aside from systemd adjusting hwclock on the
shutdown, there is also a call to hwclock.sh in
/etc/rcS.d/S07hwclock.sh which runs on the start
up, so i'm hoping to find out this afternoon if
i've finally solved this. hope so. :)
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messages.
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-sync is disabled.
help? any futher things to try that come to mind?
thanks!
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Michael Biebl wrote:
schrieb songbird:
will it stay masked when updates to systemd come through?
The mask is created in /etc/systemd/system, which is admin territory,
i.e. not overwritten by the package.
So your answer is yes.
thanks again!
i really appreciate having you and other
Michael Biebl wrote:
schrieb songbird:
help? any futher things to try that come to mind?
That's most likely hwclock-save.service, which is run on shutdown.
This was added due to [1]. Some users where quite adamant, that they
needed it.
You can mask the unit via
$ systemctl mask
released yet) and Sid is unstable.
if you have your sources.list set to testing
and have updated your system you may have already
pulled in stuff that may never see a stable
release. i've already had updates to a few dozen
packages (via testing or testing security updates).
songbird
for it.
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Joris Schoolmeesters wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> With Debian 7.9 out in the wild, apt-get will upgrade you
> automatically to 7.9 on Debian 7.
>
> Is there a way to upgrade from 7.7 to 7.8 ?
the easiest way is probably by looking up the
release date and then using:
snapshot.debian.org
songbird
Joris Schoolmeesters wrote:
> Thanks for all replies.
>
>
> Didn't know about about snapshot.debian.org
> Looks like the best way to go in this situation.
much easier than another method (get specific package
version numbers and force upgrades to those versions).
songbird
a warning, but as of yet i don't know how
to fix it or even what applet it is referring to:
org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory[1239]: ** (wnck-applet:1275): WARNING
**: Failed to get pixmap 14682869,1667,
google has not provided any more details either.
songbird
alone,
but will keep this in mind if i see the error message
again.
cheers, thanks,
songbird
futzed around with that and seems to be working.
not sure i like having to add yet more stuff, but
if that is how it needs to be then...
songbird
, (running MATE
desktop) other than a few bits which seem to be
required...
any ideas? i've tried other versions going back but
it seems to not make any difference now.
songbird
Sven Arvidsson wrote:
...
> Most likely a problem with Gstreamer, is=C2=A0gstreamer1.0-alsa installed?
pulseaudio was too noisy, took it out again, left
gstreamer alone. things now work like before with
alsa.
thanks again, :)
songbird
g, along
with desktop or window manager.
under MATE there is an entry in the menu which
allows for shut down.
or as root user i can use the command
# shutdown -h now
which also works...
songbird
so to boot a different selection you edit /etc/default/grub
the line that mentions GRUB_DEFAULT and change the 0 to some
other number.
in my case i have four entries. so to test another i
picked the entry 2 (which is really 3 on the list on the
screen). then did update-grub (as root). worked.
songbird
at this E-list contains an expert of the quality of
> Mr Mieta.
great news! glad you got it working. :)
songbird
wn -h now
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
ah, haha, thanks, typoed dangit!
yes that should have been -h not -f...
songbird
machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost. ]
>
> Thanks in advance for all help and suggestions!
yes, it is in grub you can change which is booted first.
the file:
/etc/default/grub
(make backup copy if you make changes you are unsure about)
songbird
n holding a package so it doesn't get upgraded
automatically.
songbird
used a "cp -r" to do it too...
fwiw, :)
songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 02/12/2017 09:26 AM, songbird wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> songbird wrote:
>> ...
>>>> years ago i copied from dvds to a subdirectory
>>>> on an external USB drive. it worked ok, but i did
>>>> have
Richard Owlett wrote:
>songbird wrote:
...
>> years ago i copied from dvds to a subdirectory
>> on an external USB drive. it worked ok, but i did
>> have to tell in the apt sources list that i was
>> using a file and not a dvd.
>>
>> i am pr
Richard Owlett wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>>
>> click on the panel
>>
>> then add to panel.
>>
>> both the main menu and the menu bar are
>> there in the list.
