On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
It seems newer hardware is much more problematic in this sense. I
think MS ovecomes this difficulty by somehow attaching a signature for
each device. I don't have the details, don't know the pros and cons.
On a UEFI box,
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 11:08:50PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:28:01PM +0300, Regid Ichira wrote:
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Am 09.10.2013 19:51, schrieb Regid Ichira:
For me, the enumeration of devices is guaranteeted. As already
For you it is (maybe), under a lot of circumstances it isn't.
Is that so hard to understand.
Michael
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:28:01PM +0300, Regid Ichira wrote:
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de wrote:
On 09/28/2013 04:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I only want to mention that this never happened on my machine within the
last = 10 years and I turn my PC often on and off. How often does it
switch on your machine? Does
On 09/28/2013 04:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 14:41 -0400, Tom H wrote:
[...]
I couldn't care less how many disks you have.
Defaulting to the use of UUIDs isn't some wacky whim but a
well-reasoned technical decision, unless you want to claim to know
more than the
With scsi, the disk address is determined by its physical
connection to the scsi cable.
This is absolutely not correct. SCSI device IDs have always been
programmed at the endpoint device via DIP switches, jumpers, or a dial.
There was one short lived exception to this.
In the late 1990s
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:29:35 +0900 Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
[...]
As I said, more or less, in a reply to Ralf,
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
[...]
As I said, more or less, in a reply to Ralf, can you guarantee that no
other Linux user will have a disk renamed?
If I understand
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 14:49 +0300, Regid Ichira wrote:
Hotplug devices might differ.
A hotplug device _is_ something different.
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:17:40 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:41 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
But the correspondence between these Linux device names and the
hardware device numbers varies widely from boot to boot. I can assure
you of that from personal experience.
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 08:59 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:17:40 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:41 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
But the correspondence between these Linux device names and the
hardware device numbers varies widely from boot to
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 14:41 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:29:35 +0900 Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
[...]
As I said, more or less, in a reply to Ralf, can you guarantee that no
other Linux user will have a disk renamed?
On 09/28/2013 09:27 PM, Regid Ichira wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:29:35 +0900 Joel Rees wrote:
/snip/
Old information. All disks pretend to be SCSI now.
/snip/
I am not familiar with the ATA protocol. Are you saying that the
kernel has no way to know the time on which each disk spined
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 22:33 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 26 September 2013 16:57:34 Regid Ichira wrote:
I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope
people will also pay attention to my previous message in the
thread. At
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable
manner anymore. This device name assignment can change from one
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and therefore the partitions on those devices,
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names,
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
as /dev/sda1,
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:00:14 -0400 (EDT), Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
A lot more software?! Installing initramfs-tools will just pull in
klibc-utils, libklibc, and busybox!
Also, one can limit the size of the initial RAM file system itself by using
modules=dep
in
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:41:54 -0400 (EDT), Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
I couldn't care less how many disks you have.
Defaulting to the use of UUIDs isn't some wacky whim but a
well-reasoned technical decision, unless you want to claim to know
more than the developers putting together
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 14:41 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:41 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
But the correspondence between these Linux device names and the
hardware device numbers varies widely from boot to boot. I can assure
you of that from personal experience.
So my question, if somebody experienced it already is answered.
I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope
people will also pay attention to my previous message in the thread.
At http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01150.html, which,
I hope, this message will be a follow-up to, Stephen Powell wrote
that, in general,
On Thursday 26 September 2013 16:57:34 Regid Ichira wrote:
I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope
people will also pay attention to my previous message in the
thread. At
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01150.html, which, I
hope, this message will be
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:33:40 -0400 (EDT), Lisi Reisz wrote:
You know more than Stephen Powell, but you do not know about
threading?!
Regid,
What Lisi is saying is that changing the subject line of a post does not
start a new thread. You have to remove the In-reply-to: tag from your
e-mail
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:57:34 -0400 (EDT), Regid Ichira wrote:
I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope
people will also pay attention to my previous message in the thread.
At http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01150.html, which,
I hope, this message
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote:
Now, considering that an initrd requires a lot more software, I
think that an initrd should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
A lot more software?! Installing initramfs-tools will just pull in
klibc-utils, libklibc, and
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