Re: IBM PS/2
On 14 Jun 2002 18:55:58 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You use Sylpheed? Try Reply to Sender. Replies to you! :/ -- Paladin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:21, Paladin wrote: On 14 Jun 2002 18:55:58 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You use Sylpheed? Try Reply to Sender. Replies to you! :/ Oh, well. It was a thought... There's a Sylpheed mailing list and archive. Maybe that will help. -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty: power is ever | | stealing from the many to the few. The manna of popular | | liberty must be gathered each day, or it is rotten... The | | hand entrusted with power becomes, either from human | | depravity or esprit de corps, the necessary enemy of the | | people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in | | office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by | | unintermitted agitation can a people be kept sufficiently | | awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in | | material prosperity... Never look, for an age when the | | people can be quiet and safe. At such times despotism,| | like a shrouding mist, steals over the mirror of Freedom | |Wendell Phillips | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM PS/2
Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2? It seems that hitting del while booting doesn't work... Not possible. If you by older mean models 8xxx (386 and 486 systems) or older, there is no BIOS config utility, you have to install their utility software on a dedicated partition on the boot-enabled partition, and then boot the system from the Diagnostics floppy. Or, i think it is possible to plain boot from the diag floppy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM PS/2
Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2? It seems that hitting del while booting doesn't work... You spamassassin setup is severly warped by the way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM PS/2
Have you read well the screen at boot time? The first screen usually tells how to do this. On some PCs you have to press Del (not your case, it seems), on others Esc and on some others you have to press Ctrl+Alt+Esc at any moment (those are the kinds of PCs I've seen). I've seen this on PCs ranging from 386s so maybe one of these should work for you. Good Luck Ronald Castillo -Original Message- From: Jan Johansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: viernes, 14 de junio de 2002 13:18 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: IBM PS/2 Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2? It seems that hitting del while booting doesn't work... You spamassassin setup is severly warped by the way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM PS/2
I've seen this on PCs ranging from 386s so maybe one of these should work for you. The first PS/2 to have a internal BIOS config utility was the 95XL series. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
Hi, Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2002 13:30 schrieb Ronald Castillo: Have you read well the screen at boot time? The first screen usually tells how to do this. On some PCs you have to press Del (not your case, it seems), on others Esc and on some others you have to press Ctrl+Alt+Esc at any moment (those are the kinds of PCs I've seen). I've seen this on PCs ranging from 386s so maybe one of these should work for you. Good Luck If you got an original IBM 8088 processor there is AFAIK only the possibility to change the setup by DIP-switcheson the mainboard. IBM PS/2 1985 needs a setup-floppy. The Bios EPROM setups are introduced by the IBM-clones Phoenix CTRL+ALT+S or CTRL+ALT+F1 Award CTRL+ALT+ESC or DEL Ami DEL HTH gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote: [somebody else wrote:] Does any one know how to access the BIOS setup of an old IBM PS/2? It seems that hitting del while booting doesn't work... You spamassassin setup is severly warped by the way. Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM PS/2
Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea. Heh. How painful. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
IBM reference disks can be found at the ftp site below. Look at allfiles.txt to find the file you need. It will probably be in the refdisks folder. ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/ KS At 14:04 6/14/2002, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea. Heh. How painful. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2002 14:50 schrieb Jan Johansson: Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea. indeed _not_ a good idea. It might help to convert RE: into Re: by hand? regards gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
indeed _not_ a good idea. It might help to convert RE: into Re: by hand? That i hadnt noticed actually.. Thanks, ill actually try to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
Hi Jan, Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2002 16:02 schrieb Jan Johansson: indeed _not_ a good idea. It might help to convert RE: into Re: by hand? That i hadnt noticed actually.. Thanks, ill actually try to do that. Hmm... It was only a desperate idea :-( sorry gerhard -- www.pegasus.com http://unquietmind.com/email.html http://www.wurd.com/eng/ABCs/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote: | Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert | attributions, | and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually | link together | in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... | | Well, thats what happens when the Mail admin thinks policy-locking | Outlook to his own preferences is a good idea. Outhouses aren't pleasant in the first place. (I think outlook breaks threading regardless, it seems to be a common to find broken threads and outlook in the same message) Do you have cygwin or can you install it on your system? If so you can get a real mailer there (eg mutt). Can you download putty (there is no install procedure for it) and then use a real system? Just some thoughts that might make your environment a bit more comfortable and useful :-). -D -- Microsoft: Windows NT 4.0 now has the same user-interface as Windows 95 Windows 95: Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot Windows NT 4.0: Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ pgppZmC2R4mku.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IBM PS/2
