Hi Ted,
I'm a little confused on your interpretation of delegation. Consider
the following two examples in which you have appointed tasks to others:
1. In a thread from yesterday in which people were seeking out your
opinions, you appear to delegate someone else (who had not expressed
either
Hi Ted,
Thanks for your answers. Another question regarding delegation:
What sorts of tasks would you plan to delegate? Would you delegate
important decisions, or would you be more interested in delegating
gruntwork?
I ask because the two examples I posted before seems to be of the
gruntwork
You haven't said anything sexist about it, except that it has a clear
purpose.
I have, IMO. I consider discrimination on the basis of sex to be sexism.
i.e., you favour the law of the jungle. Which, may I say, has a fine
history of maintaining artificial imbalances caused by past
[...] Can't blame
people for not seeing cool stuff if it's stuck away in an
obscure backwater mostly unannounced.
Where was there blame? [...]
After krooger wondered about adequate transparency, there was
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00032.html
Well: that was my
I'm glad you mentioned this. An informal group working quietly and
effectively seems to lack accountability and public transparency.
Rightio. So your problems are (i) secrecy, and (ii) lack of accountability.
As for secrecy, I find your objections interesting. The debian-women
project has
would any of you have answered a Request For Comments or Call for
Volunteers from krooger, honestly?
Which, if you are correct, makes it even less appropriate for krooger to
use them in his DPL platform.
/me bravely returns to the topic..
b.
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Considering the circumstances that brought this gr to the table, and the
many options I've been presented with in it for quietly weaseling out of
the consequences of the previous hasty attempt at changing things, I do
have to wonder more than I normally might about the irregularity of
I see. Is that what the Constitution says? If you don't like who
won, then just keep proposing GRs, claiming that not enough people
voted last time? When you lose a vote, raise as big a stink as
possible and have more votes? You really think this is a good
procedure?
FWIW, they _are_
There are essentially two positions here, which appear to be best
represented by options 3 and 6. In summary, these positions are:
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Debian is about releasing software
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Debian is about releasing free software
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Surely this terse (and not exactly unbiased) summary has the same
If you agree with this as I do, then a simple I agree will suffice, sent
in public reply. Then, start doing real work.
If you don't agree, then by all means, waste your's and everyone else's
time, by actually attempting to discuss and disect this email. But those
who really care about
If you agree with this as I do, then a simple I agree will suffice, sent
in public reply. Then, start doing real work.
If you don't agree, then by all means, waste your's and everyone else's
time, by actually attempting to discuss and disect this email. But those
who really care about
We can't be sure whether this orange-haired person likes to eat
babies or not. He probably does, lock him up.
If I have to make a guess then I do, but I don't pretend it's anything
more than a (possibly educated) guess. If you want to promote some
action based on your guess - go ahead. But
We can't be sure whether this orange-haired person likes to eat
babies or not. He probably does, lock him up.
If I have to make a guess then I do, but I don't pretend it's anything
more than a (possibly educated) guess. If you want to promote some
action based on your guess - go ahead. But
I don't think she's flaky or mentally unstable. I think she
approached a concrete group of people by assuming they would fit a
stereotype she had in mind, and that's a bad thing to do.
Please. Her comments are centred around two premises:
1) That debian contains bullying or aggressive
There is a chronic systemic harrassment in Debian, but I have not seen
women get more of it.
I know I've said this some number of times already, but I'll say it again
in just four lines so it's that much harder to miss.
The problem Helen refers to in the most part is not *overt* sexism. The
We should change
the environment because it is bad, not because it's bad to women.
The question to which Helen was initially responding was not why should
we change the environment?. It was why are there so few women in
debian?.
If there are grander reasons for changing the environment then
There is a chronic systemic harrassment in Debian, but I have not seen
women get more of it.
I know I've said this some number of times already, but I'll say it again
in just four lines so it's that much harder to miss.
The problem Helen refers to in the most part is not *overt* sexism. The
We should change
the environment because it is bad, not because it's bad to women.
The question to which Helen was initially responding was not why should
we change the environment?. It was why are there so few women in
debian?.
If there are grander reasons for changing the environment then
Helen said women are likely to be not so confident that their skills
will allow them to survive in an environment like debian, compared to
their male counterparts. And then, her explanation of what that
environment amounted to, was that it was bullying and condescending
to women.
Not
Helen said women are likely to be not so confident that their skills
will allow them to survive in an environment like debian, compared to
their male counterparts. And then, her explanation of what that
environment amounted to, was that it was bullying and condescending
to women.
Not
Ah right, I'll chime in.
But on balance I think even that was pretty mild. I very seldom see
overt hostility towards women in Debian. I think I have seen more
towards gays, and we appear to have more gay and bi male developers than
women of any orientation.
It's possible that it's all
The problem is you are a flake.
$ dict flake
...
4. a person who behaves strangely; a flaky[2] person.
[Colloq.]
[PJC]
...
2: a person with an unusual or odd personality [syn:
{eccentric}, {eccentric person}, {oddball}, {geek}]
...
Your yourself say you
Honestly out of all the flame wars we've had
can you think of any where being a yucky girl was an issue?
I suspect you've missed the point somewhat. AIUI she does not fear that
people will bully her because she's female. She simply fears that
people will bully her (as they bully others, male
I don't honestly give a rats ass about what sexuality a person is, but I get
seriously pissed off when the 'We're a minority, we're special' card gets
pulled.
Whilst I see what you're saying, I fail to see how my post could
possibly be read as pulling the minority card. The quote I gave was
Ah right, I'll chime in.
But on balance I think even that was pretty mild. I very seldom see
overt hostility towards women in Debian. I think I have seen more
towards gays, and we appear to have more gay and bi male developers than
women of any orientation.
It's possible that it's all
The problem is you are a flake.
$ dict flake
...
4. a person who behaves strangely; a flaky[2] person.
[Colloq.]
[PJC]
...
2: a person with an unusual or odd personality [syn:
{eccentric}, {eccentric person}, {oddball}, {geek}]
...
Your yourself say you
Honestly out of all the flame wars we've had
can you think of any where being a yucky girl was an issue?
I suspect you've missed the point somewhat. AIUI she does not fear that
people will bully her because she's female. She simply fears that
people will bully her (as they bully others, male
I don't honestly give a rats ass about what sexuality a person is, but I get
seriously pissed off when the 'We're a minority, we're special' card gets
pulled.
Whilst I see what you're saying, I fail to see how my post could
possibly be read as pulling the minority card. The quote I gave was
action to remove non-free iff
the developer body votes for it. What he promises is a referendum and action
according to the result; how can you get clearer than that?
(Hmmm.. then again, that's what Howard said about the Australian republic..
*grin*)
Ben.
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to remove non-free iff
the developer body votes for it. What he promises is a referendum and action
according to the result; how can you get clearer than that?
(Hmmm.. then again, that's what Howard said about the Australian republic..
*grin*)
Ben.
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