Re: bash-completion, tab and ambiguous globs

2016-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:14:06AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 29 pluviôse, an CCXXIV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > It can be creepily smart, like knowing the branches in your project > > when you do git checkout bla or things like that. Not bad. > > You mean what zsh already did

Re: I need help

2016-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:09:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 17 Feb 2016 at 18:09:03 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 2/17/2016 5:34 PM, David Wright wrote: > > >On Wed 17 Feb 2016 at 14:07:30 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > >>[snip] > > >>>Depends on what you consider to be

Re: I need help

2016-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Gary Roach wrote: > On 02/16/2016 09:53 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:46:08AM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > >>It would be sweet if we didn't encourage people to post subject lines like > >>"I

Re: systemd Information

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 09:46:56AM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 02:48:14PM -0600, Tim McDonough wrote: > > > >Anyone have a recommendation for a good reference/tutorial on systemd as > >it applies to Debian Jessie? > > > >It's very frustrating to work on configuring static

Re: I need help

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 06:29:06PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > ​If you want to do that I think you need to have some examples of sensible > posts and silly ones for new subscribers to scan through before they become > debian debutantes > > Perhaps we could use popular song titles

Re: I need help

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:46:08AM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > > It would be sweet if we didn't encourage people to post subject lines like > "I need help". It helps no one else but the OP. Ric If only we had a list of psychiatrists or GPs for their area. -- "If you're not careful, the

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

2016-02-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > A point of order here: All this applies to Wheezy; I don't know now > that Debian has adopted systemd and udev has it as a dependency that > all this will work the same. Oh, so Wheezy will work without udev? -- "If you're not

Re: Using vlc to Transcode mpeg2 File to mp4

2016-02-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 04:34:14PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > I have been pounding my head against this wall for a > couple of days. The mpeg2 streams come from a HDHomerun_prime box > which produces DLNA streams. I am trying to convert them using > vlc to mp4 files to play on an

Re: Difficulties while installing additional packages from .iso (USB stick) after successful stretch install

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 11:06:56AM +0100, sb...@secure.mailbox.org wrote: > Hi list members, > > I have successfully installed stretch from a usb stick onto which I had > downloaded the latest amd64 weekly-build DVD-1.iso and other necessary > init files. > Well, after the install process had

Re: Problem to detect external monitor on Lenovo ThinkPad Dock

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 10:11:22AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 04/02/2016, Fedele Mantuano wrote: > > > > > Before Debian, I used Ubuntu 15.10 and I didn't have this issue. > > > > I think that that could be the simple solution. > > It took me two years to get an

Re: Jessie 8.3 - still no update notifications

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:53:33AM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > > I use the Debian cron script 'apticron'. It talks directly with Debian, > > so it knows about updates to all Debian software. I have cron run it in > > the middle of the night. It downloads the updates, and in the morning I > >

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:53:55AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Not quite. It still does need the sentence: > "Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev." > Perhaps even better: > "Please upgrade your kernel before upgrading udev." > to precede it, since that would obviously be

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:38:36PM +0200, Selim T. Erdoğan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 01:41:24PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 26.01.2016 um 11:08 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: > > >> >

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:19:26PM +, Brian wrote: > This might be an improvement: > > You can force the installation of this version of udev, WHICH WILL NOT > WORK WITH YOUR PRESENT, RUNNING KERNEL AT THE NEXT REBOOT, by creating > the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade file. That sounds

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:37:52PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: > 15.01.2016 22:47, startrekfan wrote: > > > *squid3 Version 3.4.8* is deployed in the Jessie stable > > repository.*This version is outdated and has some security risks!!*. > > Version 3.5 is more secure but unfortunately it's only

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: > > Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. > > AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the installation of this version of udev > WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH YOUR RUNNING KERNEL AND WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM > AT THE NEXT

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:34:09PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > >> > >> -- or, would something else be better? > >> > > > > Something else would be better- not using jessie-backports. If you're > > already using testing, enabling jessie-backports is pointless and will > > put you halfway into

Re: Aptitude message.