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... In the header of the message I wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message from Pedersen, that was able to follow the thread: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I always thought that this was the correct way of threading! Does this have anything to do with the fact that every time that I reply to some message in the mailing list I have to do a reply-all and delete every address but debian-user@lists.debian.org ?? I would thank any correction on this so that I can bug report it to the mailing list of my MUA. Or this is a exim error!? Sorry anyway :/ -- Paladin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 18:38, Paladin wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I always thought that this was the correct way of threading! Does this have anything to do with the fact that every time that I reply to some message in the mailing list I have to do a reply-all and delete every address but debian-user@lists.debian.org ?? I would thank any correction on this so that I can bug report it to the mailing list of my MUA. Or this is a exim error!? You use Sylpheed? Try Reply to Sender. -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | I have created a government of whirled peas...| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2
On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 12:38:45AM +0100, Paladin wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:40:59 +0100 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mail setup is also rather warped - it doesn't insert attributions, and it keeps starting new threads which I have to manually link together in mutt if I want to follow the conversation ... In the header of the message I wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message from Pedersen, that was able to follow the thread: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was talking to Jan, not you. Sorry for any confusion. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM PS/2 troubles. (And maybe a bit of ranting)
Here's a good place to start for getting the specs on the machine, where to get reference diskettes (which configure the hardware, change bios settings, etc.), and more: http://members.tripod.com/~ps2page/ Also try http://www.co.umist.ac.uk/~ch/psinfo/psinfo.1.toc.html Hope this helps. Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 08:05:39PM -0500, Christian Lavoie wrote: I've got to set up Debian (hamm) on an IBM PS/2 system. It's a 486sx with 16mb of RAM, the bus's a Microchannel (MCA) one and the video chip seems to be a XGA-2 Display Adapter /A (directly on the motherboard). The drive bus is SCSI, and a few other marvels I haven't figured out. I can access a DOS prompt (linux is on /dev/hda5, which is in turn under an extended partition, /dev/hda4). My friend has bought it second-hand so no manuals nor any useful references are available. Here're the questions: - How can I get the max of information from the machine? (Model number or such things) There are no indications on how to reach the BIOS when booting. All I see is a memory test, and tada! it's already on the OS part of booting. - Where can I find useful docs about that? (except the obvious SCSI howto) - The XServer of choice seems to be either SVGA or AGX. Which you'd recommend? Also, the SVGA xserver (haven't yet looked at the AGX) specifies that it's configured for XGA-2 chips on the ISA bus. Is there a workaround to have it work on a MCA bus? - How stable/performing is the 2.1.13x kernel MCA bus code? How much can I rely on that code? - How much of a performance hit can I expect on compilation jobs from a kernel math emulator? - Where in hell can I find a dos-working version of Emacs? The most-recent/used and linux-version-like please. =P Christian Lavoie UIN: 947212 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
At 10:43 PM 4/6/97 -0400, System Account wrote: i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: The mod 80 is a microchannel machine. You probably want to look up the HowTos on installing on one. It's a bit different. Historically, support for MCA has been rather lacking, so don't get your hopes up too much. -- Matt
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, System Account wrote: i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: Don't these things have an MCA bus? And isn't the support for MCA something new in the 2.1 kernel? -douglas
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
Greetings, installing debian on IBM PS/2s can be tricky, more info can be gather at http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca/ or even an IBM PS/2 boot disk at ftp.dcrl.nd.edu/pub/misc/linux good luck let me know your result jd? ++ | Jesus Duran ||_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] || _/ _/_/| | www.iit.edu/~durajes|| _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | |hiphop,debian,programming,life || _/ _/ _/| | Mexica ||_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | ++ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
