT

2004-01-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ray Curd: I have just used Aptitude to upgrade to testing from Woody, everything went smoothly- no major error messages BUT my default window manager has been changed to Gnome. Iwas asked in the set-up script my preferred window manager and I chose KDM. KDE has been upgraded

Re: /etc/init.d/ - add/remove services

2004-01-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Adam Aube: On Friday 30 January 2004 03:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the preferred way to add or remove a /etc/init.d/ service from certain runlevels? For adding, use the update-rc.d script. To remove, just manually delete the symlink. You can use update-rc.d to

Re: Isolationism is history.

2004-01-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Colin Watson: But be very careful about doing that; you may well end up tainted if you sign source licence agreements, and writing free software thereafter Besides, considering their record so far, what (of any value) could possibly be learned from them? From what I've seen

Re: Exim vs Procmail (was: Sendmail vs Exim vs Others)

2004-01-31 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Pigeon: exim -bm. Useful if you want to avoid having to learn Sanskrit^Wprocmail. For example, the following is what I use to strip the advertising from Yahoo Groups mailing list traffic: Oh yes, that's far simpler than learning Sanskrit^Wprocmail. Yesiree, Bob! You

Re: Debain on the rise ! - However ....

2004-02-03 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I happen to agree with Monique on this one, if something is off topic, or does not get your attention skip it. When you read a magazine do you read every article, front to back, use the same method here. A magazine tends to stay relatively the same size from

Re: mymail worm

2004-02-04 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Antony Gelberg: Anyone have a similar rule to nuke this new mymail worm? I have some Last I heard, this one is morphing itself continuously, meaning signatures aren't going to work. I found (something like) this in comp.mail.misc a few days ago. There are a space and a TAB

Re: mymail worm

2004-02-08 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mike Fedyk: On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 10:07:22AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: # Put A TAB Character Between [] Brackets Below. * 1^0 ^[ ]charset=.?Windows-1252.? Can't you use \t or $'\t' there instead of using an actual tab character? Son of a gun. Apparently yes

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-08 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Thorsten Haude: * Paul E Condon wrote (2004-02-08 05:15): Start with Kernighan and Pike, The UNIX Programming Environment. Please don't. This might have been a good book twenty years ago but now it's obsolete. I imagine you have the same opinion of Shakespeare? Cicero,

Re: laptop HW detection Q (isa/video/cpu)

2004-02-08 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Micha Feigin: I ran several hardware detection programs on my laptop and I seen to have some indiscrepancies that I was wondering about and hoping some can give me more info about or point me at a better direction. (the tools where lspci -vv, lshw and dmi-decode) Others have

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Morgan: You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft software sucks, bigtime! Anyone looking at the amount

Re: kppp configure question

2004-02-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mike Adolf: I would like to use kppp (in KDE) to establish an internet connection. When I execute it, as root, I get the following: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server kppp: cannot connect to X server :0.0 What is

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-10 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Sam Halliday: i cant believe i just replied to an anti-microsoft troll on debian-user Rest assured, you didn't. On my more reasonable days, I can agree that there may actually be a small number of situations where someone will have no alternative to using crapware. Poor

Re: Convert Red Hat 7.2 to Debian 3.0

2004-02-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Herman: On 2004-02-11, System Administrator penned: I am about to cobvert a system from Red Hat to Debian. Idealy I would do a fresh install from scratch, but am trying to avoid this. While But I'd strongly suggest biting the bullet and installing debian from

Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-12 Thread s. keeling
: - snip - #!/usr/bin/perl -w # # ~/devl/perl/things.pl replaces ~/sh/things.sh; datestamps # and separates entries. # # 13Apr2002 s. keeling 0001 replace things.sh # use strict; my ( $outfile, $now ); chomp( $now = qx(date

Re: Newbie

2004-02-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from vin vin: Greetings I've set some time to learn about Linux this semester though I have no experience at this point. I've used Unix (platform for C COBOL) in the past and now I'm taking an OpSys class. I was wondering if I could get some advice or perhaps in some way help

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Martin Dickopp: Tim Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other day, I did something really stupid. I started a download with BitTorrent, and, half-way through, deleted the file it was downloading. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo This is a test. t.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ tail -f

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Richard Hoskins: So we're looking at IBM pitching Linux desktops at organizations using Windows servers. Who would have thunk? That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for the desktop

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Johnson: On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for ..^ the desktop market

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steven Leach: I would have to wonder what possible benefit would be derived from this. True, MS Word/Office is one of the biggest things which keeps desktop users dependent on Windows (or Mac too of course). But running Office, already a program with less than stellar

Re: /proc hidden features documentation [Was: Quasi-(un)deletion question]

2004-02-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Jan Minar: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:25:08AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote: Yes, /proc is quite different from other filesystems in many ways. :) Is it documented? I wasn't able to find anything. Particularly, Anything? You didn't install man pages? man proc works for me

Re: Debian on a SUSE computer

2004-02-17 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Johnson: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:17:23PM -0500, . wrote: What is the likelyhood that the hardware in these computers is 100% compatible with Debian and all it takes is the regular Debian installation procedure ? 100%. Linux is Linux when it comes to hardware

Re: Bonjour - WAY OT.

