Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:39:56AM -0500, Indulekha wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: After running 'pppconfig' to install a new dialup connection to a provider, I need to enter the directory /etc/ppp/peers/ and have to change the group of

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-11 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:48:00AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:39:56AM -0500, Indulekha wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: After running 'pppconfig' to install a new dialup connection to a provider, I need to enter the

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:12 AM, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote: Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux?...  make sure your modem is supported by linux, install packages ppp and pppconfig, read a few man pages, adjust a few scripts/config files,

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:50:33PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: I live in a very remote rural area, so dialup is my only option. Someone else suggested wvdial, which works and is good, but I prefer to use pppconfig to create the connection, pon/poff to start/end it, and pppstatus so I can see

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:50:33PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: I live in a very remote rural area, so dialup is my only option. Someone else suggested wvdial, which works and is good, but I prefer to use pppconfig to create the

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Go Linux
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: What a hassle! I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider here in Tennessee. Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux users. Service was reliable until ATT screwed up locally. -- To

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 10:05:29AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: What a hassle! I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider here in Tennessee. Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 10:05:29AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: What a hassle! I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider here in Tennessee. Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Go Linux
They have other options with higher usage levels. Look at the site more carefully or send them an email. --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: From: Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Zimmerman
songbird songb...@anthive.com writes:   as to specifics why gnome-ppp doesn't work and bugs that's the usual volunteers do what interests them.  if you want it fixed, get the code and fix it.  if you want someone else to fix it, pay them. Yes, that seems to be the core of the issue. The people

Re: does anyone care about dialup

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
Please don't break threads (reply to your own posts instead of creating new ones). Please *do* include a subject. On 10/05/12 09:51, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a problem (back when I still used PPP)

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:55:40PM -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: songbird songb...@anthive.com writes:   as to specifics why gnome-ppp doesn't work and bugs that's the usual volunteers do what interests them.  if you want it fixed, get the code and fix it.  if you want someone else to fix it,

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Paul Zimmerman aiwa...@yahoo.com [120507 22:36]: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? ... Does anyone working on Linux care about dialup? Some people do still have uses for it, and some even depend on it. Unless you have time to burn, the most pragmatic approach likely is

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 07 mai 12, 18:05:30, Go Linux wrote: Be aware though that some phone companies (like ATT locally) are intentionally throttling data connections to move used to higher paying services. That's why I ultimately had to get off dialup. What's there to throttle? With 56kbits/s

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Miles Bader
It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a problem (back when I still used PPP) where the connection was getting dropped mysteriously, and [after much frustration trying to figure out what was happening] it turned out my provider didn't support TCP header compression; turning

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Go Linux
--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: From: Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 2:31 AM It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a problem (back when I still

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:16:55 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: (please, no html, thanks) Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access  for most

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:09:44AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: What's there to throttle? With 56kbits/s (theoretical max. speed) it's barely usable with today's sites. I think you are being generous - gmail, google reader etc. are completely unusable at that speed unfortunately :( Last time I

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 07/05/12 06:16 PM, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access for most home users, and it was painfully difficult

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread songbird
Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux?... make sure your modem is supported by linux, install packages ppp and pppconfig, read a few man pages, adjust a few scripts/config files, make sure in the right groups, done. works well for me, and is certainly

Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Zimmerman
Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access  for most home users, and it was painfully difficult then, as well. Since KDE 4 is such a hog I

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Hitt
actually, i was using dialup until 2008 i think --- both ppp and perhaps kermit (getting a little foggy there). i certainly did not make any kernel mods to do it. but i do remember that getting it right was a bear (probably i'm foggy about it because it is a painful, repressed memory :) ). dan

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On Tue, May 8, 2012 01:16, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access  for most home users, and it was painfully

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
Not difficult at all. There is wvdial package and c-kermit packages available for that job. I was using c-kermit and mskermit back as far as 1989 though I only managed my first talking linux installation in 2000. Kermit has a book written about how to use it and my name is in that book for

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Indulekha
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 03:16:55PM -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access for most home users,

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/05/12 08:16, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? I hadn't noticed it was difficult neither dialup as a protocol or the using your specific modem and dialup. snipped Is this a request for assistance or just a rant? Since KDE 4 is such a

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Go Linux
--- On Mon, 5/7/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: From: Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 7:50 PM I prefer to use pppconfig to create the connection, pon/poff to start