Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-10 Thread Anthony Rowe
*Blush* I sent this to Paul and I meant to send it to the list so I am 
forwarding it.  I should take my own advice and subscribe to the list.  
Sorry for the noise, Paul.

Tony


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On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:55:03AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
 I just tried slrn...two big concerns:  How do you hide read articles
 in the index, 

No idea.  Can one do this with mutt?  You can remove read articles
with 'x' (with slrn) and you can tag, and operate on tagged articles
(like mutt), or toggle collapse/uncollapse_threads (like mutt), but I
can see no way to hide read articles as such.

 and can it use PGP?

Nope.  Good point.  Looks like there is a macro here:

 http://www.thur.de/~Voland/pub/slrn/pgp-stuff.sl

 Contains macros for calling PGP (for checking signatures).
 Idiotically, PGP-2.6* don't returns useful error codes! We must
 wait for Open PGP for this ...

I have not tried it.  But there should be native support for PGP I 
reckon.  There are no bugs about this in the BTS.  I checked.  Should 
I file one?  Would it be wishlist?

Thanks for your support on this list, by the way.

Tony
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Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-06 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:53:21PM -0300, Anthony Rowe wrote:
 I have not tried it.  But there should be native support for PGP I 
 reckon.  There are no bugs about this in the BTS.  I checked.  Should 
 I file one?  Would it be wishlist?

Yes, feature requests like this one would definately be wishlist.

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NNTP to email?

2003-08-04 Thread Chris Kenrick
I'm rather fond of mutt as an email client, and would like to use it to
read Usenet articles too.  I've been using a Python based NNTP
downloader, but it's a bit slow, and doesn't seem to handle
errors/failures very well.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to a good way to achieve this using
Debian (running mostly stable, with a few add ons)?  I'm aware that
there's a NNTP patch for mutt, but thought there is probably an easier
way than a self-built mutt package (then I have to maintain it as mutt
is updated, unless the NNTP patch makes it into mutt proper).

- Chris


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Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-04 Thread Danie Roux
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:58:23PM +1000, Chris Kenrick wrote:
 I'm rather fond of mutt as an email client, and would like to use it to
 read Usenet articles too.  I've been using a Python based NNTP
 downloader, but it's a bit slow, and doesn't seem to handle
 errors/failures very well.
 
Well, slrnpull will download the articles for you, and you can read them
with mutt then.

But I would suggest to go the whole way, and just use slrn for news. I
love mutt for mail myself, but I use slrn for news. Much the same feel
as mutt gives you.

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Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-04 Thread Brian Kimball
Chris Kenrick wrote:

 I'm rather fond of mutt as an email client, and would like to use it to
 read Usenet articles too.

Try mailman.  Create a new list for each newsgroup that you read and
then configure the lists as mail-news gateways.  Subscribe yourself
to the lists.  Viola.  Instant NNTP-via-SMTP.

I did this just last week because I can't stand slrn or any other
newsreader and it worked reasonably well (up until I remembered that
usenet is a gigantic fucking waste of time and purged mailman :-) ).

A few caveats:

1) I'm using unstable.  Stable's mailman might not be able to gate news.
2) Make sure anyone can post to the lists, or mailman will hold all the
   articles for moderator/owner approval
3) see the exhaustive example mailman config file under /usr/share/doc/mailman/
   to see how to store your NNTP server name  password and such.
4) edit /etc/cron.d/mailman to change how often gate_news runs.
   The default is 5 minutes. :-)
5) the gate_news program by default catches up to newsgroups it hasn't
   seen before, so the lists won't see posts prior to the first run of
   gate_news.  If you don't like this then you'll need to _temporarily_
   hack gate_news before its first run (IIRC add something like
   watermark = 0 right after it sets watermark (not sure if that's
   the variable name).  Be prepared for mailman to spend hours
   processing the results.

happy hacking...


brian


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Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 08:29:10AM +0200, Danie Roux wrote:
 But I would suggest to go the whole way, and just use slrn for news. I
 love mutt for mail myself, but I use slrn for news. Much the same feel
 as mutt gives you.

I just tried slrn...two big concerns:  How do you hide read articles
in the index, and can it use PGP?

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Re: NNTP to email?

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Monday 04 Aug 2003 8:04 am, Brian Kimball wrote:
 Chris Kenrick wrote:
  I'm rather fond of mutt as an email client, and would like to use it to
  read Usenet articles too.

 Try mailman.  Create a new list for each newsgroup that you read and
 then configure the lists as mail-news gateways.  Subscribe yourself
 to the lists.  Viola.  Instant NNTP-via-SMTP.


I do this too - it works great - especially as I use kmail and can't stand 
knode.

I go with most of the caveats in the above post - just two more

Careful with mailman - it lets you add the mailing list ID into the subject 
area of each post - careful when posting back to the list, and

Careful with archiving - I discovered that mailman was archiving all the posts 
to the newsgroup - which was great until I realised it was taking up disk 
space and I could see any obvious way to purge the archive.




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