Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-02-02 Thread Roger Leigh
not be doing much for the forseeable future due to the latter until things improve. Thankfully, this has been picked up and dealt with in the last week. Thanks to all involved for their efforts here. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh

Re: De-nomination

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: DFSG4 and combined works

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
certainly couldn't do that with a GFDL manual and GPL source. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
require and uphold the same set of freedoms of both, which obviously includes the ability to modify without restrictions on what is modifiable. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp

Re: GFDL GR, vote please!

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
. Could we draw this debate to some sort of conclusion? I continue to remain unconvinced by the majority of your arguments, many of which are still poorly explained. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian

Re: GFDL GR, vote please!

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:33:05PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the following is an useful test. If the license forbids some modification that is necessary in order to adapt the document to some need

Re: GFDL GR, vote please!

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:41:42PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: I think the following is an useful test. If the license forbids some modification that is necessary in order to adapt the document to some need, then the document is non-free

Re: DFSG4 and combined works

2006-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
and completely uninformative (as was the post you are replying to). There is no explanation at all, so we are non the wiser than had you not posted at all. This is not at all helpful. Thanks for your consideration, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-03 Thread Roger Leigh
the discussion: we have already read the point you were trying to make, so it doesn't need repeating ad nauseam. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-03 Thread Roger Leigh
between retaining them indefinitely without any means of change, and not being able to remove what has become lengthy and/or inaccurate or inappropriate baggage. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Roger Leigh
in the context of DFSG. You aren't free to remove parts you don't want. We wouldn't accept that in source code, and I fail to see why documentation should be any different in this particular respect. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net

Re: Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Leigh
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh I think that this behaviour, as well as that on other lists in the recent past, is making it increasingly necessary that we introduce some way of enforcing a minimum standard of decency on our lists. [...] You pillory[1] a man over his -private

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Leigh
is not a clear one, since they are often one and the same thing, and this has been discussed quite a lot during past discussion. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org

Re: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-30 Thread Roger Leigh
reality when it contradicts your lunatic viewpoint. Craig, None of your commentary above is constructive. If you have a point to make, please do so without the personal abuse. This sort of vitriol only serves to detract from your claims, be they valid or not. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh

Re: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-30 Thread Roger Leigh
(if not all) of the upstream lists I participate upon. You would have liked the vitriolic diatribe Craig mailed to me privately off-list, in response to my request for politeness, even less... Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net

Re: GR Proposal: GFDL statement

2006-01-12 Thread Roger Leigh
. = Cheers, aj - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: Amendment: invariant-less in main (Re: GR Proposal: GFDL statement)

2006-01-12 Thread Roger Leigh
came into being, so people using the licence are likely to be at least peripherally aware of the issues. While it's true that we have tried to get it solved quietly, it's not true to say that we collectively did nothing. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux

Re: GR Proposal: GFDL statement

2006-01-01 Thread Roger Leigh
is not a DFSG-free licence, the consequences are clear. If we do hold a GR over this decision, I won't be voting any differently than I did in either of the above votes; my principles haven't changed since last time I voted. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux

Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-24 Thread Roger Leigh
, myself. Just because people vote in a way that you might not does not mean they are uninformed. I'm not convinced. Happily, the OP still has a chance to change his mind ;-) - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2004

2004-04-10 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2004

2004-04-10 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: First Call for votes: General resolution for the handling of the non-free section

2004-03-12 Thread Roger Leigh
conversation. Just because you consider it to be nothing particularly offensive does not mean that others feel the same way. For the record, I was disgusted by your post. If you have a point to make, make it calmly and rationally. - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: First Call for votes: General resolution for the handling of the non-free section

2004-03-12 Thread Roger Leigh
conversation. Just because you consider it to be nothing particularly offensive does not mean that others feel the same way. For the record, I was disgusted by your post. If you have a point to make, make it calmly and rationally. - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http