2004-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Marty Landman: At 04:39 AM 2/18/2004, Pierre-François Gandolfo wrote: Le 17 février à 12:06, Paul Johnson a écrit: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:03:02PM -, Jean Baptiste Sarr wrote: Au moment de convertir une th?se, je re?ois le message suivant : .Contenu de :

Re: Two problems with xkb

2004-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from martin f krafft: I am trying to customise my keyboard experience. Precisely, I'd like to overlay my beloved us/ascii layout with a second group featuring the international characters I always need. Perhaps I don't understand the problem, but try keycode 113 = Multi_key in your

Re: Printer installing help

2004-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Patricia Leach: Trying to install canon BJC-620 printer. Good for you. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: AW: Bonjour - WAY WAY OT!

2004-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steve Lamb: Marty Landman wrote: At 01:01 PM 2/18/2004, Paul Johnson wrote: you just can't make it without English in the US. I don't know about that Paul; growing up in Brooklyn seemed to me like everyone did quite nicely thank you. I was unaware that Brooklyn was

Re: Installation of SEPLib on Debian Woody

2004-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Brad Camroux: On February 18, 2004 10:01 pm, Jacob Schroeder wrote: ...but I can't seem to use RPMs on my system.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. What did you use to try and install the rpm? Did you convert it to a .deb using alien first? Hmm... I don't know

Re: AW: Bonjour - WAY WAY OT!

2004-02-19 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Marty Landman: At 02:37 PM 2/18/2004, s. keeling wrote: Of course, there's a lot of people from where I'm from who would dispute the suggestion that English is spoken anywhere in the US. Heh. Just shows how jealous they all are of what we've managed to do with it since

Re: installing debian with floppies on laptop

2004-02-20 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from tripolar: I need to install debian on a laptop ( no OS installed ) with a bad dvd-rom drive. I would like to get network up to do network install. Laptop is Toshiba satellite 1805-s203. Etherfast 10/100 PC Card Linksys ( PCMPC100 ) That should be supported out of the box by the

Re: installing debian with floppies on laptop

2004-02-20 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from tripolar: s. keeling wrote: Note, you have to say yes to cardbus even if your cards/slots aren't cardbus. This is detailed in /usr/src/linux/documentation... One question- at what point will it ask me to say Yes to cardbus? That's in the kernel re-compile stage in make

Re: debian-genitalia? debian-excrement? (was: shiny)

2004-02-20 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Vineet Kumar: I'm ashamed to admit I didn't killfile this thread 3 days ago, but I That's one solution. I'd take that advice if I were you. think I speak for just about all but 2 subscribers of this list when I say: take this bullshit elsewhere. I say, NOBODY'S FORCING YOU TO

Re: Modem IRQ not assigned

2004-02-21 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear debian, Ihave reloaded W98 to find the modem appearing in device manager but it is not there when I look at properties. Previously it was one of four items with IRQ 11. Hence it doesnt respond. That could be Plug Play in your BIOS. I always turn

Re: DVD copying and CSS

2004-02-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from John Hasler: Vineet Kumar writes: This way if anything gets scratched, stolen, melted on the dash, etc., I'm only out the cost of CDRs. But the publisher has lost the sale of a replacement CD, which is why they don't want you to do it (of course, if the CD only cost a buck

Re: web browser choices

2007-03-23 Thread s. keeling
Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: framebuffer is not a device in that respect. /dev/fb* is reffering to a floppy drive. You likely mean /dev/fd* is referring to floppy drives, which is just confusing the issue. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)

Re: I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian , Ian Murdock

2007-03-27 Thread s. keeling
Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Like I said, it's the when it's ready attitude taken to the extreme -- to the exclusion of providing users any kind of predictablility or expectations of timeliness -- that I don't like. Go elsewhere, please! Debian's job, from day one, has been to produce

Re: Accessing berkely database files

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there any program available for linux (preferably packaged for debian), that would allow me to examine the contents of berkely database files? (I think that they are version 3) Version 3?!? Perhaps I'm comparing apples and oranges (BDB vs. Btree?)[0], but

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The order in question is this: http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000ClientType=Printable Changing subject... Text of Bush's Order on Treatment of Detainees [schnip]

Re: add memory and spam question

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED]: for the spam to inside, what is the command to easy to identify the huge mail to send to the server Just as an example, procmail: :0 B * 102400 { LOG=Too big --- :0: /dev/null } Which says, if the body of the message is greater than

Re: slrn crash -- froze everything

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A couple weeks ago I had a problem while using slrn, with an error wriitng to file after I tried to exit. The input/output error messages I got suggested a hard drive problem, but that came to nothing. The whole thing was discussed in another thread here.

