Hi,
The following is a draft ballot for comment. The order of the
candidates names was determined by a virtual coin toss.
manoj
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Josselin Mouette writes (Re: Technical committee resolution):
On jeu, 2008-03-27 at 19:06 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
The main symptom of the TC's brokenness is that it is not making
decisions, or not making them fast enough. I haven't heard anyone
suggest that the TC is actually making
Joey Hess writes (Re: Technical committee resolution):
Ian Jackson wrote:
The causes seem to include:
Isn't the main cause that the Technical Committee is well, a committee?
(Recall the old saying about many heads and no brain.)
That seems to be the core reason for all the problems you
Joey Hess writes (Re: Technical committee resolution):
Ian Jackson wrote:
I haven't heard anyone suggest that the TC is actually making wrong
decisions.
Well..
#104101: The TCs resolution that kernel sould have VESA fb compiled in
was ignored by its maintainer, who instead waited
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:06:41PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
The main symptom of the TC's brokenness is that it is not making
decisions, or not making them fast enough.
No, I would argue that a portion of its membership is trying to rush
and make decisions far too quickly.
I haven't heard
Loïc Minier writes (Re: Technical committee resolution):
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008, Ian Jackson wrote:
So I would like to suggest something radical. The decisionmaking
processes of the TC should be taken out of the Constitution. Instead,
the TC and the DPL should decide between them a Charter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 04:38:10PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
iwj: dpkgcvs, webwml
+ ubuntu-various until recently
vorlon: cvs_doc, debian-release, wb-alpha, wb-arm, wb-hppa, wb-i386,
wb-ia64, wb-m68k, wb-mips, wb-ppc, wb-s390, wb-sparc
+ ubuntu-release
Mike
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:38:10 -0400, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
That is a problem. Perhaps the ctte members are overloaded with other
responsibilities.
srivasta: dbnpolicy, debvote, webwml
Not to get in the way of a good rant or anything, the last two
are just because of
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 05:29:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
So, I am secretary, and work on debian technical policy; you
think this is overloaded with too many responsibilities? Any tech ctte
member worth their salt would be involved in Debian beyond maintaining
packages (if
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:57:08 -0400, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 05:29:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
So, I am secretary, and work on debian technical policy; you think
this is overloaded with too many responsibilities? Any tech ctte
member worth their
Hi,
I forgot that some people still can't deal with ë in an
email. Here is a revised ballot.
manoj
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:28:26PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Any tech ctte member worth their salt would be involved in Debian
beyond maintaining packages (if for nothing else to demonstrate they
are qualified to be tech ctte members).
I would think that in a project with 1000
Ian Jackson wrote:
So these two don't seem necessarily to indicate that the decisions
were wrong, just that they were ignored. There has indeed been a
problem with TC decisions being ignored.
The TC is the decision-maker of last resort. So if such an issue is
brought to the TC, a decision is
Clint Adams wrote:
No, I would argue that a portion of its membership is trying to rush
and make decisions far too quickly.
I've never been directly involved in an issue being brought to the TC,
but every time I've seen it considered, or considered doing it myself,
the glacial speed of the TC
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:37:29 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hi, I'm Joey Hess and I decided that Debian's default desktop is
gnome. How was I able to make this decision? DamnifIknow.
As RMS would say on emacs-dev; a decision like this should be
made by polling the suers
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:07:15 +0100, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:28:26PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Any tech ctte member worth their salt would be involved in Debian
beyond maintaining packages (if for nothing else to demonstrate
they are qualified to
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:27:35 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Ian Jackson wrote:
So these two don't seem necessarily to indicate that the decisions
were wrong, just that they were ignored. There has indeed been a
problem with TC decisions being ignored.
The TC is the
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
This does somewhat resonate. But the experiment where we
decided to hand over an issue to one member who took ownership of the
issue did not seem to have resulted in a very different outcome --
perhaps because we ultimately did come back to a vote.
Which
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:37:29 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hi, I'm Joey Hess and I decided that Debian's default desktop is
gnome. How was I able to make this decision? DamnifIknow.
As RMS would say on emacs-dev; a decision like this should
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