>
> Yes, but with a "gotcha" ;)
> The description of &qu
ly if it does save you
tons of needless bit moving. :)
songbird
ot;, line 1778, in
initialize
gi.require_version('Vte', '2.91')
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118, in
require_version
raise ValueError('Namespace %s not available' % namespace)
ValueError: Namespace Vte not available
songbird
Sven Joachim wrote:
> songbird wrote:
>
>> anyone else seeing this?
>>
>> $ reportbug
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2234, in
>> main()
>> File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 108
to the original configuration. How?
>
> The "Help" system is very un-helpful. All I could find was a description of
> the
> original configuration with nothing about restoring it if changed.
click on the panel
then add to panel.
both the main menu and the menu bar are
there in the list.
songbird
find the website on-line
and read the help via HTML browser which usually will
honor a minimum font spec.
songbird
e been running testing/sid though too which
is up to version 1.16 of MATE. i think 1.14 or
1.12 is more stable. looks like from recent
discussion they are trying to get 1.18 into the
next stable release, but i'm not sure they'll be
able to make it under the freeze deadlines.
songbird
y to your list in
/etc/apt/sources.list
and then do an update.
then use:
apt-get source pkg
apt-get build-dep pkg
and explore/play to your heart's content :)
songbird
; bash: test.sh: command not found
>
> I'm using Squeeze with Gnome2 as DE.
> What's wrong?
> TIA
also remember that test itself is a builtin
or binary on some systems.
you may be running on thing and thinking
you are running another.
in this particular case with the .sh
extension you are safe, but forget that
once and ...
songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 02:42:20PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>> when you run:
>>
>> $ apt-get upgrade
>>
>> it will not add any new programs, but when you run:
>>
>> $ apt-get dist-upgrade
>>
>> it will tell y
e systems
(ext2 to ext4 as just one example).
songbird
ht? While pkgX will run the /usr/bin/pkgX
see above...
songbird
tition 3 ?
> Can they remove partition 3 and add on new one ?
>
> ----
>
> Have a nice day :)
thanks! u2.
songbird
rsions are showing up.
then if they are still there you can try
dpkg -i on the latest versions
songbird
some
of the basics you'll need.
> * Does anybody know if Squirrelmail is working properly with PHP7 now? (I k=
> now that this is off-topic.)
no idea on these. someone else will have to address...
>
> Grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.
y.w.
songbird
it is very useful to think about for me too
at the moment i'm considering how to set up one
or two USB sticks and getting them ready for
the stretch installer. i will likely need to
use them for a new machine in the next few weeks.
songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> songbird wrote:
>> always give an option to do a dry run without any actual changes
>> being made
>
> But what difference would that make ?
just me and a preference to err on the side
of caution when dealing with devices that might
alt
ded. then
i deleted the tags. there is no way to interrupt
this. oops. i had to go find the backup files
and restore the database which held the tags.
luckily i did make a backup of my work and that
was all it was to restore the tags instead of
having to actually go dig up the 9000 picture
files again.
songbird
surprised if you could not find
them available on-line. have you actually looked?
songbird
use it any longer).
songbird
deloptes wrote:
...
> very good advise songbird
>
> we would usually dd the iso and mount via loop, then use either http or file
> share to provide the installer to the client
plenty of ways to get this done.
i forgot to mention that i've had media go bad
(both
some minimal install to get the base
system going, then do a partition copy of that
and you'll not have to redo the previous steps
again to recover if you want to try something
else.
songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs.
>>> Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh
>>> install to a different partition.
>>
PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-utils 10.0-1
i386 Command line tools for the PulseAudio
sound server
=
hth,
songbird
directories once every few months just in case
something happens.
when i'm doing a new system from scratch i use
a partition copy utility after each major step
so i don't have to go back and reinstall from
media and/or network if something doesn't quite
go as i'd like.
songbird
> number from an interrupt endpoint so I was just trying chase down
> whether it was an easy-to-fix problem.
remember that installing a package for use
is different than installing a package for
building.
did you try the same command for libdevice-usb-perl?
aka:
apt-get build-dep libdevice-usb-perl
?
songbird
rything else just fine. No
> graphic display, that's all.
did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
songbird
an.org/search?searchon=contents=usb.h
> shows many results, even for the AMD arch needed.
>
> Is one of these the included file? Or is it somewhere else?
>
> Thank you.
is it missing a build dependency or something?
what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do?
songbird
Mark Copper wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:36 PM, songbird <songb...@anthive.com> wrote:
>> Mark Copper wrote:
>>>>
>>>> is it missing a build dependency or something?