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John C wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the brunt that will come. The brunt of questions that will FINALLY be there. All of this crap is filler for the

Re: Rejected posting [Was: Re: Halt [Display Keyboard and mouse] when gdm shows its login screen]

2007-04-03 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shareef.Bassiouny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Moderator i dont uderstand this refusal ; kindly clarify I'm not the moderator, but I can try to clarify. It looks to me like you were trying to post to debian-user through google groups. AFAIK this

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread s. keeling
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Pobega wrote: It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list tell anyone to RTFM and STFW. I see that

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 01:45:13PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] (out of this list) I said this once before and got shot down, but here

Re: [debian-user] The List Standard

2007-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Andrew M.A. Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [much generally good info snipped] that virtually everybody who posts to the list is also subscribed to the list, so that you don't normally need to cc. them. Not true. Anyone or anything can post to the list. Agreed that additional Cc:'s (unless

Re: [debian-user] The List Standard

2007-04-11 Thread s. keeling
Ted Hilts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris Lale wrote: David E. Fox wrote: [...] Normally, one should just reply-to list, and it's considered bad form to mail the poster directly, unless asked to do so. In Thunderbird (Icedove), either click on Reply All, change

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread s. keeling
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Joe Hart writes: if you're running Etch you won't be

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-14 Thread s. keeling
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:08:06 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really should be specific to which version you're running. If you're running Sarge, you won't be getting many updates, if you're A related observation/question. I have been

Re: Debian/Etch/4.0 upgrade experience

2007-04-17 Thread s. keeling
James D. Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Essentially flawless ! I have upgraded two i386 and one amd64 machines from sarge to etch. Except for configuration files that I changed myself, it was clean and straight forward. I am VERY impressed. =20 -- James D. Freels, Ph.D. [EMAIL

Re: [OT] Re: Debian User List

2007-05-02 Thread s. keeling
Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Pobega wrote: Oh, and the point of this mail is that I too fall into the Young group, seeing as I'm seventeen. While most of my friends have spent half the day boasting about how AOL has a new layout, I've been trying to get a LUG set up in my

Re: [OT] Re: Debian User List

2007-05-02 Thread s. keeling
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 06:26:46AM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But then again, each generation has it's faults. Just look at the 60s! Hey, watch it, bub; the '60s were the ideal time what with all the

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding. man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution. (NO!! cron is *not* an adequate

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding. man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-12 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote: machines though. OSF/1 wasn't originally available for non-Ultra processors. Ultras? UltraSPARCS? I may have used the wrong name. What's the ca. '96 DEC processor line for workstations/small servers? -- Any

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-13 Thread s. keeling
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote: machines though. OSF/1 wasn't originally available for non-Ultra s/Ultra/Alpha/ -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca

Re: Typing an '@' symbol on an Apple keyboard

2007-05-16 Thread s. keeling
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 14:48:53 +0200, Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: thanks for your replies so far. It looks like I'll have (i) to look harder to find the correct key combination or (ii) tweak the configuration my keyboard setup. I prefer (ii)

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-17 Thread s. keeling
cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:57PM EDT, Deboo ^ wrote: I installed a minimal X sysetm with fluxbox and xterm and two other terminal emulators: eterm and mrxvt. But all three of them give very small fonts. WIth xterm, I was able to get a reasonable font with

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-18 Thread s. keeling
cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:06:41PM EDT, s. keeling wrote: BTW, on many systems these days, .Xdefaults is deprecated and .Xresources is used instead. ymmv. Interesting. .Xdefaults still works on debian etch. Did you deprecate it in what is it .. lenny

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/18/07, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mkdir ~/.Xresource ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm ~/.Xresources/XTerm-system Also, how do you specify xterm options like bg and fg in these files or the .Xdefaults file? I set it in the

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:07:22AM EDT, s. keeling wrote: cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:06:41PM EDT, s. keeling wrote: BTW, on many systems these days, .Xdefaults is deprecated and .Xresources is used instead. ymmv

