Re: A few questions from a newbie.
John Gay wrote: Thanks for the info, but I think you over looked a few items. The reason I want to upgrade to potato is, I installed x11amp, which required newer libs than slink uses. This has broken apt. I've seen this problem mentioned before and the recommended fix was to upgrade to potato. Also, my did you get x11amp from potato? If so it probably requires glibc2.1 libraries, only available in potato. If there is not an x11amp package in slink, then a solution would be to download the (debianised) source and compile it. Almost all of the debian sources (in my experience) seem to compile straight away, with no problems. This way the package would only require whatever version of the libraries you have in your system (glibc 2.0 in slink, unless you have inadvertently upgraded your libraries to glibc2.1 when you got x11amp). video card requires the mach64 server for X11R6 3.3.3.1 which is part of potato, slink uses 3.3.2.3 My system is currently working with X3.3.2.3 with the mach64 server for 3.3.3.1, I'm not sure if this is such a good idea, but it works for I understand this to be a perfectly acceptable configuration. I have done a similar thing myself for a while (until 2.1 came out, when I stopped being a hamm/potato system and moved to slink, although I have since gone back to using some potato packages] If you have to use the potato mach64 packages, they probably require glibc2.1, so you could recompile them as well. (big download though ;-) Apparently netscape has some problems with glibc2.1, although I am having no more crashes than I did with glibc2.0. me for the moment. Due to personal problems, I have to fly to the States this weekend. I'll be gone for 3 weeks. I think I'll just wait till I get back, then pack up my system and cart it down to the local ILUG and have some experts help whats the I stand for? me set the rest of it up. So, hopefully, by next month I'll have my system up and running and on the net. I'll then be able to work on other probs a lot easier, as I'll then have E-Mail at home! Thanks again for all the assistance. Cheers, John Gay -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null frankie -- ,-. Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 07:49:32PM +0100, Frankie wrote: If there is not an x11amp package in slink, then a solution would be to download the (debianised) source and compile it. Almost all of the debian sources (in my experience) seem to compile straight away, with no problems. This way the package would only require whatever version of the libraries you have in your system (glibc 2.0 in slink, unless you have inadvertently upgraded your libraries to glibc2.1 when you got x11amp). Well, then I have a question. I had the .debian-ized source for a program that required a newer lib than I had. I compiled it, but it still claimed to need the lib anyway. I used a --force option to install it in the end, and it worked fine. Is that the way it should have been done? Ciao! -- Tuco: (reading a letter) See you soon idi... idi Blondie: Idiots. It's for you. (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly) The Doctor What: Need I say more? http://www.gerf.org/~docwhat/ [EMAIL PROTECTED](finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key) KF6VNC
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
Thanks for the info, but I think you over looked a few items. The reason I want to upgrade to potato is, I installed x11amp, which required newer libs than slink uses. This has broken apt. I've seen this problem mentioned before and the recommended fix was to upgrade to potato. Also, my video card requires the mach64 server for X11R6 3.3.3.1 which is part of potato, slink uses 3.3.2.3 My system is currently working with X3.3.2.3 with the mach64 server for 3.3.3.1, I'm not sure if this is such a good idea, but it works for me for the moment. Due to personal problems, I have to fly to the States this weekend. I'll be gone for 3 weeks. I think I'll just wait till I get back, then pack up my system and cart it down to the local ILUG and have some experts help me set the rest of it up. So, hopefully, by next month I'll have my system up and running and on the net. I'll then be able to work on other probs a lot easier, as I'll then have E-Mail at home! Thanks again for all the assistance. Cheers, John Gay
A few questions from a newbie.
