Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything. I've moved a sofa and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers. I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the carrier. This made the bike possible to ride, but

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Joris Huizer
I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these levels that all of you

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 23:31, Pigeon wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything. I've moved a sofa and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers. I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 10:31:32PM +, Pigeon wrote: How does your trailer cope with the bike leaning over on corners? Hitch is on a swivel joint and clamps to the bicycle. Trailer doesn't torque. -- .''`. Baloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `-

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread ajlewis2
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 11:40, Cam Ellison wrote: * Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ ... ] I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 06:32:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 15:30, Sam Varghese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: [snip] I work as a journalist for the Tech

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread John Griffiths
Actually, I know several journos who use Debian. It makes testing and evaluating SW packages trivial. Further to that, in the non-tech press I know many political journo's with a love affair with abiword under windows. mostly because it doesn't play silly games with them. -- To

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:46:34PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: But anyways, started out on Slackware in... Hmm. I remember 1.2.x kernels more than the actual version. Something like version 3.0, which puts it in 1996? I started getting interested in Linux when my buddy Tabor was going on

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Glyn Millington
Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. To some extent it goes with the OS. Maybe a liking for

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! And I was a Dutch Reformed minister for 22 years using Linux on my desktop for

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread andrej hocevar
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Kevin . Bewley
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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 04:14, Johann Spies wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! And I was a Dutch

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 16/01/03 Lloyd Zusman did speaketh: So to me, the differences between Windows and Linux fall into three categories: 1. Quality -- Unix and its descendants such as Linux are robust, 2. Religion -- Many people in the Linux world (me included) are 3. Fun -- For a programmer,

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread tony
Reading the posted messages to this list, all these replies, you come closer to an understanding of the beauty of life. This mailing list is a poem. I am a Cuban-Russian-Ukrainian-Canadian-American Mathematics College professor. I have had technical education, I suppose, since this is what I do

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Russell
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new... I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Rohan Nicholls
* Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030117 02:00]: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on Good choice, the packaging system is amazing. this list is a little out of my

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Cam Ellison
* Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ ... ] I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so | long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these | levels that all of

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... Linux is a version of Unix that first came out in the mid-1990's. So by now, it's part of the nearly 30-year evolution of the original Unix. I think it's worth pointing out that the original unix was very seriously based on (concepts of) the

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brian Nelson
Brooks R. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so | long that you have advanced your

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Jeff
Scott --sidewalking--, 2003-Jan-16 16:30 -0700: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Well, yes and no. I have sort of a round about computer history. I got my first computer when I was 10, a TI-99/4A -- that should date me properly, I spent many hours of playing Tunnels of Doom a few months ago under MESS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: If you want instant-Linux with passive attitudes and expectations that evrything is configured by GUI, Debian may not be ready to address needs of you yet. Debian does not require

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Lale
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| That doesn't sound at all like the Brooks Robinson I'm familiar with | /baseball joke... Well the story goes like this Circa 1968/1969 my (then 10 year old) brother was watching a marvelous third baseman. He turns to my mother and asks that if she has another child, could they name it

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 15:30, Sam Varghese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: [snip] I work as a journalist for the Tech sub-sections of the Web sites of two Australian broadsheet newspapers - The Age

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 14:09, Jeff wrote: Scott --sidewalking--, 2003-Jan-16 16:30 -0700: [snip] You'll find that the biggest commonality among Linux users is their love for Linux. Reasons and backgrounds vary widely. This should Or the desire to have a real workstation/server-class OS for a

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: To some extent it goes with the OS. Maybe a liking for the Under-the-bonnet approach goes with a certain kind of personality? Certainly in the bad onld days of Winders 95, it was _easier_ to use Linux than to be constantly

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:12:34AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: environment full time, I finally decided to put RedHat 5.1 on my PC. After ignoring the moron at Future Shop who told me that you couldn't dual boot a PC, I dual booted it just fine between Linux and '95. It didn't take long A

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2003-01-17 Thread Scott --sidewalking--
Thus spake Scott --sidewalking-- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Pigeon
I've been mucking about with computers for over 20 years, starting with the Commodore Pet. I refuse to categorise it as a hobby or a career. I have been paid for doing it, though not very often at the moment. I do it because I enjoy it - same reason for most things I do, like electronics design

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to

Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Scott --sidewalking--
All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and am hoping I can survive the

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: [snip] I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Omnecide
Im still in my junior year of highschool - Original Message - From: Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling? All, I am new to the Linux world and have

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-01-16T23:30:54Z, Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers... I am. I got a degree in Comp. Sci., but was working in system administration before that (I went to school as a non-traditional student). ...and that is why

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread John Hasler
Scott writes: I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. I board and train horses and grow hay for a living. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Lloyd Zusman
Scott --sidewalking-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ ... ] I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul E Condon
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Scott --sidewalking-- said: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:08:56PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: I board and train horses and grow hay for a living. Security officer workin the third watch at a research hospital gaurding an enterance. -- .''`. Baloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `-

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Erinn
I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these levels that all of you

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 10:23:45PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: Linux is a version of Unix that first came out in the mid-1990's. So by now, it's part of the nearly 30-year evolution of the original Unix. Since when is 1991 the mid-90's? 8:o) In other words, MS Windows is a Johnny-come-lately,

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Steve Juranich
Okay, I'll weigh in. I'm finishing up my master's degree in electrical engineering. My lab is solely Linux and Solaris machines, but used Linux exclusively for a couple of years during my undergrad, too. Everybody used to wonder why my reports looked so much better than everybody else and I