Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-03 Thread Ron
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: If an option can't get seconds enough to pass K (or Q), it doesn't have support in the DD population or the proposers are lazy, and don't want to find enough support. In either case, people's time shouldn't be

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2009-01-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 16:59 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: When you say he was asserting a power that was not his, what exactly are you saying? I'm having trouble understanding. It is unquestionably the Secretary's job to prepare the ballot and announce the results; this requires the

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2009-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
[I see that we're now repeating discussions already had up-list, so this will probably be my last post to this subthread.] On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 10:08:47AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Nor is it anything short of absurd for the Secretary to declare that a resolution amends a Foundation

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Waters
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 09:17:28AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: (Don has, after subsequent argument, modified this to “… that you don't plan on ranking above Further Discussion”.) Bad, bad idea! What if you are planning to rank Further Discussion as 1, but staill have a compromise you'd be

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Waters
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:50:21PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es [090101 23:36]: No. In my opinion, an option in the ballot is (should be) a very scarce resource. Like you would in a situation of limited water supply in a boat shared with friends, you

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009, Chris Waters wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 09:17:28AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: (Don has, after subsequent argument, modified this to “… that you don't plan on ranking above Further Discussion”.) Bad, bad idea! What if you are planning to rank Further Discussion as

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009, Chris Waters wrote: Part of the problem is that we never have no, just no on our ballots, so the only alternative is to vote further discussion, even if you have no interest whatsoever in any further discussion, and, as far as you're concerned, the matter is settled. You