Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:25:26PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:58:47PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: It'd have a substantial effect if a supermajority was required: if 60 of 100 people preferred your second preference, and voted Yes/Further Discussion/No, while 40

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:42:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Certainly, you can vote however you like. But be aware that other people might _not_ want to hinder their second preference just because they've got no chance of getting their first preference. If they don't want to put their

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:36:48PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: First note: you don't attempt to distinguish between "this is worth redoing" and "this is not worth redoing", in your "status quo". As I've said, I don't see any benefit in doing it. Whichever's selected, as far as the

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:37:31PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: From A.3(1): ``If Further Discussion wins then the entire resolution procedure is set back to the start of the discussion period.'' From A.3(2): ``If Further Discussion wins then the entire procedure is set back to the start of

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:25:26PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:58:47PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: It'd have a substantial effect if a supermajority was required: if 60 of 100 people preferred your second preference, and voted Yes/Further Discussion/No, while 40

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:42:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Certainly, you can vote however you like. But be aware that other people might _not_ want to hinder their second preference just because they've got no chance of getting their first preference. If they don't want to put their first

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:36:48PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: First note: you don't attempt to distinguish between this is worth redoing and this is not worth redoing, in your status quo. As I've said, I don't see any benefit in doing it. Whichever's selected, as far as the constitution's

Re: Condorcet Voting and Supermajorities (Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5)

2000-12-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:37:31PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: From A.3(1): ``If Further Discussion wins then the entire resolution procedure is set back to the start of the discussion period.'' From A.3(2): ``If Further Discussion wins then the entire procedure is set back to the start of the