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 01:23:25PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I had this problem once and had to delete the package cache and the update to > let it rebuild. Delete everything in the '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial' directory also. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating

Re: getting sound in Sid

2016-01-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: > First using # dpkg -l grep | alsa > everything listed, remove with # dpkg -P (packages) You can list them all > with a > space between each for a sequential purge. Seriously? Why on earth would anyone purge alsa? -- "If you're

Re: Reporting unmaintained packages

2016-01-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 07:19:00PM +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 20 Jan 2016 at 20:02:37 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 07:03:33PM +, Brian wrote: > > > A small point: duplicate bugs are merged, not

Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list

2016-01-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:57:52PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:17:42 +1300 Chris Bannister > <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200

Re: eagle-lin64-7.5.0.run, won't

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 05:19:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I hadn't thought of that. My bad. OTOH, although no one has come thru > the router except to view my web page, do I really want to do that in > the event they do get thru? That could make their raising a little hell > just

Re: About new mail client

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:51:53AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 21/12/15 23:59, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Umm, I didn't write that. (You went overboard with your snipping.) > > Sent using mutt from my

Re: ?? user in group audio -- but only root can play sound

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 06:28:17PM +0100, Gregor Zattler wrote: > Thinking about: mpd is also not in these groups and I can her > music. > > So that's still not it. > > When I play some sound, I see aplay working, but do not hear sound: > > $ play /home/grfz/Downloads/tuxok.wav Just as

Re: Reporting unmaintained packages

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 07:03:33PM +, Brian wrote: > A small point: duplicate bugs are merged, not closed. You could do it if > > you are confident in your judgement. A more pertinent point is whether >

Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 04:38:02PM -0500, David Niklas wrote: > > You two are really funny. > This thread is kinda funny too, don't you guys have more productive things > to do then argue? Probably the best time, at a guess, is *after* productive work. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers

Re: eagle-lin64-7.5.0.run, won't

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:38:11AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 19 January 2016 09:59:23 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 05:19:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I hadn't thought of that. My bad. OTOH, although no one has come thru > > > t

Re: no wifi on jessie install

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:57:45PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:42:23AM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: > > Finally got around to installing jessie (clean install) on a thinkpad > > 420 and all seemes to go well except there is no wireless, only ethernet. > > > > lsmod shows

Re: eagle-lin64-7.5.0.run, won't

2016-01-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:28:32PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 16 January 2016 10:57:55 Curt wrote: > > > On 2016-01-16, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> So its full path is /home/gene/eagle-7.5.0/bin/eagle, not > > >> /bin/eagle? > > >> > > >> Lisi > > > > > > I was

Re: DenyHosts

2016-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 04:49:35PM +1100, David wrote: > On 16 January 2016 at 15:48, Steve Matzura wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 01:55:38 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > >>A simple solution: > >> > >>iptables -I INPUT -p dcp -s 59.46.71.0/24 -j DROP > > > > iptables v1.4.21:

Re: Proposal: Restore Nautilus search-as-you-type!

2016-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:09:47PM +0200, / vt wrote: > > Sorry for the rant but this is driving me crazy - I don't see the point of > this change. It makes me a thousand times slower. You'll have to file a bug report in the usual manner. I'm sorry, but your rant has fallen on deaf ears, we are

Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 04:50:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > ;-) > > And please, no group "hugs" among strangers. ;-) I remember a 'poster' I had years ago which read "There are no strangers here, only friends we haven't met." ;-) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list

2016-01-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200 > Amr Saber wrote: > > > Hi there, > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get > > couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double

Re: eagle-lin64-7.5.0.run, won't

2016-01-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:37:49PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Since the gEDA kit in the repo's seems to be rather broken, I thought I'd > give eagle another chance, so I downloaded, from the cadsoft site, the > latest 64 bit linux installer, but can't find a help file, and

Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list

2016-01-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:36:33PM -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Wed, January 13, 2016 12:31 pm, Amr Saber wrote: > > The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally deleted > > and I can't find any version of it online > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main

Re: info/ request

2016-01-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 03:05:05PM +0200, Moreanu Robert - Nicolae wrote: > hi, > > i have to file word.docx and excel.xlsx on my hdd on desktop of debian and > I want to copy them from a live Linuxmint usbstick but I cant because I > have denied > > permission acces on them, also I can't open

Re: gschem only partially works

2016-01-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 07:24:29PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I can see all that in synaptic to prove its there, and mc agree's, but > its in html and iceweasel has lost the ability to open a file on a local > filesystem. No clue why as there sure should not be an ssl problem on a > local

Re: FDisk Help

2016-01-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:53:34PM +0100, jdd wrote: > fdisk -l > > gives all the necessary info > > example: > > Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type > /dev/sdc1 * 2048 62910463 6290841630G 83 Linux > /dev/sdc262910464 937701375 874790912 417,1G

Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png

2016-01-07 Thread Chris Bannister
health care system for her/his > > treatments? > > Chris Bannister writes: > > I personally resent that. > > Do you also resent people who engage in other dangerous hobbies? I suggest you read what I wrote again, including the part you snipped. -- "If you're not

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 04:14:46PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 04:11:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >

Re: Audio and HDMI port not working on Jessie

2016-01-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 05:48:02PM +0100, Giuseppe Longo wrote: > > I'm almost sure that my laptop have an hybrid card, I've already found > this solution on google For the archives, it would be nice to know what the solution is. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating

Re: Prevent shutdown with systemctl

2016-01-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 08:03:48PM +0100, jdd wrote: > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html > > see > > 4.8 Restricting system reboots through the console > > mostly: > > If you want to restrict this, you must check the /etc/inittab so that the > line that

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > A side question to Steve, "Is this post screen reader friendly?" That reminds me of the lecturers who say 'Hands up if you can't hear me at the back.' -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people

Re: Ktouch

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 12:16:30PM -0200, Markos wrote: > Hi, > I just installed Ktouch in Debian Jessie, but I can not open the screen with > the keyboard to do the lessons. > > Any tips? search google, check bugs, if no luck then post back here with a helpful problem description. -- "If

Re: sexist content in the package openclipart2-png

2016-01-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 08:37:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 08:52:24PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > I'm also aware that the respondents to this thread so far appear to be > > (apologies if I'm mistaken) male; I'm not sure whether the women of > > the list have

Re: after sudo aptitude dist-upgrade lost Unicode in ttys and xterm

2016-01-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 07:41:52PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Anders Andersson writes: > > >> After I did sudo aptitude dist-upgrade I lost > >> support for Unicode chars in the ttys as well as > >> xterm. Instead I get '?'. Ideas? > > > > One idea would be to post a list

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 03:45:40PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 03:54:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > (BTW, top-posting makes it difficult to reply, and I couldn't be bothered > > copying and pasting to correct it.) > > You would do well to read

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2016-01-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > True, but who knew that? I go with what I know most of the time, and > what I know about Jigdo can be summed up in one word: nothing. So when > I see a URL that purports to be the one to use, I use it. This is what > makes me crazy

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:54:50 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:39:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > >

Re: wget log from Jigdo

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:36:33AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > This is what I could get from the wget portion of the Jigdo process > running on a Windows 7 SP1 machine. I used a pair of files called > debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1 (.jigdo and .template) downloaded yesterday, > and the mirror at

Re: is twitter useful for debian?

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 06:48:14PM -0500, Donald Norwood wrote: > The people in charge of twitter do not use Twitter for 2-way > communication, only for announcements and to highlight events > or happenings in the F/OSS community. I guess you mean "The people in charge of the Debian twitter

Re: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 03:32:04PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2015, 12:58:23 schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz: > Hi Jörg-Volker > > Did you take a look at dmesg on both systems? Something like > > > > grep -E '(enp|eth)' /var/log/dmesg > This showed no useful information. The only

Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I > just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there > anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again? I don't know what

Re: OT: signatures (was Re: removing TexLive Docs packages)

2015-12-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:38:28AM -0500, Anthony Mapes wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > While we're on the topic of signatures, what do you consider to be good > and bad to include in signatures? Very amusing! You've made my day. :) > - -- > Anthony Mapes >

Re: About new mail client

2015-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:12:29AM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: > > My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I > think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and > sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or > claws

Re: POP3

2015-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 06:28:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Of course I removed the "was": it wasn't in the subject line of the > post you were responding to. Did you get out of the wrong side of bed? Inserting 'was' is normal practice when starting a sub thread. -- "If you're not

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:49:19PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 December 2015 23:33:52 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:20:38PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: [...] > > > "What's wrong with just using a launcher anyway, if it comes up that

Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:27:15AM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Tony van der Hoff <t...@vanderhoff.org> wrote: > > On 08/12/15 13:41, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > >> *groan* *sigh* ... I wonder why there's not a 'dpkg > >&

Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:47:19PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 08/12/15 13:41, Chris Bannister wrote: > > >*groan* *sigh* ... I wonder why there's not a 'dpkg > >--print-architectures' which prints out *all* the architectures it knows > >about. > > > B

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
[PLease don't top post.] On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:20:38PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > I am using the Gnome 3 "classic" desktop. > > When I push the mouser pointer up into the hot-spot in the upper left > corner of the screen, a (sort of) oval pops up containing a magnifying > glass icon

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 12:53:09PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > "Bottom posting" posting after the message to which the reply is made, > so that people who are reading the reply, if they are worth anything, > will read the message to which the reply is made, before reading the > reply that is

Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 06:48:45AM +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Am 06.12.2015 um 22:47 schrieb Klaus Jantzen: > > dpkg --remove-architecture i368 > > apt-get update > > > > But I cannot add the correct architecture: > > > > dpkg --add-architecture i386 > > apt-get update > > dpkg

Systemd debugging (was ... Re: A stop job is running for...)

