Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etch release

2006-09-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:47:18AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Some statistics to give an indication (this is based on my local mailbox of d-vote for Aug/Sept for subjects containing source or firmware with only some irrelevant subthreads deleted). In total 465 posts from approximately 80

Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR

2006-09-12 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Apparently, the proposer and the secretary both felt that the form on the ballot was OK -- or do you have a better idea what the proposer of the GR wanted? [...] If only the proposer and secretary need to be happy with the ballot, post

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-09-12 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:16:26AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I asked you this question before privately and haven't seen an answer. You say below So we propose this GR:; does that mean that everything up to that is rationale, and not part of the text that developers will be voting

Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etchrelease

2006-09-12 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 08:59:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is to drop support (in whole or in part) for Broadcom NX2, Sun Cassini(+), Intel PRO/100 (although some of those chips are also supported by the unaffected eepro100 driver), eepro100 is scheduled for removal upstream,

Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etch release

2006-09-12 Thread MJ Ray
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] to the removal from the distribution (main) of software that could be Please, drop the scare quotes on software. [...] i. ensure that the Debian community has a good understanding of the technical and legal issues that prevent the

Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etch release

2006-09-12 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:47:18AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: There are also indications that a significant group of people within the project feels that the current Social Contract does not meet the best interests of the project in that the current

Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etch release

2006-09-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
With this message I formally second Frans Pop's proposed resolution from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposal - Defer discussion about SC and firmware until after the Etch release

2006-09-12 Thread Joey Hess
MJ Ray wrote: Which brings me to a related point: some participants in this discussion have been poor at mentioning vital roles they hold, or making it clear what hat(s) they are wearing. Sorry to break it to people, but 'see shy jo' is not that famous yet that it makes everyone remember 'ah,

sorry

2006-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I want to issue a somewhat blanket apology; I'm trying to get better, but I do so only in fits and starts. In my posts about the controversial etch/drivers/freeness issue, I crossed the line more than once into unhelpful and unreflective posts. I am sorry, and if you were hurt or offended by