On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:08:28PM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 02:42:26PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
What strikes me as ironic, with these proposals, is that we ran into
something like this problem back in the 90s, back during the initial
adoption of the DFSG, and we
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:32:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
firmware that's not tied to etch's release; Joss's is temporary, tied to
the the development of technical measures that will allow firmware to be
separated; Don's isn't an exception at all, and won't allow us to release
etch on
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I am concerned with including in Debian firmwares whose license
reduce the usefulness of Debian through obnoxious clauses
that would also affect people that do not need the firwmare
in the first place (e.g. by restricting distribution or use of packaging
embedding the
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:49:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:32:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
firmware that's not tied to etch's release; Joss's is temporary, tied to
the the development of technical measures that will allow firmware to be
separated; Don's
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:01:37AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who is confident of this, and why? I'm not confident of this at all; I'm
not sure that the idea of forcing sourceless firmware out of main is even an
idea that the majority of
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:01:37AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
One of the people hinting at this has been Steve, who basically said
to me recently that for some packages, they would get booted from the
release for violating the DFSG, and for other packages, we just wink
and nod.
Now
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:01:37AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Now we have it flat out: Steve thinks perhaps we will simply never
bring the kernel packages into compliance with the DFSG.
I demand that you retract this slanderous remark.
On 9/8/06, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:08:28PM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 02:42:26PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
Perhaps we should start addressing the CD distributor problem (perhaps
tagging CD distributable software, and
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:01:37AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
One of the people hinting at this has been Steve, who basically said
to me recently that for some packages, they would get booted from the
release for violating the DFSG, and for
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:20:43AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On 9/8/06, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:08:28PM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 02:42:26PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
Perhaps we should start addressing the CD distributor
Anthony Towns wrote:
Hi all,
It's been a week, and the results from the three polls concerning what to
do about firmware are currently:
These polls are USELESS.
They all show that people want to release Etch quickly. This can be done
either by shipping stuff in violation of the SC, or by
MJ Ray wrote:
So, the full position statement proposed is:
THE DEBIAN PROJECT:
1. reaffirms its dedication to providing a 100% free system to
our users according to our Social Contract and the DFSG; and
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:11:18AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
Hi all,
It's been a week, and the results from the three polls concerning what to
do about firmware are currently:
These polls are USELESS.
They all show that people want to release Etch quickly. This
posted mailed
Anthony Towns wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:53:50PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
There are people interested. I think us mere mortals have been hindered
by the slowness of the DPL and SPI on these topics.
You might like to consider replying to:
Subject: Re:
Anthony Towns wrote:
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 12:48:35AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Actually, this is what is wrong with the polls at the debian user forums
which AJ pointed people to. Etch can release on time either free (with
less hardware support) or non-free (with more hardware
Diverting to -legal.
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 12:48:35AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
Yeah, that is something which is needed. We need someone to go over
larry's list, which i have copiedto the debian wiki, and find out who
the copyright holder of
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