2015-12-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 10:07:01PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Two issues that come to mind here: > a/ cups-browsed.service declares a dependency on avahi-daemon.service. > So it should be stopped before avahi-daemon. But apparently you don't > have any avahi-daemon process anymore. > Would be

Re: Upgrade to Jessie lost all monitor resolutions except 1024x768

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 11:25:16AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > Some people think "all information" should be saved for the future. Others > don't. It's your choice. Be aware that "all information" in the case of Xorg > logs and dmesg is voluminous, and like other mailing list info, stays on the

Re: OT: reply styles, family matters

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:21:04PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > > I often counter that by passing my would-be reply through tac and > top-post it that way. > > Then they see it from my perspective. What is 'tac'? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who

Re: OT: reply styles, family matters

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:47:00PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le 02/12/2015 20:41, Chris Bannister a écrit : > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:21:04PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > >> I often counter that by passing my would-be reply through tac and > &g

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:12:24PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > In the meantime, its hit another 200 users, discouraging them from ever > touching linux again. In that regard, we are our own worst enemy at > times. Unfortunately, the oar I steer this ship with could be swapped > for a

Re: Upgrade to Jessie lost all monitor resolutions except 1024x768

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 05:10:33PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/30/2015 04:45 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: > >Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > >>On 11/30/2015 04:01 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: > >>>- Boot a Live image and see what resolution it gives you. > >>I can still boot into Wheezy and get 1920x1080. >

Re: OT: reply styles, family matters

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 09:27:02PM -0500, Neal P. Murphy wrote: > I'll top-post here because I am replying to the entire message (quoted below). Sorry to be picky, but there was nothing in the text to which you directly replied to. I think personal correspondence is completely different to

Re: OT: reply styles, family matters

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 08:31:29PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > "Please don't respond line by line. It is patronizing and > annoying." What did he say when you asked what he meant by this? I mean, how on earth could it possibly be patronising? I'm guessing your nephew isn't subscribed to any

Re: install udpxy.1.0.23

2015-11-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:14:24AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > But maybe one should change the first statement in the package > description: > https://packages.debian.org/sid/build-essential > > "If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't >need this package." If you want

Re: Slow Display of Graphics in Chrome

2015-11-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 07:32:25PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > Just recently, I notice a sudden slowing down of the display of areas of the > screen in Chrome when it fully maximised ( but still with toolbar etc on > display) > > I am running a dual monitor gnome 3 setup with intel display

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:10:01PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 27 Nov 2015 at 18:29:20 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 06:40:00PM +, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 15:48:48 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > &g

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 11:18:16AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-11-28 21:16:20 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:10:01PM +, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 27 Nov 2015 at 18:29:20 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > >

Re: two pulseaudio processes

2015-11-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:33:33PM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Chris Bannister <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 01:22:25PM +0100, rgfoiugztfgvbhjk wrote: > >> Does anybody know who Debian-+ is, why he is starting pulseaudio

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 06:54:34PM +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 26 Nov 2015 at 11:04:23 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > Marc writes: > > > Not alone, at all. I run Mate, but I boot to a console, log in there, > > > and use startx to get my X session. > > > > So do I, and I have a decades-old

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 06:40:00PM +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 15:48:48 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2015-11-25 12:58:15 +, Brian wrote: > > > This is where I think the confusion lies. Quoting > > > > > > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/23004/ > > > > > >

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 03:05:26PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Renaud writes: > > One wonders why did they abandon the principle of backward compatibility ? > > Brian writes: > > How does that relate to the principle of constant inovation and > > improvement? > > By way of continuity. Sometimes

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 08:21:55AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 08:22:20AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 23 Nov 2015, John L. Ries wrote: > > > Actually, if someone is starting X via startx instead of a display > > > manager, >

Re: debianlive iso with xfce and clamav

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 03:59:26PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > might feel slow compared to a 'normal' installation.) The live iso, on > the other hand, is intended for installation and system rescue and is > read-only. Isn't the term 'live' a misnomer in that case. Thanks for the warning, I

