On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:47:34 -0400
Tony Baldwin to...@myownsite.me wrote:
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of times
you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure dwm without
coding.
However, there is a difference between discussing code in the context of
a solution
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure
dwm without coding.
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure
dwm without coding.
Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure
dwm without
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure
dwm without coding.
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:40:28 -0400
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:40:28 -0400
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially
On 06/28/2014 06:14 AM, slitt wrote:
LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 14:02:54 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
On 06/28/2014 06:14 AM, slitt wrote:
LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 06:37:09PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
First, this isn't the slightest bit OT. A week doesn't go by where I
don't need to write either a simple script or a slightly bigger program
to make Linux do just what I want.
I disagree. It has NOTHING to do with debian support,
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:02:54PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
What do people like instead of Perl, and why?
Are you aware of the OT mailing list:
Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 14:52:25 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:02:54PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
What do people like instead of Perl, and why?
Are you aware of the OT mailing list:
Offtopic discussions among Debian users and
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
I didn't say, but, yes, I have looked at Ruby. It seems to be
purpose-built for web stuff, which would help me with the web apps I'm
wanting, but I don't know how well it would work for everything else.
I'd say that Ruby itself is a
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
I keep waiting for Ruby to mature and get past these packaging
problems. I hope that one day it will be as well packaged as Perl.
But years have rolled by and still the problems continue.
As someone watching from the outside of the Ruby world (well, standing
* 2011-12-25T12:46:07-08:00 * David Christensen wrote:
I'm looking for a language/ system that is general-purpose in scope
and supports historical through recent paradigms: procedural,
structured, modular, and OO.
The applications I want to build include web content management
systems and
On 12/25/2011 06:17 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Did you say you'd looked at Ruby?
I didn't say, but, yes, I have looked at Ruby. It seems to be
purpose-built for web stuff, which would help me with the web apps I'm
wanting, but I don't know how well it would work for everything else.
Well,
David Christensen wrote:
Joel Rees wrote:
Did you say you'd looked at Ruby?
I didn't say, but, yes, I have looked at Ruby. It seems to be
purpose-built for web stuff, which would help me with the web apps
I'm wanting, but I don't know how well it would work for everything
else.
I like
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:14 AM, David Christensen
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
On 12/25/2011 06:17 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Did you say you'd looked at Ruby?
I didn't say, but, yes, I have looked at Ruby. It seems to be purpose-built
for web stuff, which would help me with the web apps
Which Debian Squeeze package do you recommend for hello, world! and STFW
tutorials?
Not enough experience with it to make a recommendation, so I'll defer
to Teemu on that. (I already had SBCL loaded, and I'm loading
emacs-slime now to take a look.
Digging around, I find a nice surprise on
On 12/26/2011 01:12 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote:
That's Common Lisp. I think SBCL is the most popular free-software
implementation for the language. Emacs+Slime is the most popular
development environment.
I've installed all three packages and will play with them.
Usenet group comp.lang.lisp is
On 12/26/2011 02:54 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
But Ruby suffers from being popular on platforms that lack a good
package manager. That hurts it terribly on Debian because so many
Ruby authors have written so much packaging code making it difficult
or perhaps impossible to create a well behaved
David Christensen wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
But Ruby suffers from being popular on platforms that lack a good
package manager. That hurts it terribly on Debian because so many
Ruby authors have written so much packaging code making it difficult
or perhaps impossible to create a well behaved
* 2011-12-26T14:14:13-08:00 * David Christensen wrote:
Which Debian Squeeze package do you recommend for hello, world! and
STFW tutorials?
#!/usr/bin/sbcl --script
(write-line Hello, world!)
* 2011-12-26T15:43:54-08:00 * David Christensen wrote:
On 12/26/2011 01:12 AM, Teemu
On 12/23/11, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
Someone wrote:
I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the
early years of the language. I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2
compiler for years. Always on Unix machines and never on Windows.
I have become disillusioned with
On 12/25/11, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
Rather than APL itself -- value judgement aside --
you might consider its successor and superset,
*J* ( http://www.jsoftware.com/ ).
Is there a package for that?
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Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
(Sigh. My son hates programming. He likes mucking around with the
source code for his customized Three Kingdoms MUD. Perl. I've tried to
teach him C and it's like he thinks I'm trying to brainwash him for
even mentioning it. Heh.)
