Re: Installing xorg without all those video drivers

2007-08-07 Thread Robert S
I'd like to install xorg, but only with the video drivers that I need.  I'm 
doing a net install.


I do it by trial and error, but usually I start from the things I know I 
need for sure.


xserver-xorg-video-intel (replace with your driver)
xserver-xorg-vesa (just for backup)
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse

Spice with some xfonts:

xfonts-100dpi
xfonts-75dpi (probably don't need those as I run X with 100 dpi)
xfonts-base
xfonts-terminus (my favorite :)

Don't forget to turn off recommends first (at least temporary).


I managed to do this with some difficulty, but your choice of packages 
is basically right.  I used aptitude, as suggested by Doug (see previous 
posting), and switched recommends off.


Aptitude is one of the great things about Etch.

The difficult part was installing the proprietary ATI drivers for my ATI 
X1950 GT card.  The debian kernel driver does not support this and I 
needed to download the latest driver from ATI and turn it into a .deb. 
It involved installing quite a few development packages.


All works fine now.


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Installing xorg without all those video drivers

2007-08-06 Thread Robert S
I'd like to install xorg, but only with the video drivers that I need.  I'm 
doing a net install.

A query on the Debian IRC yielded painfully, without using the meta package 
that pulls them in.

Maybe there's a HOWTO somewhere out there that somebody can direct me to. 




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Re: Installing xorg without all those video drivers

2007-08-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 07:39:05PM +1000, Robert S wrote:
 I'd like to install xorg, but only with the video drivers that I need.
 I'm doing a net install.

Here's how I do it:

First, I use aptitude interactively.  If you haven't used aptitude
before, then that's a separate project to do first.  Aptitude gives you
a curses interface similar to but more powerful than dselect.  Aptitude
keeps track of which packages were installed by you and which were
installed to meet dependencies.  So far, similiar to apt-get.  However,
when you remove a package that you installed, aptitude will remove
anything that then doesn't have anything depending on it that was marked
as automatic.

Then, I go to the xorg meta-package.  I scroll down to the things it
depends on and I select them manually, and I dig down into the
dependancies and adjust things.  For example, somewhere there a package
will depend on _either_ an -all package or a device-specific package.
Left on its own, it will pull in the -all whereas I can mark the device
spcific package for manual and deselect the -all.

It sounds more complicated than it is.  I'm comfortable with aptitude so
its not.

Doug.


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Re: Installing xorg without all those video drivers

2007-08-06 Thread Robert S

Then, I go to the xorg meta-package.  I scroll down to the things it
depends on and I select them manually, and I dig down into the
dependancies and adjust things.  For example, somewhere there a package
will depend on _either_ an -all package or a device-specific package.
Left on its own, it will pull in the -all whereas I can mark the device
spcific package for manual and deselect the -all.



Thanks.  I'll give it a go tomorrow and will report back on progress.


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Re: Installing xorg without all those video drivers

2007-08-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 07:39:05PM +1000, Robert S wrote:
 I'd like to install xorg, but only with the video drivers that I need.  I'm 
 doing a net install.
 
 A query on the Debian IRC yielded painfully, without using the meta package 
 that pulls them in.
 
 Maybe there's a HOWTO somewhere out there that somebody can direct me to. 

I do it by trial and error, but usually I start from the things I know I 
need for sure.

xserver-xorg-video-intel (replace with your driver)
xserver-xorg-vesa (just for backup)
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse

Spice with some xfonts:

xfonts-100dpi
xfonts-75dpi (probably don't need those as I run X with 100 dpi)
xfonts-base
xfonts-terminus (my favorite :)

All other xorg packages I can spot are marked auto-installed so they 
were pulled in as dependencies.

Don't forget to turn off recommends first (at least temporary).

If I didn't forget anything you should have a running xorg, otherwise 
post the error message :)

Regards,
Andrei
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