Re: two pulseaudio processes

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 01:22:25PM +0100, rgfoiugztfgvbhjk wrote: > Does anybody know who Debian-+ is, why he is starting pulseaudio and > using my headsets, and if this is a bug that should be reported > against pulseaudio or something else? If you purge pulseaudio, does everything work as you

Re: install udpxy.1.0.23

2015-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 09:42:51PM +0800, Alex Vong wrote: > Hi, > > Nexttime please send mail to instead of > since the later list is mostly for > junior maintainers instead of users. Ummm, whenever anyone has a question about

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 08:22:20AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 23 Nov 2015, John L. Ries wrote: > > Actually, if someone is starting X via startx instead of a display manager, > > it normally means either that the user is trying to test his X > > configuration, or that X is only intended

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 08:32:43AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Monday 23 November 2015 05:19:43 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > > In my case there was NO log to /var/log/xorg.0.log. > > Since xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1), Xorg log may end up in ~/.local/share/xorg/ > > Hope this helps I've only

Re: Prob activating Samba

2015-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 06:11:47PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Renaud OLGIATI [2015-11-23 12:59:38-03] wrote: > > > root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig -–add smb > ^^ > You have these two different characters there: > > - U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS > – U+2013 EN

Re: Debian 7 to 8 upgrade changlog displays unstable/experimental packages

2015-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 04:11:13PM +, Andrew Puschak wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I inherited some Debian servers running 7 wheezy and am upgrading to 8 > jessie. During apt-get upgrade (after setting /etc/apt/sources.list to > jessie) I get a less command displaying changelogs as seen below

Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 05:56:04PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > startx -- vt7 > > That requires specifying it by hand every time startx is run. As I > indicated, that is unacceptable; I don't have to specify the VT manually > every time I lanch X now in order to get the current behavior, and I

Re: Debian rescue CD oddities

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 05:56:35PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I think I knew what you meant Lisi, but on this side of the small pond we > spell it teensy, meaning a very small quantity of something. Like a > pinch of salt in a recipe. Thats normally less than a dash unless you > shake

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:09:01AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-22 13:24 (UTC+0100): > > > I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but not > > *at the same time* (under debian) > > > The working setup (linixmint) does not appear to

Re: The word 'should'.

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:54:07AM +, Ben Stones wrote: > Folks, > > There are a lot of arguments going around in this e-mail chain and now > people are just hurting other people's feelings. Arguments are pointless if > no one agrees with each other ... Au contraire, arguments are pointless

Re: Adobe Flash

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 09:43:37PM +0300, moxalt wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 10:05:44 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > > According to you. Not according to "The design of the unix operating > > system", Maurice >> J. Bach, Prentice/Hall, 1986, page 4: > > > > Now that I have

Re: Adobe Flash

2015-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 01:00:43PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > On 11/21/2015 12:02 PM, moxalt wrote: > >Prison or sanatorium? > > Treated properly, as I see it, prison could be much more of a sanitarium. Life is like a box of breakfast cereal ... *ducks*. -- "If you're not careful, the

Re: Adobe Flash

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:35:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [...] > > > Please stop preaching. > > (Darn. Seems I was too subtle last time) > > Now you're preaching. Preachers preach... and they're important too Ummm, no.

Re: var is full...

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:45:48AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Using strace, the difference seems to be that apt-get clean removes > /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin. However you don't need to run apt-get > update : this file seems to be rebuilt by any apt command. > > apt-get clean > apt-cache

Re: Adobe Flash

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 04:02:41PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 02:56:53AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:35:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +

Re: Root account blocked

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data theft. > Following the above steps, anyone having physical access to the device by What above steps? The context is lost! :( -- "If you're not careful, the

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:33:13PM +, David Parfitt wrote: > > I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen > a case where it has been reported to work :) apt-get purge pulseaudio > wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :(( JFTR, it worked for me,

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:56:32PM +, David Parfitt wrote: > [This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.] Ummm, aren't they all eventually? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the

Re: var is full...

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 06:41:50AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Brian: > > > > To remove every package and the package lists in apt/archives: > > > > apt-get clean. > > The package lists are unaffected by the clean operation. You do not need > to run an update afterwards. Then explain the

Re: var is full...

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:33:50PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:08:35 -0500 > Whit Hansell wrote: > > Hello Whit, > > >is very small and won't really give me much room. Can anyone with > >knowledge give me the subdirectories in var/cache that I can

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