On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:45:44AM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
I read in Anthony's mail[0]:
ftpmaster work requires a different set of skills to release management
though, and frankly Joey's already got enough stuff to do, without
worrying about the nuts and bolts of the dak
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 01:03:47PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Are bruckner and voltaire overloaded or do they lack services the developers
need?
The release team has called for a multi-arch implementation to support
powerpc64 userland over the biarch situation. This calls for a machine
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
1. The process is intended as a last resort - what steps would
you take before initiating or supporting it yourself?
I would need to convince myself of two things:
* that the project as a whole
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-09 20:39:20]:
1) You now appear less willing to do so. What has changed?
The GR was intendet to clarify that point.
However, in a small oppinion poll I found that this apparently
was already clear to
Morio Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against
for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in
the project?
Given the number of people in Debian, it seems probable that
Hi,
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 14:42]:
[...]
You reiterate things where Andreas clearly stated that you have
over-interpreted him.
What is the purpose of this? Do you have some personal issues with
Andreas Schuldei? Are you too unhappy that you didn't suceed in last
years
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 14:42]:
[...]
You reiterate things where Andreas clearly stated that you have
over-interpreted him.
No. I reiterate things where Andreas has given misleading answers to
direct questions (he
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 16:25]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 14:42]:
[...]
You reiterate things where Andreas clearly stated that you have
over-interpreted him.
No. I reiterate things where Andreas has
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 05:44:05PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
The first was Chip Salzenburg's request for a key update, subsequent
flaming over lack of responsiveness, and eventual resignation. AIUI,
Chip happened to make the request when James was particularly busy,
including increasingly
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last November, you and the DPL team wanted to propose a GR that would
have forcibly made everyone in a position of authority a formal
delegate, and stated that you had replacements ready if they were
unwilling to comply.
It's been pointed out to me
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:00:22AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from
annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be
removed from the project (key
If you don't want to read the rant, skip to the bottom where I volunteer
to help
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
In the mail to the DPL I mentioned above, James outlined three fairly
significant technical changes that could be implemented to make the
job easier, and could be done
* Ted Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 12:39:51]:
Andreas, as the man in charge of organizing Debconf6, I want to know,
will you continue last years policy of allowing attendees to vote for
which talks and presentations should go in the main track?
Participants never voted on what would
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 13:41:29]:
The GR was intendet to clarify that point.
However, in a small oppinion poll I found that this apparently
was already clear to everyone in the project. A GR would not have
added much value but instead created unnecessary unrest and
Anthony Towns wrote:
More generally, Joey's a member of DSA and as such has root on
security-master.d.o; if he really wanted to he could maintain the dak
install there (or an entirely different system) himself for security
I must not do that. Being a system administrator is not a green light
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:56:57PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
Hi Martin!
Now my question:
1.) Do you think it would be a good idea to handle debian-admin more
openly?
Yes, where possible. I'd like to see more openness everywhere in the
project, but I would understand if _some_
Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Pigs can fly and the Security Team is changing. I like to believe
that the DPL team had a role in that. If it worked so well for
It didn't have.
The changes were underway and in discussion independently.
the security team, why do you think it should be impossible for
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 13:41:29]:
No, that doesn't make sense. Phrasing it like that makes it sound like
the GR was intended to have no effect, but at the time you were willing
to discuss the fact that it may be necessary to
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 15:58:15]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 16:25]:
No. I reiterate things where Andreas has given misleading answers to
direct questions (he repeatedly denies wanting to replace people,
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 15:58:15]:
Ok. Based on what we've discussed on IRC, you'll admit that Andreas
attempted to get at least one person to agree to take responsibility for
elmo's role as lead ftp-master without consulting
Hi Bill. As the packager of ratmenu, I've had to grapple with the
menu package, which you maintain.
Bill, can you tell us the reason you chose to implement your own unique
configuration language for menu? Why did you choose to implement it
in C++ instead of re-using an already existing
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060310 16:58]:
Ok. Based on what we've discussed on IRC, you'll admit that Andreas
attempted to get at least one person to agree to take responsibility for
elmo's role as lead ftp-master without consulting elmo
also sprach Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.10.2250 +0100]:
Pigs can fly and the Security Team is changing. I like to believe
that the DPL team had a role in that. If it worked so well for
It didn't have.
The changes were underway and in discussion independently.
Not trying to
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 11:58:07PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Ted Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.10.2338 +0100]:
I admire you as a developer, but would like to learn how it is you
arrived at the design decisions you did. I'm more of a traditional
Unix programmer myself; C,
martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.10.2250 +0100]:
Pigs can fly and the Security Team is changing. I like to believe
that the DPL team had a role in that. If it worked so well for
It didn't have.
The changes were underway and in discussion
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 22:27:51]:
(How many of last year's DPL team are willing to serve again with you as
DPL?)
I dont know, really. All that I asked would like to be on my DPL
team next term. Those were Steve and Enrico.
I did not ask Joeren for obvious reasons.
also sprach Ted Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.11.0012 +0100]:
How Bill makes technical decisions, and how he fixes his mistakes,
is entirely relevant to his race for the DPL position.
We have a technical committee for technical decisions, and I don't
consider the menu system a mistake. It
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did not ask Joeren for obvious reasons.
What were those obvious reasons? You and Branden stood against each
other despite agreeing to be on each other's team, so I'm curious as to
why the same isn't true this year.
--
Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL
* Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 23:23:52]:
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did not ask Joeren for obvious reasons.
What were those obvious reasons? You and Branden stood against each
other despite agreeing to be on each other's team, so I'm curious as to
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You said:
ITYM wrote. Any voices you heard reading debian-vote to you today
were not mine. If you can't distinguish between me and the voices
you hear reading debian-vote to you, please ask your doctor.
2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's
MJ Ray wrote:
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You said:
ITYM wrote.
Say (said, saying, says):
2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind.
3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out.
b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:58:04PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 01:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Uh, for one thing, [EMAIL PROTECTED] != DPL Team.
Maybe it would have been a good idea then to publicize a point of
contact for your team. You did not, therefore I
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:34:34AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
Changes are currently being implemented to improve the handling of
proposed-updates, in order to have those point releases happing more
Since I'm currently running very low on time it may very well be that I
completely missed
I can't really decide between the original GR and Amendment A.
Amendment B is obviously incoherent, but this strikes a chord:
Consequently when judging whether some license is free or not, one has
to take into account what kind of restrictions are imposed and how
these restrictions fit
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 01:05:06AM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
That is a good
thing since everyone who thinks he can do this alone without
being just a figure head fools himself and the whole Debian
project. Both he and I understood that and can provide a real
choice to the voters.
Do you
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:43:20PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
I must not do that. Being a system administrator is not a green light
for hacking in arbitrary services maintained by another team or
person. This has been a rule for Debian admin for a long time and it
actually grants that
Ted Walther wrote:
If menu is a legacy program written by someone else
It would be documented in debian/changelog.
menu (0.0) unstable; urgency=low
* initial release
-- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:42:09 +0100
Said changelog also documents pretty well how it grew
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Ivan Kohler wrote:
I can't really decide between the original GR and Amendment A.
Amendment B is obviously incoherent, but this strikes a chord:
Consequently when judging whether some license is free or not, one has
to take into account what kind of restrictions are
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