A MUD written in Perl? Sounds
Yes, specifically at http://www.jsoftware.com/stable.htm,
though I'd recommend linking from Getting Started on
the Home page -- for overview, docs, labs
Joel Rees wrote:
On 12/25/11, PMApeterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
Rather than APL itself -- value judgement aside --
you might
Joel Rees wrote:
On 12/23/11, David Christensendpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
Someone wrote:
I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the
early years of the language. I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2
compiler for years. Always on Unix machines and never on Windows.
I have become
On 12/25/2011 09:42 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On a more general note: for advanced application (as the subject
focuses on), and assuming that advanced translates to complicated -
Yes, you caught me. I had a hard time deciding what word to use, and
settled on advanced. To elaborate, I'm
David Christensen wrote:
On 12/25/2011 09:42 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The type of applications I've been writing with Perl include system
utilities, text munging, data acquisition and control, and CGI
scripts. Most everything interfaces via the environment, STDIN,
STDOUT, STDERR, and/or
On 12/26/11, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
On 12/25/2011 09:42 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On a more general note: for advanced application (as the subject
focuses on), and assuming that advanced translates to complicated -
Yes, you caught me. I had a hard time deciding
David Christensen wrote:
Any other comments/ suggestions regarding programming languages/
systems for advanced applications on Linux?
Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or want to be; or you could go all the way to
Brainfuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck)
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
Any other comments/ suggestions regarding programming languages/ systems
for advanced applications on Linux?
Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or
On 2011-12-24 23:43:18 +0800, lina wrote:
Tonight I am pretty free, so started to read something about perl.
#!/usr/bin/perl
print Hello World! \n;
$a = 3;
print $a \n;
@food = {apples, pears, eels};
I suppose you want:
@food = (apples, pears, eels);
{...} is used for a hash
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
On 2011-12-24 23:43:18 +0800, lina wrote:
Tonight I am pretty free, so started to read something about perl.
#!/usr/bin/perl
print Hello World! \n;
$a = 3;
print $a \n;
@food = {apples, pears, eels};
I
Rather than APL itself -- value judgement aside --
you might consider its successor and superset,
*J* ( http://www.jsoftware.com/ ).
Miles Fidelman wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
Any other comments/ suggestions regarding programming languages/
systems for advanced applications on Linux?
Should have gone to the list; sorry Lina:
Original Message
Subject: Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications
on Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:35:29 +
From: Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org
To: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com
On 24/12/11 15:43
On 2011-12-24 17:06:38 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
Yep, that's PERL for you. Having taken over the maintenance of a large
PERL project, I've come to the conclusion that it's IMHO the worst
programming language ever invented. Totally non-intuitive.
I completely disagree. It's a very
On 24/12/11 17:34, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2011-12-24 17:06:38 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
Yep, that's PERL for you. Having taken over the maintenance of a large
PERL project, I've come to the conclusion that it's IMHO the worst
programming language ever invented. Totally non-intuitive.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:46:23PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/23/2011 07:57 AM, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
I noted your comments on Python, and while I haven't any
experience with the 2 - 3 transition, I am inclined to prefer
it. In fact, almost all my work is now in
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 06:15:34PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
On 24/12/11 17:34, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2011-12-24 17:06:38 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
Yep, that's PERL for you. Having taken over the maintenance of a large
PERL project, I've come to the conclusion that it's IMHO
On 2011-12-24 18:15:34 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
No doubt it's powerful, and you can do powerful things. The problem is that
the syntax is so ideosyncratic, that I'm so relieved to get someting finally
to do what I need, that I can't be bothered expressing it in a very concise
way.
On 12/24/2011 06:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or want to be; or you could go all the way to
Brainfuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck)
for that matter, Ada, if you're writing mission-critical/safety-critical
systems
If you're
what about D ?
On 24/12/11 21:56, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/24/2011 06:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or want to be; or you could go all the way to
Brainfuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck)
for that matter, Ada, if you're
On 12/24/2011 08:54 AM, lina wrote:
Did not notice the difference between () and {} in tutorial.
Perl is the most complex and subtle programming language/ system I know
(attempt?). For example, see the following Perl script which
demonstrates syntax for accessing single and multiple (slice)
Nah... D is just warmed over C.
Now E, on the other hand, adds significant capabilities for secure
distributed computing based on the object-capability model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28programming_language%29
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
what about D ?
