Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-06 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working, and it's not performing as well as i've expected. Re. the getting version 4.0

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-06 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: Hi, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working,

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:25:56 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: On Jun 4, 2011 2:08 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... I'm still with 3.0.6. my pc is still in 2.5 How brave! :-) Y'all realize this isn't really anything to brag about? Sure, but I don't need the latest

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
Wow... I'm still with 3.0.6. my pc is still in 2.5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimnO3HHNb3KJoF3zFRu6o9C6=u...@mail.gmail.com

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-04 Thread shawn wilson
On Jun 4, 2011 2:08 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... I'm still with 3.0.6. my pc is still in 2.5 Y'all realize this isn't really anything to brag about? I just hope both of you are running noscript or just turn scripting off (preferably the later with browsers that

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/11 at 08:15pm, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: E.g. http://www.ixquick.com/ and http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm can't replace Google for my needs. Have you tried http://duckduckgo.com/ They say they do not track and results are pretty nice. I

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/02/2011 07:31 PM, John Hasler wrote: Arno Schuring writes: I find DDG (http://duckduckgo.com/Duck_Duck_Go) satisfies my needs perfectly. Requires Javascript. Google doesn't. I've been using ever since Google decided to start showing site thumbnails on mouseover events. I've never

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 08:32 +0200, alberto fuentes wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: E.g. http://www.ixquick.com/ and http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm can't replace Google for my

Search engines to replace or to add to Google [was: google to pull support for firefox 3,5]

2011-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 09:38 +0200, Klaus Wolf wrote: Hallo together, it is not new that google or yahoo wants to see the whole world as a glasfish. So for surch the web I use metacrawler like the server of Uni Kassel www.metager.de . whish a nice day to all klaus Thank you Klaus :)

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:15:11 +0200, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working, and it's not performing as well as i've

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Go Linux
wrote: From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net Subject: Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 3:49 AM I've been using ever since Google decided to start showing site thumbnails on mouseover events. I've never seen those

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Go Linux
DuckDuckGo is my first choice but I have found that the results just aren't as good as Google for technical searches. For everyday stuff they're OK. --- On Fri, 6/3/11, alberto fuentes paj...@gmail.com wrote: From: alberto fuentes paj...@gmail.com Subject: Re: google to pull support

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-03 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110602_222757, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 13:21 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:49:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 20:34 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance

google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread tadziu
i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working, and it's not performing as well as i've expected.

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 08:15pm, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working, and it's not performing as well as i've expected.

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's something called graceful degradation and it does force people to buy newer hardware. How green of Google Inc. Reminds me to start migrating away from their products and start treating them as Microsoft's.

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 20:34 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's something called graceful degradation and it does force people to buy newer hardware. How green of Google Inc. Reminds me to start migrating away

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Jun 2, 2011 3:35 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's something called graceful degradation and it does force people to buy newer hardware. How green of Google Inc. Reminds me to start

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 03:56pm, shawn wilson wrote: On Jun 2, 2011 3:35 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's something called graceful degradation and it does force people to buy newer

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 09:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search engine. E.g. http://www.ixquick.com/ and http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm can't replace Google for my needs. Scroogle IS google. So.. not a great

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread tadziu
Perhaps gmail desktop alerts shouldn't work, and you would be advised to upgrade if you wanted them, but gmail as a whole should continue working. ...as should all other google 'apps'... i doubt that. i failed to change google account settings with ff3,5. just got information that my browser

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:06 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/02/11 at 09:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search engine. E.g. http://www.ixquick.com/ and http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm can't

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Jeff Grossman
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:49:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 20:34 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's something called graceful degradation and it does force people

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 10:17pm, tadziu wrote: Perhaps gmail desktop alerts shouldn't work, and you would be advised to upgrade if you wanted them, but gmail as a whole should continue working. ...as should all other google 'apps'... i doubt that. i failed to change google account settings with

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 13:21 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:49:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 20:34 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: If their excuse was lack of standards' compliance maybe it'd kinda make sense. If. There's

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 10:21pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:06 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/02/11 at 09:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search engine. E.g. http://www.ixquick.com/ and

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread tadziu
As I said, it works even in IE5. I just lie and say I'm using a 'supported' browser. the js-free version of gmail is a simple site. implying that i'd like to use gmail in plain html, but i dont. are you shure that i'll preserve my current gmail functionality when i'll use your workaround

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/02/11 at 10:54pm, tadziu wrote: As I said, it works even in IE5. I just lie and say I'm using a 'supported' browser. the js-free version of gmail is a simple site. implying that i'd like to use gmail in plain html, but i dont. are you shure that i'll preserve my current gmail

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Jun 2, 2011 4:54 PM, tadziu tadzi...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, it works even in IE5. I just lie and say I'm using a 'supported' browser. the js-free version of gmail is a simple site. implying that i'd like to use gmail in plain html, but i dont. are you shure that i'll preserve

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread tadziu
I explicitly stated that I use plain HTML. I'm sure none of the fancy javascript crap will keep working, which points out the foolishness of treating a web page like an application. i fully understand your point aswell as atitude towards web apps. but mind two cases: first: (not particular

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Javier Barroso
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:27 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/11 at 08:15pm, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:32 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/02/11 at 10:21pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:06 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/02/11 at 09:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread Arno Schuring
This is almost getting O/T, but anyways... Ralf Mardorf (ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net on 2011-06-02 21:49 +0200): Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search engine. Like you said, it depends on what you use it for. I find DDG

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread John Hasler
Arno Schuring writes: I find DDG (http://duckduckgo.com/Duck_Duck_Go) satisfies my needs perfectly. Requires Javascript. Google doesn't. I've been using ever since Google decided to start showing site thumbnails on mouseover events. I've never seen those. -- John Hasler -- To

Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5

2011-06-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/03/11 at 02:01am, Arno Schuring wrote: This is almost getting O/T, but anyways... Ralf Mardorf (ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net on 2011-06-02 21:49 +0200): Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace Google's search engine. Like you said, it depends on what you use