Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-19 Thread teddieeb
Curt Howland said: HOWEVER, I run Unstable, by choice. Sid breaks all his toys, so I expect to have problems like this once in a while. -- *in bevis and butthead voice* He He He He He He --TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote: Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too?  (please say no) No. (For Ubuntu, you'll be able to switch from Unity to GNOME Shell. There's also a proposal floating around for a

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Jan 2011, Wolodja Wentland wrote: [snip] I would like to note that it is easily possible to install *any* desktop environment or window manager on Debian (and probably Ubuntu) and that you don't have to use the default one. I typically don't install any tasks when I install a new

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
You need to simply try it out. I don't think Debian will choose Unity instead of Gnome... (I'm personally very positive of this... but that is only my serious belief) anyway, I need to consider carefully abandoning Ubuntu. I'm sure they will keep supporting Gnome. Nevertheless, I stared a long

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work (maybe I'm too skeptical). I sincerely

[OT-where's Gnome going]Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On the 18/01/2011 12:09, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make

Re: [OT-where's Gnome going]Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Didar Hossain
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On the 18/01/2011 12:09, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my experience, it will be tough to avoid

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Curt Howland
Mr. Johnson, good morning. Anyway, I just learned that in the next Ubuntu, they are adopting the Unity Desktop. I did some checking on that and I totally hate it. I understand completely. I've had the same reaction to KDE4. Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Yes. Although the default in Debian

transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Greetings. On several laptops and desktops, I made the transition from Fedora - Ubuntu about 3 years ago. I did that mainly because Fedora updates kept breaking the Nvidia proprietary video drivers and the developers openly said that they didn't really care whether or not their distribution had

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 17 2011 10:09:27 Paul Johnson wrote: 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) I don't think so. 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the kernel headers are

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread T o n g
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:26:52 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: It is totally unsupported and may break everything but every time we've converted a system from Ubuntu to Debian in this way it has worked fine. Most important underlying requirement is the compatibility (e.g. glibc, etc). The convoluted

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Petrus Validus
Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Sure! 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) No. Well...as far as I can see into the future Debian won't be defaulting to it. It might be included in some repo somewhere down the road. If I recall correctly there was a decent

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:09:27 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: (...) Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Yes, why not? :-? 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) I hope not, but I fairly doubt you don't have the chance to use the default GNOME desktop within Ubuntu, maybe

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-01-17 19:09 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: On several laptops and desktops, I made the transition from Fedora - Ubuntu about 3 years ago. I did that mainly because Fedora updates kept breaking the Nvidia proprietary video drivers and the developers openly said that they didn't really

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Sure. You are more than welcome to try and use Debian. 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) Unity has to my knowledge not even been packaged for Debian [4]. Given that Debian

Re: transition from Ubuntu - Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 17 January 2011 12:33:25 T o n g wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:26:52 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: It is totally unsupported and may break everything but every time we've converted a system from Ubuntu to Debian in this way it has worked fine. Most important underlying requirement is