On 24/12/11 21:56, David Christensen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:46:23PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
$ cat /etc/debian_version
6.0.3
$ python --version
Python 2.6.6
On 12/24/2011 10:51 AM, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
My system and Python versions are identical to yours.
Python 3.2.2 seems to be the current stable:
Original Message
Subject: Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on
Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:23:46 -0500
From: tony baldwin tonybald...@gmx.com
To: g62993...@rezozer.net
- Original Message -
From: Jerome BENOIT
Sent: 12/24/11 04:06
On 24/12/11 23:13, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Nah... D is just warmed over C.
may be more than a better C.
Now E, on the other hand, adds significant capabilities for secure distributed
computing based on the object-capability model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28programming_language%29
On 12/24/2011 01:06 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
what about D ?
I'd really like to start using a UML power tool to help me with advanced
applications.
I've used Umbrello, but it hasn't been updated since June 2007 and its
Perl support is thin/ immature. (C++ and Java appear to be the best
On 12/24/2011 02:13 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Now E, on the other hand, adds significant capabilities for secure
distributed computing based on the object-capability model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28programming_language%29
Interesting. But, Go has similar (?) concurrency features and
On 12/24/2011 08:50 AM, PMA wrote:
Rather than APL itself -- value judgement aside --
you might consider its successor and superset,
*J* ( http://www.jsoftware.com/ ).
Interesting. :-)
David
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On 2011-12-24 14:06:20 -0800, David Christensen wrote:
As you can see, there's more than one way to do it (TIMTOWTDI). (And,
probably more than I found.) There are even more ways that appear correct
upon casual coding, but either generate errors/ warnings (lucky you) or have
some subtle bug
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Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Debian Forum comparing J to Brainf*
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:09:31 -0500
From: Marshall Lochbaum mwlochb...@gmail.com
To: Programming forum programm...@jsoftware.com,
peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu
Well, I'm not tired of this stuff
re: Perl
IMHO: The true power of perl comes from cpan. Nothing else comes close
in terms of a huge library of modules that self-assemble pretty easily.
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 02:14:44PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
Someone wrote:
I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the
early years of the language. I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2
compiler for years. Always on Unix machines and never on Windows.
I have become
On 12/23/2011 07:57 AM, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
I noted your comments on Python, and while I haven't any
experience with the 2 - 3 transition, I am inclined to prefer
it. In fact, almost all my work is now in that language. You
can see some examples at my page (below) in the
Someone wrote:
I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the
early years of the language. I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2
compiler for years. Always on Unix machines and never on Windows.
I have become disillusioned with the new C++ that has the kitchen sink
in it. It has become the
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:18:47 +0100,
Wilko Fokken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
These ancient
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 05:33, Tom wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english, people use english words as symbols in their code. there's a
huge difference.
Random webpage I have
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:49:02AM +0100, Johannes Zarl wrote:
Content-Description: signed data
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 05:33, Tom wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english,
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:22AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
now, think of an example in which you encounter anything remotely like
full sentence structure in
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:22AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
now, think of an example in which you encounter anything remotely like
full sentence structure in code, and try to apply
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly suited to
code, since one needs to do some translation to get the sentence into
the form in which a human would say it.
on top of that, i'm arguing that _no_ language
on Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:51:17PM -0800, Tom insinuated:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly
suited to code, since one needs to do some translation to get the
sentence into the form in which a human would
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english, people use english words as symbols in their code. there's a
huge difference.
Random webpage I have open...
GtkTreeStore* gtk_tree_store_new
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess
you'd call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 09:48, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 09:52, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:03:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
But the less formal process, i.e., intuitive mapping without know-
ing what adjectives, adverbs, participles, etc are is less efficient
than having formal knowledge (even if that formal knowledge does not
consist of drawing
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 15:09, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 at 18:59 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together.
the lego-like
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together.
the lego-like
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german
(and lot of other languages) is more
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty -
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:21, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]:
[it] | is | fork
-||--
|| \ \
\a \red
fork is a predicate
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd
call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to being able to
comprehend complex sentences.
I don't know about that. Having a mental map of sentences may be
fundamental
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd
call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to being able to
comprehend complex sentences.
I don't know
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:32:08PM -0700, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]:
[it] | is | fork
-||--
|
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm
passing. I wouldn't have called it fork otherwise.
For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the point.
But, clearly a (normal) fork is either red or
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:46, Tom wrote:
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm
passing. I wouldn't have called it fork otherwise.
For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the point.
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Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
have
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