>>>>
>>>> what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 03 April 2017 13:15:04 songbird wrote:
>
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > Greetings;
>> >
>> > My last question seemed to have been routed to /dev/null.
>>
>> i went and found it. probably wrong mailing list to
>
Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> (It would be embarrassing if a different Thomas was meant.)
context is good... i dislike posting
last names to usenet/mailing lists.
> songbird wrote:
>> your recent efforts helped me get an
>> install going via USB stick on this ancient
&
for those who
care) took care of it and i was off and
running...
it actually works. :)
songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
>songbird wrote:
...
>> use find. sometimes trying to make a square peg
>> fit in a round hole isn't worth it.
>>
>
> The annoying facet of the problem is that
> "Applications->Accessories->Search for files" retrieves
e glade-gtk2 version
> 3.8.0 kit of gfx widgits might be updated to gtk3 compatibility?
as with most other projects of this kind, developers
tend to wander off to what is hot/current and can
potentially make them some $...
got $ ?
songbird
gt; [11] [1] /home/richard/Downloads/twentyfifteen.1.7.zip
>>
>>
>> Notes:
>> 1 a filename w extension
>> 2 folder
>> 3 link to folder
>> 4 a filename w/o extension
>>
>> NOTE BENE
>> Item 4 is a folder but resembels a filename w extension
>
> Any suggestions?
use find. sometimes trying to make a square peg
fit in a round hole isn't worth it.
songbird
use UUIDs but make partition
labels instead and use those).
- error in preseed file which put something in
a different location than intended.
- grub may not have done what you expected.
songbird
ot;
sleep 1
set linux_gfx_mode=
export linux_gfx_mode
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
insmod usb
insmod fat
set root='hd0,msdos1'
echo'Loading Linux 4.9.0-1-686-pae ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-1-686-pae ro root=LABEL=ROOT_007
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-1-686-pae
}
==
and then run update-grub to get your new menu.
songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>songbird wrote:
...
>> ok, looks like the two versions are the same in
>> the first sector (netinst for i386 and amd64) so
>> the fix should work...
>
> The fix should apply to all Debian i386 and amd64 ISOs which were made
> with is
g data.
>>> There are multiple tools for manipulating and printing CSV data.
>>>
>>> [As a side note - all folders report "size" of 4.1 kB.
>>> Likely should be reported as blank or "N/A"]
>>>
>>
>> Why not make the b
ersion?
that's really unfortunate.
songbird
Brian wrote:
...
> And, more to the point, is there booting from the card without any error
> messages?
...
and as additional info you can adjust some things
in grub via editing /etc/default/grub (and running
update-grub) if you don't like how the menu is being
generated.
songbird
rch turned up very low level details but not the need overview.
> Suggestions?
does:
https://manpages.debian.org
help?
songbird
rch turned up very low level details but not the need overview.
> Suggestions?
talk to the debian doc team or the man package
maintainer(s)/team...
songbird
the upgrade or
in the reboot and my exim4 has been chugging
along all day.
songbird
when stretch is released?
if you install it as stretch (by name) then it
will not need anything at all to remain as is
until you choose to make it something else.
songbird
m menu entry and
chain loading.
as usual, i still have much to learn...
songbird
Brian wrote:
> songbird wrote:
>
>> what i would do for grins is unplug the
>> devices other than the SSD and the installation
>> media and then do a base system (simple install
>> - not expert) and see what the installer does
>> detect and writes in the
ing tab key once or twice may give full
list of commands available. i don't want to reboot right
now to find out...
songbird
ing me. I gives me the
> motivation to continue spending the time to get Jessie up on the new Udoo
> X86 platform.
the keyword being "new" there makes me go "hmm..." :)
[i have no idea what a Udoo is...]
songbird
> strongest available terms through proper channels.
>
> Please help.
i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch
and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at
all and it just works.
what does mutt -v | grep SPELL say?
and/or:
if you remove your set line does it work?
or if you use /usr/bin/ispell?
songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, songbird wrote:
>
>> i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch
>> and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at
>> all and it just works.
>
> I tried the "no setting in .muttrc" and that did the tr
when my computer is turned off the clock
runs slow.
when my computer is turned on the clock
runs fast.
so any single adjustment in /etc/adjtime
doesn't work (as my number of hours off or
on the computer each day may change).
