Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-26 Thread Jamin Davis
David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be good reason for it still in terms of security. /boot doesn't need to be mounted on a running system. I'm not sure if that adds a lot of security though. I'm thinking no. To alter any of the kernel files you'd need root privileges, and

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-26 Thread Jamin Davis
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart desires, whenever you need them. After reading this thread I

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 25, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On the other hand, having /boot separate could be more robust in the event of an unclean shutdown. The system won't boot at all if the kernel file gets corrupted, so having /boot separate, and perhaps mounted ro helps protect it. I

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread Klein Moebius
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-24 16:40:08 -0500]: Or go out on Ebay and buy some replacement RAM chips. If the chips on your Hell aren't soldered onto the mobo. Yep, good point. -- Regards, Klein. Hey, what do you expect from a culture that *drives* on *parkways* and *parks*

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system? I always thought /boot was just a kludge to get around old BIOSes that couldn't load anything that wasn't on the first part of the I

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 25, 2007, at 5:23 PM, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system? I always thought /boot was just a kludge to get around old BIOSes that couldn't load anything

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread John Hasler
David Brodbeck writes: I'm thinking no. To alter any of the kernel files you'd need root privileges, and if you have that, you can do 'mount /boot'. True for an intelligent cracker, but a trojan trying to patch the kernel isn't going to know to mount anything. -- John Hasler -- To

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:59:02AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 25, 2007, at 5:23 PM, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system? I always thought /boot was

Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Martin McCormick
It appears after reading the fdisk manual, that it is best to put swap on whats left of the disk after calculating one's other partition needs. The boot image should end up in the lowest sector numbers. Do I understand this right? I am about to reformat a 20-gig hard disk on a

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:10:41AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: It appears after reading the fdisk manual, that it is best to put swap on whats left of the disk after calculating one's other partition needs. The boot image should end up in the lowest sector numbers. Do I understand

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 08:10, Martin McCormick wrote: It appears after reading the fdisk manual, that it is best to put swap on whats left of the disk after calculating one's other partition needs. The boot image should end up in the lowest sector

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart desires, whenever you need them. I'd always heard

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Cassiano Bertol Leal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition,

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart desires, whenever you need them. I'd always heard that swap files are slower than swap partitions.

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Bob McGowan
Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 12:51, Stefan Monnier wrote: I'm a big proponent of swap *files*. Once you allocate the whole disk, there no room left over if you want to add another swap partition, whereas you can add as many swap files as your heart desires,

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition AFAIK. Or is this outated info? I think that's true. I don't usually make the root filesystem an LVM volume, anyway. In most distributions it's quite small and

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 24, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU architectures, so that you can't just upgrade your mobo to AMD64 and retain your /home. Well, now you've got me curious. If so, this is potentially a serious issue, because

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:14:42 -0700 David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition AFAIK. Or is this outated info? I think that's true. I don't usually make the root

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:51:14 -0400 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All my drives have 2 partitions: a /boot (with ext2 or ext3) of about 100MB and the rest is an partition dedicated to LVM. The reason for the separate /boot is that GRUB does not know how to read files from LVM

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Celejar wrote: Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition AFAIK. Or is this outated info? I believe it is actually outdated information; GRUB apparently supports LVM these days: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID Check the version

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Klein Moebius
* Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-24 08:10:41 -0500]: It appears after reading the fdisk manual, that it is best to put swap on whats left of the disk after calculating one's other partition needs. The boot image should end up in the lowest sector numbers. Do I understand

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 16:02, Klein Moebius wrote: [snip] In older machines where hard drive physical speed can be a noticable factor in machine performance, it makes sense to to place your partitions that see the most activity in terms of read/write accesses

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU Don't believe everything you read. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LVM volume portability (was: Re: Good fdisk Practices)

2007-08-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Aug 24, 2007, at 1:18 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU architectures, so that you can't just upgrade your mobo to AMD64 and retain your /home. Well, now you've got me curious. If

Believing what you read (was Re: Good fdisk Practices)

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/07 16:24, Stefan Monnier wrote: I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU Don't believe everything you read. That's why I qualified my statement. I think it was Doug Tutty who reported here that he had LVM

Re: Believing what you read (was Re: Good fdisk Practices)

2007-08-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 06:55:09PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/24/07 16:24, Stefan Monnier wrote: I read recently on this list that LVM is not portable across CPU Don't believe everything you read. That's why I qualified my statement. I think it was Doug Tutty who reported here

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-24 Thread Cameron Hutchison
David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd always heard that swap files are slower than swap partitions. Is that a myth? Not a myth, just old information. It used to be the case that swap files were slower than swap partitions, but this stopped being true sometime around kernel 2.4 Also, is