I've been following this list fro a while and currently have 2.1 installed on my PC at home. I got a CD from a friend who provides various CD's for the asking here in Ireland. I choose Debian because I like the philosophy, though I don't subscribe to some of the extremist views I've heard RE: Bruce, Eric and Richard. Just a little back ground of my knowledge and system. I've followed Linux from the Debian 1.3 days with great interest, but little involvement because I didn't have my own PC. I tried installing on one I made from scrap here at work, but the bosses were very hostile to linux and it fell by the way-side. I bought a PC in April. I put WindowsNT on a 2G partition and set-up the remaining 4G for Linux with a 2.1 CD. I used the dual-boot how-to to get dual booting to work. I needed to use the Mach64 server for X 3.3.3.1 to support my ATI Rage IIc AGP video card, but this worked fine with the X11R6 3.3.2 that was part of Debian 2.1, Great! I toyed around with compiling sound into my kernel, but had no joy there, so I downloaded the oss package and this works, but I only get sound for 20 minutes at a time. I want to have a look around in the config files for oss to see if I can get sound working without oss. Any pointers for where to look will be appreciated. I have successfully installed mtv, after I learned how to update some libraries. I felt really great after that. I also recently installed x11amp, but had more problems because one of the libraries installed conflicts with apt. Dselect now give loads of dependency problems when run. x11amp works, but modzilla navigator doesn't. I recently got internet access on the Windows side, but I'm not sure how to set it up for the Linux side. I've got a Sportster internal modem that work with minicom, but only after I hot-sync my Palm III over ttyS0??? I think my best option is to ; Connect to the internet and update my system to potato. My worry is, being new to the entire UNIX/Linux type system, that unless I'm very careful, I'll end up with a completely broken system. Most of it works now, but I still need quite a few things before I can even consider re-partitioning the Windows partition. As I'm a Palm user, I am very interested in KPilot, this , of course suggests that I'll need KDE. I also need a good office app. I want to try star-office, but until I can get the linux side connected to the net, that is a non-starter. I also want Netscape. Since I can connect to the net with Windows, I could start downloading everything with windows, but the Windows partition is rather full! Does anyone know if there are any tools for windows to access an ext2 partition? This would allow me to download everything I need through windows and put it onto one of my Linux partitions. I don't hold out much hope for this idea, but if you don't ask, you won't know. I've had a look around some of the archives, and have been following this list for a while. My main question is, If I update my system to potato, what should I leave alone to avoid problems. I.E., what packages should I NOT update to ensure I don't break anything. I want to get: 1) X11R6 3.3.3.1 This is for my video card. Currently it is working with 3.3.2.3 with the 3.3.3.1 Mach64 server, but I'd feel better with all of X the same version. 2) Netscape. I've heard lots discussions concerning different versions of Netscape, so which version is most stable for Linux? 3) Star-Office. This seems to be the most complete office with the most M$ compatibility. 4) KPilot. For Palm III connectivity, this seems to be the most complete. Does this require KDE, or can I use it with other wm's? I'm currently undecided on the KDE debate, though I'm more concerned with complaints of it being slow and bloated rather that the licensing issues. 5)XCopilot. The version I have seems to have some strange problems. When I open it with the uclinux rom image, it works, but when I use a Palm O/S image I copied from my own Palm III, I keep getting data errors in the terminal window that I launched it from. This image does work with the Windows version of CoPilot, just not XCoPilot?!? 6) mtv. This is a really great MPEG player. I've had nothing but problems with any other mpeg players, Windows and Linux alike. I am really considering paying for this, I think it is worth it. 7) x11amp. My main reason for upgrading to potato in the first place. It works on my current system, but has caused many dep. probs on my system. 8) a good CD ripper. I've had great success using cdparanoia and bladeenc for my mp3's. I'm looking for a good GUI. I'm open to recommendations. I'm sure I could go on and on and on and on . . . . , but I'll leave it at this. I'm very new to the Linux concept, I've grown up in the Windows world and have gotten lazy. I realise there is a steep learning curve for Linux, and I'm working my hardest with the time I have. I'm just getting very frustrated being so close, yet still so far. I've asked my local LUG if someone would
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
John Gay wrote: I've been following this list fro a while and currently have 2.1 installed on my PC at home. I got a CD from a friend who provides various CD's for the asking here in Ireland. I choose Debian because I like the philosophy Welcome! I'll try to answer a couple of your questions below. I recently got internet access on the Windows side, but I'm not sure how to set it up for the Linux side. I've got a Sportster internal modem that work with minicom, but only after I hot-sync my Palm III over ttyS0??? Debian has a script at /usr/sbin/pppconfig which is a simple way to set up an internet connection. It prompts you for the all the neccessary information such as phone number, and uses that info to create/edit the appropriate files. You can then connect by using pon, disconnect using poff, and monitor the progress using plog. Often, the one piece of information that people aren't sure of is the authentication method used by your service provider such as PAP, CHAP etc. Since you have it working in Windows, I believe the Win9X connect box shows this information in details after a connection is made. I think my best option is to ; Connect to the internet and update my system to potato. My worry is, being new to the entire UNIX/Linux type system, that unless I'm very careful, I'll end up with a completely broken system. For now at least, you might be better off sticking with slink. There's certainly no reason to upgrade to potato just to get connected to the internet. I also want Netscape. The slink (stable) distribtion has several versions of Netscape Communicator packaged in the non-free section. If you set up apt-get to connect to a Debian ftp site, and aim it at slink, these commands: apt-get update (to get the package information files) apt-get install communicator-smotif-45 communicator-nethelp communicator-spell will download and install Communicator 4.5 and all it's dependencies, plus the the spell checker and help. To set up apt-get for this, you need to edit the file /etc/sources.list to tell it where and which distribution to connect to. See the man pages for apt-get and for sources.list for info on how to do this: man apt-get man sources.list Does anyone know if there are any tools for windows to access an ext2 partition? There is a free program call explore2fs, which allows access to ext2 partitions from both WinNT 4.0 and Win9X. I can't connect to the site right now, but I recently used this url successfully to get to it: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm I use it to read my Linux partitions from Win98, but have never tried to write to ext2 with it. I believe the author states that the write code may still have some bugs in Win9X. Good luck, Tom
Re: A few questions from a newbie.
Just a correction: apt-get install communicator-smotif-45 communicator-nethelp communicator-spell For Communicator 4.5, the spell checker package name is communicator-spell-45, and the help file is communicator-nethelp-45 Tom