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 19 May 2007 08:02, M. Fioretti wrote: This is why I'm posting also this reply to the moderators. I really hope they put a stop to this, this time. Excellent reasoning and presentation Marco. I hope the listmasters will finally fix this

Re: OT: Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Personally, I had already decided that, from now on, any off topic rambling by the people we have already mentioned will cause an immediate reply, both on the list and to the moderators, requesting, with links to this thread, that they are banned from

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Roberto C Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 10:15:01PM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 14:34:50 PM -0400, Greg Folkert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: That changes many thing. First off BANNING is not the answer. It will be seen a a bad thing by the

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Roberto C Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:29:48PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Deboo ^ wrote: I already made an alias to less to use less -q. That works if I use less manually but just not in man. I'll try what Greg said above. If you set PAGER=3D'less -q'

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-20 Thread s. keeling
Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/19/07, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go read /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm. Here's some of the stuff in my .Xresources which over-ride the system defn's: XTerm*geometry:90x43 [snip] Trying this, I lost the fluxbox menu

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-21 Thread s. keeling
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see your point about offensiveness, but I'll point out that the OT thread I started (Good, evil, etc) was a response to a sig that I felt attacked religion unfairly. Many people use quite provocative sigs, ridiculing (often wittily) political or religious

Re: [OT] Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-21 Thread s. keeling
Roberto C Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 04:31:12PM +, s. keeling wrote: Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thread I started (Good, evil, etc) was a response to a sig that I felt attacked religion unfairly. Many people use quite provocative sigs, ridiculing

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-21 Thread s. keeling
Gnu_Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please avoid this kind of technical suggestions in this thread: * it is still the same unacceptable since you can buy ear plugs, I can yell whenever I want attitude. See my previous messages I think it's a valid solution

Re: Is Etch Stable is really stable?

2007-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, can someone tell me if I have to delete the /var/cache/apt/archives to do a clean install or is it that it will be cleaned too when issuing the apt-get install clean ? (0) heretic.spots.ab.ca /home/keeling_ aptitude search clean p bibclean

Re: xterm fonts - problem solved and able to replicate

2007-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/24/07, Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying some bigger fonts to use with xterm but adding them and then starting xterm would make xterm size very large, more than the screen size. So I edited

Re: FireFox slowness

2007-06-02 Thread s. keeling
BartlebyScrivener [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 31, 4:00 pm, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else seeing absurdly slow responsiveness from iceweasel, Not that slow. But it's definitely much slower than running Firefox on XP. It's a shame. On the other hand it might inspire me to

Re: (solved) Re: does etch have package that allow user bypass Internet censorship

2007-06-03 Thread s. keeling
Serena Cantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 06/03/2007 12:37 AM, Serena Cantor wrote: I'm in mainland China. The government block some Web sites and some Web pages. I believe the software is called either Tor or Torfree. Great! It's tor. It works! Now I can see all pages blocked by

Re: Files used when a terminal window opens

2007-06-03 Thread s. keeling
Charles Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After logging in on a gnome window, I often go to Accessories and root terminal. I have several shell variable setting and some other small tasks at the beginning. When I first set the system up, I had a file that did these things for me. However, I

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread s. keeling
Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:24:32PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Things could be easy for English speaking people, since UTF-8 is fully compatible with ASCII. However, for people that do not speak English,

Re: problem

2007-06-06 Thread s. keeling
walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 10:06 +0200, walter wrote: I've lost a lot of time and plastic trying to download your dvds, cds. All corrupt. It seems you or somebody else don't want people know about What were the problems you experienced ? I can download ubuntu

Re: Mutt now shows Autoview using /usr/bin/elinks

2007-06-12 Thread s. keeling
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:15:02PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Recent Lenny update: Mutt now shows Autoview using /usr/bin/elinks The default browser is set to lynx! I assume an update of shared-mime-info(?) has changed this but It was previously set

Re: crob chgrp

2007-06-12 Thread s. keeling
Chris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am trying to run the [following] in woody using cron so my cron 2,12,22,32,42,52 * * * * /path to macro I assume this is in /etc/crontab, yes? You need to tell cron who to run it by: 2,12,22,32,42,52 * * * * root /path to macro #!/bin/sh

Re: a2ps and bitstream vera fonts

2007-06-12 Thread s. keeling
Santanu Chatterjee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you tell me how do I use Bitstream-Vera-Sans-Mono font with a2ps, enscript, etc.? Not exactly, but I use the -f switch on enscript passing it Courier7. Try playing with xlsfonts | grep -i bitstream or something. -- Any technology distinguishable

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