*chuckles*
songbird
've not seen any problems (tested both newegg
and some news sites).
songbird
my older machine with systemd.
i'm running up to date debian testing. i haven't had any
major issues other than when systemd was first installed.
songbird
few months there
# have been RC bugs files which made me hold some
# packages for a few weeks to a month or so but
# eventually those were resolved and nothing has
# popped up in the past few weeks.
# songbird
Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Mo, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:02:40 -0400, songbird wrote:
>> may break your getting of mail process.
>>(i'm using getmail).
>>
>> luckily downgrading the two packages restores
>>things to working again.
>>
>> no time right n
fyi,
may break your getting of mail process.
(i'm using getmail).
luckily downgrading the two packages restores
things to working again.
no time right now for me to find the magic
words to fiddle with to allow this to go
through.
songbird
John Hasler wrote:
> songbird writes:
>> i've been running testing with bits from unstable and/or experimental
>> for quite some time now.
>
> Experimental is a completely different kettle of fish.
of course. :) it is not like i'm using a lot of
things from there. more
ues. i make life
simpler by using volume labels and adjusting /etc/fstab to
use those instead of UUIDs.
the problem i had was that the reformat of the swap
partition got rid of my label. so now if i do anything
that touches the swap partition i reset the label.
songbird
, left, bottom or
middle show options? do they change based upon where
you are?
what do the docs say?
songbird
ugh the
security process and then after each point
release.
by contrast, today in testing was fairly
busy with about 70 packages for my system
being changed.
songbird
out reinstallation.
i'm very happy with how it has been going. i think
Debian rocks and i'm very appreciative of everyone who
makes any sort of contribution to the on-going
development and packaging.
songbird
Ric Moore wrote:
> On 04/23/2017 09:33 PM, songbird wrote:
>> when my computer is turned off the clock
>> runs slow.
>>
>> when my computer is turned on the clock
>> runs fast.
>>
>> so any single adjustment in /etc/adjtime
>> doesn't wo
/
there is also a debian-handbook and debian-reference
(both are also packages which can be installed).
songbird
ep saying this...) and perhaps the new
one will be more consistent with time-keeping.
just thought it was a odd-bit of funny computer
behavior. :)
songbird
or otherwise about packaging –
> my question felt more like that of an interested user who has started to
> explore the possibilities of contributing to Debian.
does installing package how-can-i-help help?
(i've not looked in a while to see what it now
contains, but...)
songbird
plied?
which logs are you looking at? perhaps there is
another you're missing...
is there a raspian community forum someplace?
(i'm not familiar with it and have no idea what it
would do or look like running headless).
songbird
ould have one partition for
booting the stable distribution and only update that
when you have a good time for that.
the thing with these setups is that in Debian you
don't have to get automatic updates if you don't want
them so you know when the system is being upgraded.
songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>> FTR there are recent bugs which sound similar
>> and discussion on the development and release
>> lists which talk about mariadb and the current
>> upgrade situation.
>
> Were you thinking of something in addition
RavenLX wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 07:57 AM, songbird wrote:
>>you can set up several partitions with different
>> levels of fun if you want.
>
> My spare laptop has a 250 GB HD and the laptop I use all the time has a
> 600 GB HD. I already have both partitioned fo
and 9.
FTR there are recent bugs which sound similar
and discussion on the development and release
lists which talk about mariadb and the current
upgrade situation.
once you live on the bleeding edge it is worth
it to check the package bug lists and others to
see what is happening.
songbird
atches
are being applied when set up and building...
songbird
e somehow? i know that is an option for
some desktops...
MATE windows i can do as usual.
songbird
s up
to date, but it lists some basics.
and:
there are references and the mentors list which may
be able to answer specific questions.
that is all i can think of to point you in directions
which may help.
songbird
7db1b72576)
> I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
> As /dev/sda5 is my SWAP.
'splained above...
> 2. I don't understand any implications of:
> The following packages have been kept back:
> linux-image-686-pae xorg xserver-xorg
the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade.
covered by the man page.
songbird
e to reload. then that will show you only
the versions available in Jessie. then any versions
you have upgraded beyond Jessie will show up as
Installed (local or obsolete) in the Status selection.
songbird
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